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TN and Cauvery
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:31 pm
....it is very clear that karnataka - irrespective of any SC/Govt/Tribunal award - will not release a drop of water to TN until ALL its reservoirs are full. Duhhhh..once the dams are full, it has to release the excess water order or no order. So, TN is used only as drainage by Karnataka.
It is an utter insult, resulting in agricultural, industrial losses which affect the whole of India.
What can TN do to Karnataka tit-for tat or blackmail?
Can they stop all power to Bangalore from NLC, Kalpakkam and Kundah-Pykara?
Can it block goods train from bangalore and prevent its use of Madras Port? (they are welcome to use Mangalore for all its uses).
What else can it do ?
KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
It is an utter insult, resulting in agricultural, industrial losses which affect the whole of India.
What can TN do to Karnataka tit-for tat or blackmail?
Can they stop all power to Bangalore from NLC, Kalpakkam and Kundah-Pykara?
Can it block goods train from bangalore and prevent its use of Madras Port? (they are welcome to use Mangalore for all its uses).
What else can it do ?
KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:16 pm
<< KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
World may not do it but our TAF will launch Operation Karikalan
World may not do it but our TAF will launch Operation Karikalan
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:19 pm
>> KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
In 1991, when Kannadiga criminals were raping, torturing and murdering Karnataka Tamils, there was a scare that Commander may order an attack key targets in Karnataka in retalliation. Special police protection was placed. That's how scared were they of LTTE.
In 1991, when Kannadiga criminals were raping, torturing and murdering Karnataka Tamils, there was a scare that Commander may order an attack key targets in Karnataka in retalliation. Special police protection was placed. That's how scared were they of LTTE.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:22 pm
<< KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
World Bank and other organizations would refuse to deal with Karnataka. That would force Karnataka to release water. Now we cannot even stop electricity from Neyveli. Hindian gov refuses to stop it.
Back in the 1990s some nationalists damaged a transmission tower going to Karnataka. It was just token. It was immediately repaired.
World Bank and other organizations would refuse to deal with Karnataka. That would force Karnataka to release water. Now we cannot even stop electricity from Neyveli. Hindian gov refuses to stop it.
Back in the 1990s some nationalists damaged a transmission tower going to Karnataka. It was just token. It was immediately repaired.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:25 pm
Cauvery Water Dispute and Tamilnadu Independence
http://www.tamiltribune.com/04/1201.html
Cauvery River Water Dispute and Karnataka Massacres: Part 1
http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/0201.html
Cauvery River Water Dispute and Karnataka Massacres: Part 2
http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/0301.html
http://www.tamiltribune.com/04/1201.html
Cauvery River Water Dispute and Karnataka Massacres: Part 1
http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/0201.html
Cauvery River Water Dispute and Karnataka Massacres: Part 2
http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/0301.html
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:47 pm
Kayalvizhi wrote:>> KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
In 1991, when Kannadiga criminals were raping, torturing and murdering Karnataka Tamils, there was a scare that Commander may order an attack key targets in Karnataka in retalliation. Special police protection was placed. That's how scared were they of LTTE.
Did Karnataka release Cauvery waters fearing your "King of Killers"?
How much money world bank and other international organizations provide Karnataka ?
When the World bank could not force SL to stop killing Ealam tamilians, how can it force India to let water to TN (remember karnataka is part of Hindia even if TN got independence).
Please enlighten us how many countries has the World bank forced to change their behavior.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:55 pm
>> Please enlighten us how many countries has the World bank forced to change their behavior.
No need to force. The potential threat means compliance. Why do you think Hindi gives water to Pak?
No need to force. The potential threat means compliance. Why do you think Hindi gives water to Pak?
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Guest Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:14 am
hey dumbo, don't just parrot what nalankillikilli says all the time. use your brain on occasions or use google if you don't have one. india gives too much water to pak. and b'desh. the treaties were lopsided and we had not envisaged that we would end up being a water deficient nation. india will renege in time -- UN and world bank can do jackshit. we already reneged with b'desh with the farakka dam. UN intervention could not pressurize us to reduce withdrawal of water and the issue still remains unresolved. it is pretty much law of the jungle in these matters. your independent TN will have to import icebergs.Kayalvizhi wrote:
No need to force. The potential threat means compliance. Why do you think Hindi gives water to Pak?
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:26 am
The Ganga Treaty between India and Bangladesh could be a model for the treaty between India and independent Tamil Nadu. The Ganga Treaty specifies a formula for how much water should flow from India to Bangladesh; it even specifies the amount of water Bangladesh should receive in distress years (dry years). India has honored that agreement even during distress years.
Presently Karnataka State Government refuses to implement fully Cauvery Water Disputes Tribunal's interim orders and Indian Supreme Court decisions. Will it honor the terms of a treaty signed by the Indian Government?
Presently Karnataka State Government does refuse to implement fully Cauvery Water Disputes Tribunal's interim orders and Indian Supreme Court decisions. Today, Karnataka's refusal is an internal matter (inter-state dispute) and so Indian Government does not bother to force Karnataka to send the water to Tamil Nadu. It would be an entirely different scenario if India signs a treaty with independent Tamil Nadu. That would be an international obligation of the Indian Government to an independent country and so Indian Government would do whatever is necessary to make sure the terms of the treaty are fulfilled.
above excerpts from
Cauvery Water Dispute and Tamilnadu Independence
http://www.tamiltribune.com/04/1201.html
Presently Karnataka State Government refuses to implement fully Cauvery Water Disputes Tribunal's interim orders and Indian Supreme Court decisions. Will it honor the terms of a treaty signed by the Indian Government?
Presently Karnataka State Government does refuse to implement fully Cauvery Water Disputes Tribunal's interim orders and Indian Supreme Court decisions. Today, Karnataka's refusal is an internal matter (inter-state dispute) and so Indian Government does not bother to force Karnataka to send the water to Tamil Nadu. It would be an entirely different scenario if India signs a treaty with independent Tamil Nadu. That would be an international obligation of the Indian Government to an independent country and so Indian Government would do whatever is necessary to make sure the terms of the treaty are fulfilled.
above excerpts from
Cauvery Water Dispute and Tamilnadu Independence
http://www.tamiltribune.com/04/1201.html
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:30 am
Kayalvizhi wrote:>> Please enlighten us how many countries has the World bank forced to change their behavior.
No need to force. The potential threat means compliance. Why do you think Hindi gives water to Pak?
Ok...Hindia is weak and coward.
Why did Pirabhakaran fail in his threats to SL and why did the World fail in its attempt force SL to give freedom to Ealam?
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Guest Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:39 am
the ganga treaty and indus treaty were shortsighted treaties from the indian perspective: we've been TOO generous (esp. with pak.). you can forget karnataka (read india) signing any reasonable treaty (namely in TN's best interests) with an independent TN.Kayalvizhi wrote: The Ganga Treaty specifies a formula for how much water should flow from India to Bangladesh; it even specifies the amount of water Bangladesh should receive in distress years (dry years). India has honored that agreement even during distress years.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:31 am
"Even under the worst of situations after Tamil Nadu independence, Tamil Nadu's situation with regard to Cauvery water would not the worse than the current situation as part of India".
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Guest Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:38 am
it would certainly be better. TN would not need the union's permission to waste precious foreign exchange on the import of icebergs.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:43 am
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:it would certainly be better. TN would not need the union's permission to waste precious foreign exchange on the import of icebergs.
I think KV willlead the TAF (Tamil Air Force of 2 Cessna single engine Phut-Phut-Phut "aircraft" ) and occupy the whole of Antarctica. His Tamil Naval Force will drag icebergs and "somehow" melt them in Stanley reservoir.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kris Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:39 am
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Kayalvizhi wrote:>> KV: we know what you will say...if the world cannot force SL to investigate the Tamil massacre, it cannot force Karnatak to give water to an independent TN. so forget it.
In 1991, when Kannadiga criminals were raping, torturing and murdering Karnataka Tamils, there was a scare that Commander may order an attack key targets in Karnataka in retalliation. Special police protection was placed. That's how scared were they of LTTE.
Did Karnataka release Cauvery waters fearing your "King of Killers"?
How much money world bank and other international organizations provide Karnataka ?
When the World bank could not force SL to stop killing Ealam tamilians, how can it force India to let water to TN (remember karnataka is part of Hindia even if TN got independence).
Please enlighten us how many countries has the World bank forced to change their behavior.
>>>>That's only because that other powerful body, the UN, didn't weigh in.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:53 am
>>When the World bank could not force SL to stop killing Ealam tamilians, how can it force India to let water to TN (remember karnataka is part of
Hindia even if TN got independence).
Reason is Hindia. Until Hindia is eliminated as a large country with some econ and military power, Tamil people arounbd the world cannot get justice.
Actually in 2009-2010, US wanted to block World Bank from giving money to Lanka. Hindia campaigned for Lanka (as it did in UN Human Rights
Council also). When our Sec of State Hillary Clinton visited India, PM talked to her about it. Still US pursued. Then India said that if World Bank cut off funds it would provide 2 billion dollars low interest loan. Seeing nothing will happen, US abstained from voting at World Bank.
There is going to be discussion on Lanka at UN Human Rights Council in Nov 2012. Hindia is already telling Lanka openly how to prevent a vote against it.
Hindia is behind all evils to Tamils.
Hindia even if TN got independence).
Reason is Hindia. Until Hindia is eliminated as a large country with some econ and military power, Tamil people arounbd the world cannot get justice.
Actually in 2009-2010, US wanted to block World Bank from giving money to Lanka. Hindia campaigned for Lanka (as it did in UN Human Rights
Council also). When our Sec of State Hillary Clinton visited India, PM talked to her about it. Still US pursued. Then India said that if World Bank cut off funds it would provide 2 billion dollars low interest loan. Seeing nothing will happen, US abstained from voting at World Bank.
There is going to be discussion on Lanka at UN Human Rights Council in Nov 2012. Hindia is already telling Lanka openly how to prevent a vote against it.
Hindia is behind all evils to Tamils.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Guest Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:04 am
Kayalvizhi wrote:>>When the World bank could not force SL to stop killing Ealam tamilians, how can it force India to let water to TN (remember karnataka is part of
Hindia even if TN got independence).
Reason is Hindia. Until Hindia is eliminated as a large country with some econ and military power, Tamil people arounbd the world cannot get justice.
Actually in 2009-2010, US wanted to block World Bank from giving money to Lanka. Hindia campaigned for Lanka (as it did in UN Human Rights
Council also). When our Sec of State Hillary Clinton visited India, PM talked to her about it. Still US pursued. Then India said that if World Bank cut off funds it would provide 2 billion dollars low interest loan. Seeing nothing will happen, US abstained from voting at World Bank.
There is going to be discussion on Lanka at UN Human Rights Council in Nov 2012. Hindia is already telling Lanka openly how to prevent a vote against it.
Hindia is behind all evils to Tamils.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:09 am
Kayalvizhi wrote:>>When the World bank could not force SL to stop killing Ealam tamilians, how can it force India to let water to TN (remember karnataka is part of
Hindia even if TN got independence).
Reason is Hindia. Until Hindia is eliminated as a large country with some econ and military power, Tamil people arounbd the world cannot get justice.
Actually in 2009-2010, US wanted to block World Bank from giving money to Lanka. Hindia campaigned for Lanka (as it did in UN Human Rights
Council also). When our Sec of State Hillary Clinton visited India, PM talked to her about it. Still US pursued. Then India said that if World Bank cut off funds it would provide 2 billion dollars low interest loan. Seeing nothing will happen, US abstained from voting at World Bank.
There is going to be discussion on Lanka at UN Human Rights Council in Nov 2012. Hindia is already telling Lanka openly how to prevent a vote against it.
Hindia is behind all evils to Tamils.
Hahahaha...so are you saying that US Govt, UN, WB will not be able to cut off funds to karnataka bcz India (which Ironically includes Karnataka) will blackmail the world organization?
Aren't you contradicting yourself regarding world Bank projects in Karnataka if TN became independent.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Kayalvizhi Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:56 am
<< are you saying that US Govt, UN, WB will not be able to cut off funds to karnataka bcz India (which Ironically includes Karnataka) will blackmail the world organization?
Aren't you contradicting yourself regarding world Bank projects in Karnataka if TN became independent.
Think. If TN is indep means Hindia is defeated nation. No body listen to it.
Aren't you contradicting yourself regarding world Bank projects in Karnataka if TN became independent.
Think. If TN is indep means Hindia is defeated nation. No body listen to it.
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Re: TN and Cauvery
by Guest Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:06 am
Kayalvizhi wrote:Think. If TN is indep means Hindia is defeated nation. No body listen to it.
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