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Strauss-Kahn maid
May have AIDS.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8521881/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-maid-lives-in-apartment-block-for-HIV-sufferers.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8521881/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-maid-lives-in-apartment-block-for-HIV-sufferers.html
indophile- Posts : 4338
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I am beginning to have a lot of respect for this woman now. An uneducated, poor, black widow with AIDs goes against one of the most powerful, white men in the world.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:I am beginning to have a lot of respect for this woman now. An uneducated, poor, black widow with AIDs goes against one of the most powerful, white men in the world.
===> Many people wonder why a man of such power and wealth would resort to this kind of behavior when he could have hired someone through an escort service.
But people do all kinds of crap.
The Feb 28, 2011 edition of the Time magazine carried an article on sex addiction.
It mentione a guy who was heading to airport to pick up his girlfriend. But he was so addicted to sex that he took a detour to redlight district and had a quickie with a prostitute and then went to the airport.
sambarvada- Posts : 585
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====> Here is the link to the article.
For instance, within a half-hour of my first meeting Neil Melinkovich, a 59-year-old life coach, sometime writer and former model who has been in Sex Addicts Anonymous for more than 20 years, he told me about the time in 1987 that he made a quick detour from picking up his girlfriend at the Los Angeles airport so he could purchase a service from a prostitute. Afterward, he noticed what he thought was red lipstick on himself. It turned out to be blood from the woman's mouth. He washed in a gas-station bathroom, met his girlfriend at the airport and then, in the grip of his insatiability, had unprotected sex with her as soon as they got home — in the same bed he said he had used to entertain three other women in the days before.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2050027,00.html#ixzz1N6I1ltkq
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sambarvada wrote:Many people wonder why a man of such power and wealth would resort to this kind of behavior when he could have hired someone through an escort service.
But people do all kinds of crap.
yes. i am also wondering why peoples do kinda crap. having a black woman fellatio you -- when you could have easily picked an escort scandinavian chick. peoples are strange. my conclusion is that the metabolism of some mens is different. last week i had dinner with a friend. i knew he was a womanizer, but his highly attentive attention to the all the femalles (15 to 50) present in the dining hall set my dumbbell ringing. my friend, i later understood, was ready to do crap anytime. his wife is such a sweet woman.
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BittuBoye?
So is this one reason why our BittuBoye is missing from the CH for a long time? :-)
The Absolute Zero- Posts : 655
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The Absolute Zero wrote:So is this one reason why our BittuBoye is missing from the CH for a long time? :-)
unfair..why're you singling out Bittu?
garam_kuta- Posts : 3768
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Hmm! you pay $3000 a night to get services from aids-stricken maid(s)
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
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...may not have been telling the truth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/nyregion/strauss-kahn-case-seen-as-in-jeopardy.html?hp
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/nyregion/strauss-kahn-case-seen-as-in-jeopardy.html?hp
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Hellsangel wrote:...may not have been telling the truth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/nyregion/strauss-kahn-case-seen-as-in-jeopardy.html?hp
There is nothing in the story to suggest she lied about the encounter. Either which way, this story is going to have a sorry ending.
If she did lie about the encounter, it'll only reinforce certain stereotypes abt black women (re: Duke rape case) and create a major sympathy/trust deficit the next time another black woman cries rape.
On the other hand, if she had been truthful, this dragging in of the victim's character and associations reflects very badly on the establishment. It is one thing for the defence to do this - shameful as it is, this is now an established tactic. And entirely another thing for the prosecution to do it.
As for Strauss-Kahn, his career is certainly down the tubes no matter what the outcome. The idiot.
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Interesting. I always had my doubts about his guilt. He will be mighty glad he forgot his cell phone at the hotel. If he had not, he would have been considered a fugitive. If the charges are dropped he will return in triumph to France and may even manage to reclaim his position in his party. There it's still time for the election. If those financial transactions turn out to be murky, the sympathy for him will be even more back home.Hellsangel wrote:...may not have been telling the truth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/nyregion/strauss-kahn-case-seen-as-in-jeopardy.html?hp
charvaka- Posts : 4347
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If the case goes to trial. If not, he can capitalize on the French feeling of a chip on the shoulder when it comes to America and French honor. What does not kill you makes you stronger, sometimes in politics. If he plays this right and keeps his pants on from here on, he may even be able to make this his ticket to the Elysee palace.MD wrote:
As for Strauss-Kahn, his career is certainly down the tubes no matter what the outcome. The idiot.
charvaka- Posts : 4347
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Hellsangel wrote:...may not have been telling the truth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/nyregion/strauss-kahn-case-seen-as-in-jeopardy.html?hp
This could indeed result in an amazing turn of fortune for Strauss-Kahn.
Another compelling story of sexual assault where the accused was eventually acquitted:
Part 1 - http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-accused-20110626,0,7042051.story
Part 2 - http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-accused-20110628,0,4711694,full.story
When it comes to women accusing men, people are all too ready to believe the worst. A lot of women take advantage of that. We have to be more discerning and careful.
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He's missed the bus in the current Socialist primaries. And with many more women - including French ones - coming out and telling their stories of molestation attempts and coercive sex, he's not going to get a Socialist Party ticket any time soon.
The higher moral ground they have taken as a counterpoint to the rather colorful Sarkozy-Bruni lifestyle would be lost if they make a womanizer of SK's disrepute their presidential candidate.
The higher moral ground they have taken as a counterpoint to the rather colorful Sarkozy-Bruni lifestyle would be lost if they make a womanizer of SK's disrepute their presidential candidate.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
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DSK supporters are already talking about a political comeback. They are even talking about him registering as a candidate in the presidential primaries of the Socialist party. A quick look at opinions in the French press suggests to me that it is still possible -- but very difficult -- for him to pull that off.
The timeline of his full freedom is the primary determinant of what he can or can't do politically. If all charges are dropped and he can go home later this month, then he may have some options. If some charges are pressed and he needs to stand trial, then he can forget about the elections.
The deadline for filing his nomination is July 13; he can use his influence in the party to get that moved to late July or early August. He has his day in court on July 18.
Here is a list of possibilities from Le Parisien... http://www.leparisien.fr/flash-actualite-politique/l-avenir-politique-de-dominique-strauss-kahn-les-differentes-hypotheses-01-07-2011-1517093.php
The timeline of his full freedom is the primary determinant of what he can or can't do politically. If all charges are dropped and he can go home later this month, then he may have some options. If some charges are pressed and he needs to stand trial, then he can forget about the elections.
The deadline for filing his nomination is July 13; he can use his influence in the party to get that moved to late July or early August. He has his day in court on July 18.
Here is a list of possibilities from Le Parisien... http://www.leparisien.fr/flash-actualite-politique/l-avenir-politique-de-dominique-strauss-kahn-les-differentes-hypotheses-01-07-2011-1517093.php
charvaka- Posts : 4347
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Kahn should be disqualified for his inability to use his judgement. Leaders who can't keep their pants on should be pushed aside not for their morals but for their poor judgement. The world is facing too many problems for these kind of distractions.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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truthbetold wrote:Kahn should be disqualified for his inability to use his judgement. Leaders who can't keep their pants on should be pushed aside not for their morals but for their poor judgement. The world is facing too many problems for these kind of distractions.
Historically, the option of not keeping pants on has been a perk that great leaders have enjoyed. History, Biology and Anthropology all show that leading and not keeping the pants on go hand-in-hand (no pun intended!). Why or how is it that, in the modern world, people are considered unqualified to lead if they are not able to keep their pants on? For argument's sake, if we assume that all the sex he has had through his life has been consensual and his wife has been okay with it, why or how would Strauss-Kahn make a bad French president?
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SomeProfile wrote:For argument's sake, if we assume that all the sex he has had through his life has been consensual and his wife has been okay with it, why or how would Strauss-Kahn make a bad French president?
Well, coming from someone who's lost all faith in humanity several times over, that's an enormously huge assumption to make, given all the other allegations made after the maid episode.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
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Merlot Daruwala wrote:SomeProfile wrote:For argument's sake, if we assume that all the sex he has had through his life has been consensual and his wife has been okay with it, why or how would Strauss-Kahn make a bad French president?
Well, coming from someone who's lost all faith in humanity several times over, that's an enormously huge assumption to make, given all the other allegations made after the maid episode.
Huge assumption or medium assumption is irrelevant. My faith in humanity is also irrelevant to the question. In fact, Strauss-Kahn himself is irrelevant. My question is more generic than that. If someone has had multiple consensual sexual partners serially or simultaneously, and none of those partners had any objections, does that lifestyle have any positive or negative bearing on their ability to be a good leader?
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Thanks for clarifying. For a second, I thought you were actually posting something relevant to the thread.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
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Some Profile wrote:
" the option of not keeping pants on has been a perk that great leaders have enjoyed."
Yes. In recent times, Bill clinton is an example of compartmentalized mind and his presidency can be considered a success.
While history shows that sex is a perk that comes with all kinds of power, civil society is slowly taking away those powers. Old men caught with young children, bosses demanding sex with subordinates are all sent to big House.
While legally misuse of the power is the cause of punishment, common wisdom is that public figures are better off in the modern world of TVs, investigative journalism, internet, and self propelling prosecutors , not to indulge in such activities. Public redicule is not an image enhancement feature for any politician. So high end politicians are expected to be careful and keep their pants on while running for offices and during their stay in office.
It is that common wisdom that Kahn could not follow. Can he do the job despite philandering? While all things are interrelated, many of these smart leaders are trained to compartmentalize issues. This issue by itself cannot determine his ability to run France but in my opinion it shows his inability to use his judgement that shows future problems. Jennifer flowers was an indicator to Monica lewinsky.
" the option of not keeping pants on has been a perk that great leaders have enjoyed."
Yes. In recent times, Bill clinton is an example of compartmentalized mind and his presidency can be considered a success.
While history shows that sex is a perk that comes with all kinds of power, civil society is slowly taking away those powers. Old men caught with young children, bosses demanding sex with subordinates are all sent to big House.
While legally misuse of the power is the cause of punishment, common wisdom is that public figures are better off in the modern world of TVs, investigative journalism, internet, and self propelling prosecutors , not to indulge in such activities. Public redicule is not an image enhancement feature for any politician. So high end politicians are expected to be careful and keep their pants on while running for offices and during their stay in office.
It is that common wisdom that Kahn could not follow. Can he do the job despite philandering? While all things are interrelated, many of these smart leaders are trained to compartmentalize issues. This issue by itself cannot determine his ability to run France but in my opinion it shows his inability to use his judgement that shows future problems. Jennifer flowers was an indicator to Monica lewinsky.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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Merlot Daruwala wrote:Thanks for clarifying. For a second, I thought you were actually posting something relevant to the thread.
You are most welcome, sir. I am always glad to clarify that not everything you think is right.
SomeProfile- Posts : 1863
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The saga continues...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8643630/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-had-sex-binge-in-New-York-before-alleged-assault.html
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the former head of the International
Monetary Fund, allegedly told his wife he had sex with three women in
New York in the hours leading to his arrest on attempted rape charges,
it has been reported.
The former frontrunner to be France's next president was reported to have made
the startling confession to his wife, Anne Sinclair, in a bid to convince
her that he had not raped a hotel maid in a Manhattan on Saturday, May 14.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8643630/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-had-sex-binge-in-New-York-before-alleged-assault.html
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the former head of the International
Monetary Fund, allegedly told his wife he had sex with three women in
New York in the hours leading to his arrest on attempted rape charges,
it has been reported.
The former frontrunner to be France's next president was reported to have made
the startling confession to his wife, Anne Sinclair, in a bid to convince
her that he had not raped a hotel maid in a Manhattan on Saturday, May 14.
charvaka- Posts : 4347
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charvaka wrote:The saga continues...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8643630/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-had-sex-binge-in-New-York-before-alleged-assault.html
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the former head of the International
Monetary Fund, allegedly told his wife he had sex with three women in
New York in the hours leading to his arrest on attempted rape charges,
it has been reported.
The former frontrunner to be France's next president was reported to have made
the startling confession to his wife, Anne Sinclair, in a bid to convince
her that he had not raped a hotel maid in a Manhattan on Saturday, May 14.
===> This a$$hole is a Ph.D Economist.
There could be Ph.D scientists and mathematcians who could engage in the same kind of behavior.
Why put them on a pedestal?
sambarvada- Posts : 585
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sambarvada wrote:
===> This a$$hole is a Ph.D Economist.
There could be Ph.D scientists and mathematcians who could engage in the same kind of behavior.
Why put them on a pedestal?
Sex is an independent variable in a person's character function.
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Good point. We should launch a thorough investigation whether all Ph.D scientists and mathematcians committed rapes.sambarvada wrote:===> This a$$hole is a Ph.D Economist.
There could be Ph.D scientists and mathematcians who could engage in the same kind of behavior.
Why put them on a pedestal?
charvaka- Posts : 4347
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how does one go about acquiring a wife like ms.sinclair?
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
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===>Why do you ask?MaxEntropy_Man wrote:how does one go about acquiring a wife like ms.sinclair?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Hellsangel wrote:===>Why do you ask?MaxEntropy_Man wrote:how does one go about acquiring a wife like ms.sinclair?
it seems you forgot that Il Professore is also a Ph.D.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/us-strausskahn-maid-idUSTRE76N31020110724
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14619921
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Looks like DSK is preparing to return to politics... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/22/dominique-strauss-kahn-return-politics
charvaka- Posts : 4347
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The drama is all over now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/nyregion/charges-against-strauss-kahn-dismissed.html
Now the real story begins -- how this shakes out in France. I expect conspiracy theories linking the rape charges to Sarkozy et al.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/nyregion/charges-against-strauss-kahn-dismissed.html
Now the real story begins -- how this shakes out in France. I expect conspiracy theories linking the rape charges to Sarkozy et al.
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