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by MulaiAzhagi Mon May 14, 2012 1:30 pm

Is it true the practice of some human beings made to carry the excreta on their heads started in the Muslim rule?

Before the Muslims came, everyone was defecating in the open in India.

Like the Europeans, the Muslims used Chamber pots and they forced the Hindu slaves to clean the pots and carry the $shit.

by Guest Mon May 14, 2012 1:44 pm

MulaiAzhagi wrote:Is it true the practice of some human beings made to carry the excreta on their heads started in the Muslim rule?

Before the Muslims came, everyone was defecating in the open in India.

Like the Europeans, the Muslims used Chamber pots and they forced the Hindu slaves to clean the pots and carry the $shit.

i have no idea about this.

by MulaiAzhagi Mon May 14, 2012 1:54 pm

It seems those Hindus (regardless of whether they were Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas or Sudras) who were forced to carry excreta on their heads were declared as outcastes by the Hindu society.

by Guest Mon May 14, 2012 2:02 pm

MulaiAzhagi wrote:It seems those Hindus (regardless of whether they were Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas or Sudras) who were forced to carry excreta on their heads were declared as outcastes by the Hindu society.

to the best of my knowledge, untouchability precedes the coming of the muslims. i also think that the claim that upper caste hindus were forced to carry excreta on their heads by muslim kings and subsequently declared outcastes by other hindus is a myth with no basis in fact because otherwise we would all have heard about it.

traditionally, the bhangi caste would be responsible for clearing away sewage and excreta.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhangi

Bhangi is an Indian caste or jāti traditionally treated as untouchable,
and was historically restricted to three occupations: cleaning
latrines, sweeping, and scavenging (which sometimes involves handling dead bodies). They prefer to be known as Balmiki.
Pejoratively called "toilet cleaners", as it was their traditional
profession, Bhangis had to carry human waste away in buckets on their
heads. In the traditional Indian caste system, professions were passed
on from parents to children, thus a child born in Bhangi family was
forced into this profession mostly for economic reasons...

Fellow Indian sub-castes even within the lowest Dalit caste such as Dhobi (washer-men) andChamar
(leather workers), are considered socially above the Bhangi. These
upper sub-castes among Dalits would not interact with lower-order
Bhangis, who have been described as "outcasts even among outcasts". Even
though most Bhangis are devout Hindus, some Bhangis have converted to
Christianity in an attempt to escape the social stigma. Examples are the
families of Yuvraj Valmiki, Indian field hockey player,^[1] and of Pakistani cricketer Mohammad Yousuf, who was a Christian before converting to Islam.

Although the Bhangis traditionally have a lower status, there have
been Bhangis that are recognized as Hindu saints. For example, Maharshi
Naval Ram and his successors Daya Ram Maharaj (his son), Ram Baksh
Maharaj and the present-day Badri Ram Maharaj are important Hindu
figures. Saint Umaid Ram Maharaj and his successors Sukaram Maharaj,
Deepa Ram Maharaj and the present-day Mangeshwar Ram Maharaj are
important Hindu figures as well.
In Gujarat, Makarand Paranjape, A.M., PhD when he was researching the Bhangi of the Swadhyaya tradition, a Bhangi member said to him, "I
am a Bhangi, but I also do the work of a Brahmin. A Brahmin is one who
spreads knowledge, sanskars; so I too am a Brahmin. I go on Bhakti
pheris to spread the liberating message of Svadhyaya. So I am a
Bhangi-Brahmin."^[2]
Sanjeev Khudshah is a Bhangi motivational speaker, writer &
sociologist. He wrote a book about scavenger community from India named Safai Kamgar Samuday. This book has been included in Washington University of America for study of scavenger community from India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhangi

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