do you listen to jazz?

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed May 16, 2012 11:03 pm

new poll.

by Guest Thu May 17, 2012 9:17 am

voted - i listen from time to time, it's not my thing though.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 11:10 am

wonder who the person put off by the dissonance is. i used to have this problem when i first started listening. the key then is to go back to big band jazz from the 30s and 40s from the louis "satchmo" armstrong, duke ellington, and sidney bechet era which tends to have straighter melodic lines. easier on indian ears for a start. once you understand how the music and the groove work and the central concept of swing, it's easier to listen to more modern stuff and learn to appreciate it.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 11:13 am

and in the process of discovering big band jazz, you'll also discover how much the bombay cinema wallahs from the 50s and 60s have scammed off american jazzmen.

by Petrichor Thu May 17, 2012 11:16 am

It was me. I totally and fully appreciate the older era Jazz and the 'easy listening' aspect of that with the occasional cymbals and melodic sax.

I have problems appreciating the modern 'cacophonous' renderings. May be its a mindset of what I think *music* should be? In general, I dont have a lot of musicality.

by Impedimenta Thu May 17, 2012 11:18 am

i listen to it from time to time and it is my thing these days only because i am working with a particular musician who has been keeping my interest high. don't know what will happen later. since this was not on your list, i did not vote:-)

phew...

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu May 17, 2012 11:58 am

atcg wrote:It was me. I totally and fully appreciate the older era Jazz and the 'easy listening' aspect of that with the occasional cymbals and melodic sax.

I have problems appreciating the modern 'cacophonous' renderings. May be its a mindset of what I think *music* should be? In general, I dont have a lot of musicality.

big-band jazz: woody herman and his swingin' herd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMWdJpU9t5Q&feature=relmfu

by Maria S Thu May 17, 2012 12:02 pm

I listen to jazz from time to time, and more than listening them to on the radio, I like- live jazz..music festivals, and we have a lot in the South..esp. places like Memphis, where the atmosphere is great to listen to them..I like Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Miles Davis..of course Sarah Vaughn..

Like more upbeat-soft and smooth-jazz singers like the sultry Sade.

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu May 17, 2012 12:48 pm

atcg wrote:It was me. I totally and fully appreciate the older era Jazz and the 'easy listening' aspect of that with the occasional cymbals and melodic sax.

I have problems appreciating the modern 'cacophonous' renderings. May be its a mindset of what I think *music* should be? In general, I dont have a lot of musicality.

melody with a difference. astrud gilberto's bossa-nova-jazz renderings in portuguese and english, an intriguing voice, and fascinating progressions of notes and half-notes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZx-Z3_n4t8&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdDLfp1THTs&feature=related

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 12:55 pm

two giants:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xncznvkB7S8

by Petrichor Thu May 17, 2012 12:57 pm

Thanks for the links...Enjoyed Sade and Astrud.

Maria - Sade sounds like an Rx for a quiet evening of relaxation. Lovely.
VTP - Astrud is awesome...just the right touch of mischief, and quickening pulse of anticipation.

by Bittu Thu May 17, 2012 1:11 pm

I don't listen to jazz because BKJAKS.

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu May 17, 2012 1:20 pm

atcg wrote:astrud... just the right touch of mischief, and quickening pulse of anticipation.

aptly described, atcg!

by Guest Thu May 17, 2012 1:24 pm

Bittu wrote:I don't listen to jazz because BKJAKS.

BKJAKS - Biwi Ko Jazz... ?

by Bittu Thu May 17, 2012 1:25 pm

Bandar Kya Jaane Adrak Ka Swaad

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 1:55 pm

since we seem to be posting old favorites here (enjoyed astrud), here are two of my perennial favorite bechet tunes. bechet was often mournful, but his art was always amazing.

listen to him growl on the sax here playing summertime an old jazz standard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u95xuq65m4

bechet on the clarinet on the next one. love the tremolos. it's an old style of playing which has disappeared from jazz (somewhat analogous to brigas disappearing to a large extent from carnatic music):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBoO0GMadAg

by Petrichor Thu May 17, 2012 2:14 pm

Sidney Bechet (esp. clarinet) is like a glass of fine scotch - loved these pieces.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 2:17 pm

atcg wrote:Sidney Bechet (esp. clarinet) is like a glass of fine scotch - loved these pieces.

scotch and bechet -- my thoughts exactly. perfect analogy in so many ways.

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu May 17, 2012 2:52 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:since we seem to be posting old favorites here (enjoyed astrud), here are two of my perennial favorite bechet tunes. bechet was often mournful, but his art was always amazing.

listen to him growl on the sax here playing summertime an old jazz standard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u95xuq65m4

bechet on the clarinet on the next one. love the tremolos. it's an old style of playing which has disappeared from jazz (somewhat analogous to brigas disappearing to a large extent from carnatic music):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBoO0GMadAg

thanks for bringing bechet to my attention. his is a beautiful version of summertime. i can't say which is more moving - the music or the words. here are the lyrics:

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/g/george_gershwin/summertime.html

and here's janis belting it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzNEgcqWDG4

she was born white.

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu May 17, 2012 2:58 pm

below the lyrics, you'll see interpretations of the lyrics by posters. i found them quite interesting.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 5:30 pm

i've known the lyrics to summertime and the background of the song for a while, but i enjoyed reading about it again. joplin's version is really something. don't think i've seen it before or if i have, i've forgotten about it. it's almost a cliche, but from great pain and struggle often comes beautiful music.

but by far bechet's is my favorite version. he too was a very troubled man and it's like he has melted his entire being into the sax in summertime. i especially love the growls.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 7:24 pm

thought i'll stick this here:
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/18/11821859/sidney-bechet-soprano-sax-king

by Guest Thu May 17, 2012 7:41 pm

by Bittu Thu May 17, 2012 8:54 pm

blab, i'm not a jazz fan but if I ever see you playing a cello that's nestled between your statuesque thighs, I WILL LISTEN.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 9:09 pm

i've listened to that joplin version of summertime so many times in the last couple of hours, it's not funny. such raw vocal power. amazing.

here is a very different vocal version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5igFX6T9x4o&ob=av2n

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 9:30 pm

and miles's cool version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQtAWKQ_M7w&feature=related

very good as miles always is, but doesn't have the gut punch feel of bechet or joplin.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu May 17, 2012 9:40 pm

and another version by the very very beautiful and very very talented norah jones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJOtaWyEzaI&feature=related

her over-trumpeted half sister anoushka shankar has nothing on her.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:41 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:since we seem to be posting old favorites here (enjoyed astrud), here are two of my perennial favorite bechet tunes. bechet was often mournful, but his art was always amazing.

listen to him growl on the sax here playing summertime an old jazz standard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u95xuq65m4

bechet on the clarinet on the next one. love the tremolos. it's an old style of playing which has disappeared from jazz (somewhat analogous to brigas disappearing to a large extent from carnatic music):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBoO0GMadAg

yet another version of summertime:

by Guest Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:27 pm

i listened to all your recos. in this thread. kinda boring. no like. anand mahindra likes jazz. i like anand mahindra. but i no like jazz. i voted the last option. goodbye jazz now onward -- i've tried you.

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