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Gadhimai mela---how Nepali hindus preserve their manliness
The gurkhas of nepal are some of the most feared hindu soldiers in the world and are welcomed in both the british and indian armies . Read this link and see photos to see how they preserve their manliness by animal sacrifice---
http://blog.knowledge-must.com/archives/29-Gadhimai-Mela-The-Largest-Sacrifice.html
http://blog.knowledge-must.com/archives/29-Gadhimai-Mela-The-Largest-Sacrifice.html
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'it is not right to make one's stomach the graveyard of animals'
--Mughal Emperor Akbar, as quoted in the Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl. Akbar is here arguing for vegetarianism.
--Mughal Emperor Akbar, as quoted in the Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl. Akbar is here arguing for vegetarianism.
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Rashmun wrote:'it is not right to make one's stomach the graveyard of animals'
--Mughal Emperor Akbar, as quoted in the Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl. Akbar is here arguing for vegetarianism.
who cares what akbar says , here the goddess gadhimai and her sister kali demand the blood and flesh of goats in order to strengthen themselves for fighting the asuras who threaten the hindu religion .
we must fulfill what the goddess demands---for she will protect us , not akbar whose greatgrandson aurangzeb proved to be a hinduhater anyway . so however secular and tolerant these muslims are , their progeny is bound to be fanatic anyway.
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ashdoc wrote:Rashmun wrote:'it is not right to make one's stomach the graveyard of animals'
--Mughal Emperor Akbar, as quoted in the Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl. Akbar is here arguing for vegetarianism.
who cares what akbar says , here the goddess gadhimai and her sister kali demand the blood and flesh of goats in order to strengthen themselves for fighting the asuras who threaten the hindu religion .
we must fulfill what the goddess demands---for she will protect us , not akbar whose greatgrandson aurangzeb proved to be a hinduhater anyway . so however secular and tolerant these muslims are , their progeny is bound to be fanatic anyway.
the mughal kingdom was stronger when Akbar was alive; it became weak when Aurangzeb was around. furthermore, Akbar was renowned for having great physical strength. for instance, he punched Adham Khan on his face knocking him unconscious (after Adham had murdered Atkah Khan).
Also, Akbar's son Jahangir--who was the next mughal emperor--was born of a Rajput mother. Further, Jahangir's son Shah Jahan, who was the mughal emperor after Jahangir, was also born of a Rajput mother. In other words, Shah Jahan was three quarters Rajput.
The offering of blood to the Goddess is a demand of cheap Tantriks in my opinion. It has nothing to do with Hinduism.
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Rashmun wrote:
The offering of blood to the Goddess is a demand of cheap Tantriks in my opinion. It has nothing to do with Hinduism.
it increases manliness anyway . and it is an ancient ritual---has been going on for thousands of years .
of course , the secular rashmunullah is not going to call the muslims ' cheap ' for killing goats on bakri-eid is he LOL
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ashdoc wrote:Rashmun wrote:'it is not right to make one's stomach the graveyard of animals'
--Mughal Emperor Akbar, as quoted in the Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl. Akbar is here arguing for vegetarianism.
who cares what akbar says , here the goddess gadhimai and her sister kali demand the blood and flesh of goats in order to strengthen themselves for fighting the asuras who threaten the hindu religion .
we must fulfill what the goddess demands---for she will protect us , not akbar whose greatgrandson aurangzeb proved to be a hinduhater anyway . so however secular and tolerant these muslims are , their progeny is bound to be fanatic anyway.
KARNATAKA: HUMAN SACRIFICE
Deathly Altar Of Tatu Ajja
Was Basavaraja’s death plain murder or a gruesome enactment of a tantric ritual?
SUGATA SRINIVASARAJU
In the last decade, instances of human or child sacrifice have been reported from the remote areas of Uttar Pradesh, Orissa, Bihar, Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh
Tantrik help is sought to correct perceived defects in a newly built house, to cure an ailment or nightmares, to get rid of ghosts and evil spirits, to propitiate gods, to gain power or disable opponents etc.
In Dec 2010, tantrik Kamalaksha Purusha sacrificed the 3-yr-old daughter of Bihari labourers who were tenants in his brother’s house in Yeyyadi, Mangalore, Karnataka.
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On either side of the serpentine road leading to the village of Tirumaladevara Koppa, cotton shrubs stand on pitch dark soil. The bolls clouding up at the edge of the stalks appear almost ready for harvest. One wonders if it was cotton plucked from these fields in an earlier season that was found stuffed in the mouth of Basavaraja Kademani on that gory night after amavasya in November 2011, when a medieval tantric ritual of ‘human sacrifice’ is said to have unfolded in the village that falls in the Ranebennur taluk of Haveri district.
Although it has been a little over three months since Basavaraja, who was from the Dalit Madiga community, was found dead, his unlettered parents Bharmappa and Manjavva are fighting the obstinate local administration to convince them that their son was indeed ritually sacrificed by their upper-caste landlord of 15 years. They allege that Basavanagouda Gouda, around 65, got Nijalingaswamy alias Tatu Ajja, a tantrik, to perform the ghastly ritual to “correct vaastu problems” plaguing his newly built house. The tantrik had drawn their son’s blood and sprinkled it in and around the house to exorcise the imagined evil.
“The amavasya night is terrible. The dark soil of the fields melds with the dark sky. My son was consumed by that darkness.”Manjavva Kademani, Basavaraja’s Mother
The police, however, have rejected the parents’ version as a ‘lie’. In a letter dated February 9, the Deputy Superintendent of Police has told the parents that they investigated the death and “found no evidence to say that it was human sacrifice”. SP Chetan Singh Rathore echoes the line: “This is not human sacrifice, this is normal murder. Anyway, human sacrifice is as good as murder in a court of law. We have registered a case under Section 302 of the Indian Penal Code,” he said. The police maintain that the murder was committed in a moment of irrepressible rage by the landlord’s son Ninganagouda as he had discovered that the 17-year-old Basavaraja was having an ‘illicit relationship’ with his wife.
The district in-charge minister C.M. Udasi agrees with the police. “I’ve made several enquiries,” he says. “This is a false complaint. This is not human sacrifice.” However, Dalit writers and activists like Devanoor Mahadeva and S. Sivalingam insist that this is indeed a reprehensible ritual offering and the state does not want to admit it as it would mean negative publicity and disrepute. Strangely, the human rights lobby is yet to mobilise on a case that involves a Dalit being “sacrificed”. People prefer to pretend it did not happen. When Outlook contacted the CM’s office, a response was promised, but didn’t come.
Basavaraja’s parents are outraged by this “fabricated tale meant only for a cover-up”. Despite the evident disinterest of the local authorities to probe the death thoroughly, and the prima facie evidence on offer (including the post-mortem report), raises many uneasy questions about Basavaraja’s death, besides punching holes in the police story.
“This is barbaric. What century are we living in? In our society, the dead and their ghosts seem to control the living.”Devanoor Mahadeva, Renowned Kannada Writer
Here’s a simple chronology of events and evidence that Basavaraja’s parents placed before Outlook. Their two surviving children, relatives and villagers helped them piece together the narrative. The entire Kademani family worked for Basavanagouda, who owns around 40 acres of land, until a year ago. They had discontinued the arrangement when the landlord suspected them of committing theft in his house. After some time, though, their son Basavaraja had been re-engaged to drive the tractor at the farm.
Sometime in 2010, Basavanagouda built a house with an RCC roof. While the house was being constructed, a worker lost his life. This was seen as a terrible omen. Other workers were reluctant to continue after the death as they apparently heard strange sounds at the work site. The landlord persisted and somehow got the house completed, but very soon the walls started developing air cracks. All this prompted the landlord to summon a tantrik to perform appropriate poojas to ‘establish peace’ in the house. The tantrik, who started frequenting the house, reportedly began with basic rituals like burying lemons and coconuts in different corners of the house. When that did not work, he graduated to performing somewhat more ‘powerful’ poojas. This included burying a live pig in the compound around August 2011. Ironically, each time the poojas happened, it was Basavaraja who was asked to bury the consecrated elements, including the pig. When none of this secured the desired result, Basavaraja’s parents believe, the tantrik finally resorted to making their son the ‘sacrificial object’ on Saturday, November 26, 2011. It was the night after the new moon.
Basavaraja’s parents recall how the final evening unfolded for their son. The landlord had given him his motorbike in the evening and asked him to drop off a labourer in the neighbouring village and return quickly. Basavaraja took his friend, Nagaraja, along so that he would have company when he rode back. This was around 7.30 pm. Between 7.30 pm and 8.30 pm, when they returned to the village, the landlord had called Basavaraja on his cellphone nearly half-a-dozen times and asked him to hurry back. Once they reached the village entrance, Basavaraja asked Nagaraja to get off and wait for him in his house. When Basavaraja did not return as promised, Nagaraja called him on his phone. It rang a couple of times, but later started giving a ‘switched off’ message. Nagaraja went to bed thinking that some unexpected work must have come up at the landlord’s house. Early next morning, the police reached Basavaraja’s house and told the parents their son had been grievously injured after he had clashed with the landlord’s son and that he had been admitted to hospital. But instead of taking the parents to the hospital, the police took them straight to the police station.
“If this has indeed happened, we have to hang our heads in shame. The state government should order a CBI inquiry.”Siddaramaiah, Leader Of Opposition In Assembly
The parents and villagers reconstruct in graphic detail what might have happened to Basavaraja in the dark hours of Nov 26. His body was recovered a couple of kilometres away from the landlord’s house. It is suspected that after the ritual, they wanted to burn the body in an isolated place far away from the village. The body was put in a gunny bag and carried in a tractor around midnight. But luck wasn’t on their side. A few farmers were still in their fields since the three-phase electricity to run irrigation pumps is provided only for two specified hours in the night. When these farmers called out seeing the unusual movement at that late hour, Ninganagouda panicked. He is said to have dropped the gunny bag with the body in the field and rushed to the police station to surrender.
The condition of Basavaraja’s body hinted at a tantric ritual, the villagers say. Turmeric and vermillion had been smeared all over the body, oil had been applied to the hair. The mouth was stuffed with cotton. There was a hole in the forehead, as if a nail had been driven there. The neck had been turned, the right eye gouged, ears and lips torn and a few teeth plucked out. The face had been crushed and it was difficult to make out that it was Basavaraja.
Cause macabre A Swabhimani Dalit Shakti protest against Basavaraja’s death
The post-mortem report of Nov 27, 2011, has similar observations. Among other things, it says, “Face has taken the shape of flat surface and compressed from both sides. Lacerated wound in middle of forehead (5*1 cm), where the wound is 5 cm deep towards the brain.... Right eye crushed and lost its shape. All skull bones fractured. All facial bones fractured. Brain has torn into pieces and has no shape and has become one mass. Right lung congested. Left lung crushed and bloodstained. Heart empty (read missing). Death is due to shock and haemorrhage.”
“I have made several enquiries. This is a false complaint. It is not the fact. It is not human sacrifice.”C.M. Udasi, Haveri District In-Charge Minister
Despite the gruesomeness of the act, the police, villagers feel, deliberately ignored evidence on the crime site. They locked up the house where the ritual took place and allowed the perpetrators of the crime, Basavanagouda and his family, to abscond. It was Basavaraja’s enterprising uncles and cousins who, just before the police locked up the house, used their cellphones to take photographs of the walls and utensils of the landlord’s house where blood has been splashed. They have also photographed the body when it was taken out of the gunny bag. In the last month or so, the police have also apparently tried to clean up the house. A few weeks back, the villagers noticed a dark-coloured water flowing out of it. Although the villagers claim the police seized Basavaraja’s mobile, they deny it is in their possession. The police have also said that they have not done the mandatory videography of the post-mortem.
Outlook also tried to verify if there was any truth to the illicit relationship spin the police have put on the murder. Ninganagouda’s parents-in-law in Devarabelakeri village of neighbouring Davangere district were contacted with the help of the Swabhimani Dalit Shakti organisation. The details emerging from there are as befuddling. Ninganagouda and Deepa had been married only for six months. In those six months, she had visited her in-laws’ place only twice and stayed for 20 days in all. And when Basavaraja was killed, she was not at her in-laws’ place but undergoing treatment for an ailment at her mother’s place. The girl’s parents say they met their son-in-law in jail and asked him why he had tried to defame his wife. He apparently told them it was not “his story”, but a police “concoction”.
Basavaraja’s parents have submitted memoranda to almost everybody—from the SP and DM in the district to the CM and governor in Bangalore—but nothing seems to have helped. Mainstream Dalit organisations showed interest in the beginning but have suddenly gone mute. Meanwhile, the local MLA and social justice department have offered Basavaraja’s parents a meagre compensation. But compensation isn’t what Basavaraja’s parents want. They want justice.
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?280010
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you stupid fellow , i am talking about sacrificing goats not humans .
thats practice session for hardening ourselves for the real thing---killing muslims when they attack us .
some perverts are bound to be there who indulge in human sacrifice---we need to ignore them .
thats practice session for hardening ourselves for the real thing---killing muslims when they attack us .
some perverts are bound to be there who indulge in human sacrifice---we need to ignore them .
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ashdoc wrote:Rashmun wrote:'it is not right to make one's stomach the graveyard of animals'
--Mughal Emperor Akbar, as quoted in the Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl. Akbar is here arguing for vegetarianism.
who cares what akbar says , here the goddess gadhimai and her sister kali demand the blood and flesh of goats in order to strengthen themselves for fighting the asuras who threaten the hindu religion .
we must fulfill what the goddess demands---for she will protect us , not akbar whose greatgrandson aurangzeb proved to be a hinduhater anyway . so however secular and tolerant these muslims are , their progeny is bound to be fanatic anyway.
MUMBAI: The city police arrested another self-proclaimed tantrik, Shaikh Shahbuddin Anwar alias Baba Bangali, on Sunday for allegedly duping a Dahisar shop-owner of Rs 1.6 lakhs.
The 'tantrik' recently approached Mahendra Jain, who owns the Ambika home appliance shop in Ambewadi, Dahisar, and reportedly told him that he could become rich in a few days if he performed a ritual. Mr Jain agreed to perform the ritual, but he was asked by the 'tantrik' to sacrifice a young boy. When he refused, the 'tantrik' asked him to sacrifice two animals, the police said. Since Mr Jain was afraid to sacrifice the animals, the 'tantrik' asked him to pay Rs 4 lakhs so that the latter could sacrifice "a camel and a buffalo in a village in West Bengal.''
The businessmen believed his words and handed over Rs 1.6 lakhs in cash. He tried to arrange the remaining sum from his friend, but the latter informed the Dahisar police. On Sunday, the policemen laid a trap and arrested the 'tantrik'. They recovered the cash from him.
Meanwhile, following the arrests of two 'tantriks' with the title of Baba Bangali, the crime branch officers have decided to keep tabs on such 'tantriks'.
A senior crime branch officer said his department would conduct a survey of such 'tantriks' and try to identify their backgrounds.
The police have also appealed to citizens to lodge complaints if they suspect that the 'tantriks' were conmen.
Complaints can be given to the local police station.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2002-07-23/mumbai/27322454_1_tantrik-baba-bangali-dahisar
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in my opinion, the possibility cannot be ruled out that we have a Tantrik posting on this forum.
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[quote="Rashmun"]
you know damn well i am a doctor cum movie reviewer .
but you are running out of arguments are hence indulging in personal attacks LOL
ashdoc wrote:
in my opinion, the possibility cannot be ruled out that we have a Tantrik posting on this forum.
you know damn well i am a doctor cum movie reviewer .
but you are running out of arguments are hence indulging in personal attacks LOL
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Tantric Rituals of Animal Sacrifice
Issue 11, March 15, 2009
Siddhi B. Ranjitkar
“Read out mantras in the ear of a goat, sacrifice it to a deity, get empowered to achieve your goal,” says a Tantrik.
Nepalis particularly the Nevah have developed many Tantric rituals in the course of their social and cultural development during the last millennium. Our traditional socio-religious customs are explained in terms of Tantric rituals. We believe that Tantra and Mantra have been in practice since more than 3,000 years ago. We use such Tantra and Mantra for good purposes such as healing ailments, controlling natural phenomena, securing strength, and achieving perfection. Some of us even misuse these unique Tantra and Mantra harming others. Serious Tantriks could even emerge as deities by their Tantric power. Now, let us talk about the Tantric rituals of the sacrifice of a male goat to a deity. We believe in three main sacrifices such as life, soul and body of a goat.
Our tradition has it that sacrifice of a male goat to the ancestral tutelary deity called Kuldevta is mandatory once a year during the annual Devali Puja in May-June. We need to perform Devali Puja to our Kuldevta to initiate newborn babies and newly wedded brides to the clan called Devali. New babies and newly married brides would not get rights and privileges of the clan as long as they were not entered into the clan through the Devali Puja.
We also offer animal sacrifices to various deities for varieties of reasons. Following the tradition, we offer sacrifices of buffaloes and goats, ducks and chickens all males to Goddess Durga Bhavani during the Dasain festival: one of the main festivals we have. It is a fifteen-day festival. We also offer animal sacrifices to Goddess Kali and God Bhairava for power and strength, to God Ganesh for perfection and success of anything we do, and to God Bhimsen for profits and other gains.
Tantric gods and goddesses enjoy meat dishes, alcoholic drinks and accept offerings of animal blood. You might be surprised to know that Tantriks have brought almost all Shastriyas deities to the Tantric nets. So, you find that God Ganesh as a Shastriyas god loves to have sweet balls but when he comes under the Tantric net he drinks alcohol, eats meat dishes and accepts animal sacrifices. Even the supreme Hindu God Lord Shiva coming under the Tantric net becomes hidden Mahadev and enjoys all sorts of non-vegetarian dishes and accepts alcoholic beverages.
Usually, we make three sorts of offerings to gods and goddesses. One is a regular annual offering to gods and goddesses during the annual festival. All the citizenry make such an offerings. Another is the special offering to a god or a goddess to win his/her favor for meeting our wish. We make such an offering at a propitious time. If the deity does not meet our wish then we do not make an offering. The third offering we make to gods and goddess is for healing any ailment. In this case, we make an offering to a concerned deity in an anticipation of healing our ailment.
We need to make offerings to Lord Ganesh and his brother God Kumar before making offerings to any other gods and goddesses. We make full offerings to Lord Ganesh but a half offering to his brother Kumar. None of the deities accepts any offerings made to them without first offerings to Lord Ganesh and his brother Kumar. So, first we prepare one brass tray with various items of offerings to Lord Ganesh and a half offering on a broad leaf for Kumar. Kumar dwells in an eight-petal lotus carved into a flagstone and set at the entrance to each Nevah house. Lord Ganesh dwells at a temple built at each neighborhood called tole.
We prepare a special brass tray or a container with the items of offerings to all deities to be worshipped during a festival time, and a similar brass tray with the items of offerings to a deity of our choice for making the pledged offering in return for the favor we received from the deity or for making an offering to a deity in an anticipation of getting our ailment healed.
We decorate a sacrificial goat before taking it to a deity. A woman takes a brass tray with the offerings to be made to Lord Ganesh on her left hand and the items of offerings to be made to Kumar on her right hands. She drops off the offerings to Kumar on the eight-petal stone lotus at the entrance to the house while on the way to Lord Ganesh. On her return from Lord Ganesh, she decorates the horns of the goat with the vermillion and puts a garland of flowers around the neck of the goat, and consecrates the goat.
We make offerings of the animal sacrifices to deities at their field shrines. Most of our deities have town abodes and field shrines. So, a man pulls the sacrificial goat by a rope tied to its neck to the deity at the field shrine. The patriarch of a family holds the brass plate or a container with items of other offerings and follows the goat to the shrine.
The patriarch makes the offerings of all the items he has carried in a container or on a brass plate to the deity. He also makes offerings to a knife to be used for slitting the throat of the goat and calls on Lord Bhairava to dwell in the blade of the knife. This we do for Lord Bhairava taking the life of the goat not the person slitting the throat of the goat.
Then, the patriarch initiates the sacrifice of the goat. First, he offers worship to the goat taking a few items of offerings from the brass tray or a container. Then, he sprinkles holy water on the body of the goat and whispers some lines of incantation in the right ear of the goat. These lines are: “you have been born as an animal because of your past wrong deeds in your previous life; now, you will be relieve of your past sins, and of the animal life if you agree on sacrificing your body, life and soul to the deity.”
Then, everybody watches the goat to shake water off its body. Somebody continues to sprinkle water on the body of the goat, and waits the goat to shake it off. If the goat does not respond it then somebody pour water in the ear of the goat and waits for the goat to shake it off. Once, the goat shakes water off its body means it gave its approval to sacrifice.
In case a goat does not shakes water off its body means it does not approve to sacrifice and we do not sacrifice such a goat to a deity. Then, we hang a small bell on its neck and let it go free in the name of the deity it was supposed to be sacrificed. It lives the divine life. Everybody treats it as a god-sent goat and respectably feeds it. It dies of a natural death.
Once, the goat shakes water off its body. Two men take it to the deity for sacrificing. A man holds it on his left thigh, holds its head by his left hand and pulls it back and takes the knife in his right hand and touches it head before slitting the throat of the goat. This means taking the approval of Lord Bhairava to slit the throat of the goat. The second man holds the four legs of the goat under the thigh of the first man for easing him to cut the throat of the goat.
Slitting the throat of the goat, the man makes three offerings of the goat to the deity. The man slits the throat of the goat and lets the blood flow to the image of the deity. This is the offering of life. Then, both the men holding the goat in the same position mentioned above go round the shrine offering the blood to other deities there, and come back to the deity again. He then slits the throat of the goat taking off its breath, and offers the blood again to the deity. This is the offering of soul. He cuts a piece of meat from the neck of the goat, and offers it to the deity. This is the offering of body.
Then, the man separates the head of the goat and cuts a piece of its tail and inserts it in its mouth and sets the head at the image of the deity facing to the deity. It represents the whole body of the goat. The patriarch takes a bunch of cotton wicks soaked in the mustard seeds oil and light them and sets them on the head of the severed head of the goat. It means the light takes the soul of the goat to the deity and merges it with the divinity.
We take the meat of the goat thus sacrificed as the blessed food, and we never sell it but share it among the family members, or members of a clan or among the guests. We offer it to the members of the extended family as the blessing from the deity, sometimes to the guests of the larger community if we have made a feast for them on the occasion of an adulthood ceremony called ‘kayata puja’ in the Nevah language and ‘bratabandh’ in Nepali or a wedding feast and so on.
We reserve the head of the sacrificed goat especially for the senior members of the clan. We meticulously cut the head of the goat into eight specific parts such as two eyes including two horns, two ears, two jawbones, a nose and a tongue altogether are called sii-u. We offer the sii-u to the senior members of the clan in the Tantric feast called ‘sikaaya bhu’ held at the end of the feast.
To match the Tantric feast, we use the leaves-plates stitched following the Tantric rules. For example, we stitch two broad leaves to a base leaf, and then six leaves around the two leaves making a nine-leaf plate. The top eight leaves represent eight mother goddesses. Then, we set eight different food items representing eight mother goddesses on such leaf plates.
Then, all the patriarch members of the clan or a household depending on the sort of the offerings made to a deity sit at the leaf plate following the protocol of seniority. If the sacrifice of a goat is of the community offerings, then, the patriarch members of the clan share the sii-u; if the sacrifice of a goat is only a household affair then the members of the household share the sii-u. The senior most receives the right eye then the second senior most the left eye, then the right ear, left ear, right jawbone, left jawbone, nose and finally the youngest one receives the tongue, the rest of the members receive some meat to compensate for not having any sii-u for them. The spouse of the chief patriarch receives the tail.
A person usually a woman makes the offerings of the sii-u to the members of the clan. She takes the sii-u and a piece of a meat on her left and a brass cup filled up with home-brewed liquor on her right hand and crosses her hands and makes the offering of those items to the members of the clan starting from the chief patriarch. The concerned man receives the brass cup on his right hand and the sii-u on his left hand. He sips the liquor and then takes a bite of the sii-u. This means accepting the life of the sacrificial goat. Then, the woman adds some liquor to the brass cup the man holding. It is done for refreshing the liquor. He sips the liquor and takes a bite of the sii-u for the second time. This means accepting the soul of the sacrificial goat. The woman adds few drops of liquor to the brass cup the man is holding. Then, the man sips the liquor and takes a bite of the sii-u for the third time. This means accepting the body of the sacrificial goat. Thereafter, he sets the brass cup on the floor and continues to eat the sii-u. The woman repeats this process of sii-u offerings to all patriarch members of the clan.
We believe that this process of the sii-u offering is the symbol of performing the fire-worship called ya-jna. Our stomach is the fireplace where fire god dwells and eating the sii-u and drinking the liquor mean the offerings of these items to the fire-god in our stomach. Thus, we perform fire worship to accomplish the sacrifice of a goat for freeing the sacrificial animal from the need to be born as an animal and for completing the Tantric offering of a sacrificial goat to a Tantric deity.
When the gods and goddess are under the Tantric net they accept animal blood, meat dishes and alcoholic beverage. For example, when Lord Shiva comes under the Tantric net he becomes Lord Bhairava and ‘Luku Mahadya’ and accepts all sorts of non-vegetarian offerings and blood of animals and birds. We believe that they are powerful deities and they make us powerful, too.
We also believe that such an animal sacrifice is the supreme offering to deities. We do it to gain strength and power to achieve our goals. The result of such offering is not only the gain for the person making such an offering but also to the sacrificial animal, as the animal never needs to reborn as an animal and thus gets emancipated from the animal life. This is our belief.
March 6, 2009.
http://66.7.193.115:8080/kathmandumetro/culture/tantric-rituals-of-animal-sacrifice
Issue 11, March 15, 2009
Siddhi B. Ranjitkar
“Read out mantras in the ear of a goat, sacrifice it to a deity, get empowered to achieve your goal,” says a Tantrik.
Nepalis particularly the Nevah have developed many Tantric rituals in the course of their social and cultural development during the last millennium. Our traditional socio-religious customs are explained in terms of Tantric rituals. We believe that Tantra and Mantra have been in practice since more than 3,000 years ago. We use such Tantra and Mantra for good purposes such as healing ailments, controlling natural phenomena, securing strength, and achieving perfection. Some of us even misuse these unique Tantra and Mantra harming others. Serious Tantriks could even emerge as deities by their Tantric power. Now, let us talk about the Tantric rituals of the sacrifice of a male goat to a deity. We believe in three main sacrifices such as life, soul and body of a goat.
Our tradition has it that sacrifice of a male goat to the ancestral tutelary deity called Kuldevta is mandatory once a year during the annual Devali Puja in May-June. We need to perform Devali Puja to our Kuldevta to initiate newborn babies and newly wedded brides to the clan called Devali. New babies and newly married brides would not get rights and privileges of the clan as long as they were not entered into the clan through the Devali Puja.
We also offer animal sacrifices to various deities for varieties of reasons. Following the tradition, we offer sacrifices of buffaloes and goats, ducks and chickens all males to Goddess Durga Bhavani during the Dasain festival: one of the main festivals we have. It is a fifteen-day festival. We also offer animal sacrifices to Goddess Kali and God Bhairava for power and strength, to God Ganesh for perfection and success of anything we do, and to God Bhimsen for profits and other gains.
Tantric gods and goddesses enjoy meat dishes, alcoholic drinks and accept offerings of animal blood. You might be surprised to know that Tantriks have brought almost all Shastriyas deities to the Tantric nets. So, you find that God Ganesh as a Shastriyas god loves to have sweet balls but when he comes under the Tantric net he drinks alcohol, eats meat dishes and accepts animal sacrifices. Even the supreme Hindu God Lord Shiva coming under the Tantric net becomes hidden Mahadev and enjoys all sorts of non-vegetarian dishes and accepts alcoholic beverages.
Usually, we make three sorts of offerings to gods and goddesses. One is a regular annual offering to gods and goddesses during the annual festival. All the citizenry make such an offerings. Another is the special offering to a god or a goddess to win his/her favor for meeting our wish. We make such an offering at a propitious time. If the deity does not meet our wish then we do not make an offering. The third offering we make to gods and goddess is for healing any ailment. In this case, we make an offering to a concerned deity in an anticipation of healing our ailment.
We need to make offerings to Lord Ganesh and his brother God Kumar before making offerings to any other gods and goddesses. We make full offerings to Lord Ganesh but a half offering to his brother Kumar. None of the deities accepts any offerings made to them without first offerings to Lord Ganesh and his brother Kumar. So, first we prepare one brass tray with various items of offerings to Lord Ganesh and a half offering on a broad leaf for Kumar. Kumar dwells in an eight-petal lotus carved into a flagstone and set at the entrance to each Nevah house. Lord Ganesh dwells at a temple built at each neighborhood called tole.
We prepare a special brass tray or a container with the items of offerings to all deities to be worshipped during a festival time, and a similar brass tray with the items of offerings to a deity of our choice for making the pledged offering in return for the favor we received from the deity or for making an offering to a deity in an anticipation of getting our ailment healed.
We decorate a sacrificial goat before taking it to a deity. A woman takes a brass tray with the offerings to be made to Lord Ganesh on her left hand and the items of offerings to be made to Kumar on her right hands. She drops off the offerings to Kumar on the eight-petal stone lotus at the entrance to the house while on the way to Lord Ganesh. On her return from Lord Ganesh, she decorates the horns of the goat with the vermillion and puts a garland of flowers around the neck of the goat, and consecrates the goat.
We make offerings of the animal sacrifices to deities at their field shrines. Most of our deities have town abodes and field shrines. So, a man pulls the sacrificial goat by a rope tied to its neck to the deity at the field shrine. The patriarch of a family holds the brass plate or a container with items of other offerings and follows the goat to the shrine.
The patriarch makes the offerings of all the items he has carried in a container or on a brass plate to the deity. He also makes offerings to a knife to be used for slitting the throat of the goat and calls on Lord Bhairava to dwell in the blade of the knife. This we do for Lord Bhairava taking the life of the goat not the person slitting the throat of the goat.
Then, the patriarch initiates the sacrifice of the goat. First, he offers worship to the goat taking a few items of offerings from the brass tray or a container. Then, he sprinkles holy water on the body of the goat and whispers some lines of incantation in the right ear of the goat. These lines are: “you have been born as an animal because of your past wrong deeds in your previous life; now, you will be relieve of your past sins, and of the animal life if you agree on sacrificing your body, life and soul to the deity.”
Then, everybody watches the goat to shake water off its body. Somebody continues to sprinkle water on the body of the goat, and waits the goat to shake it off. If the goat does not respond it then somebody pour water in the ear of the goat and waits for the goat to shake it off. Once, the goat shakes water off its body means it gave its approval to sacrifice.
In case a goat does not shakes water off its body means it does not approve to sacrifice and we do not sacrifice such a goat to a deity. Then, we hang a small bell on its neck and let it go free in the name of the deity it was supposed to be sacrificed. It lives the divine life. Everybody treats it as a god-sent goat and respectably feeds it. It dies of a natural death.
Once, the goat shakes water off its body. Two men take it to the deity for sacrificing. A man holds it on his left thigh, holds its head by his left hand and pulls it back and takes the knife in his right hand and touches it head before slitting the throat of the goat. This means taking the approval of Lord Bhairava to slit the throat of the goat. The second man holds the four legs of the goat under the thigh of the first man for easing him to cut the throat of the goat.
Slitting the throat of the goat, the man makes three offerings of the goat to the deity. The man slits the throat of the goat and lets the blood flow to the image of the deity. This is the offering of life. Then, both the men holding the goat in the same position mentioned above go round the shrine offering the blood to other deities there, and come back to the deity again. He then slits the throat of the goat taking off its breath, and offers the blood again to the deity. This is the offering of soul. He cuts a piece of meat from the neck of the goat, and offers it to the deity. This is the offering of body.
Then, the man separates the head of the goat and cuts a piece of its tail and inserts it in its mouth and sets the head at the image of the deity facing to the deity. It represents the whole body of the goat. The patriarch takes a bunch of cotton wicks soaked in the mustard seeds oil and light them and sets them on the head of the severed head of the goat. It means the light takes the soul of the goat to the deity and merges it with the divinity.
We take the meat of the goat thus sacrificed as the blessed food, and we never sell it but share it among the family members, or members of a clan or among the guests. We offer it to the members of the extended family as the blessing from the deity, sometimes to the guests of the larger community if we have made a feast for them on the occasion of an adulthood ceremony called ‘kayata puja’ in the Nevah language and ‘bratabandh’ in Nepali or a wedding feast and so on.
We reserve the head of the sacrificed goat especially for the senior members of the clan. We meticulously cut the head of the goat into eight specific parts such as two eyes including two horns, two ears, two jawbones, a nose and a tongue altogether are called sii-u. We offer the sii-u to the senior members of the clan in the Tantric feast called ‘sikaaya bhu’ held at the end of the feast.
To match the Tantric feast, we use the leaves-plates stitched following the Tantric rules. For example, we stitch two broad leaves to a base leaf, and then six leaves around the two leaves making a nine-leaf plate. The top eight leaves represent eight mother goddesses. Then, we set eight different food items representing eight mother goddesses on such leaf plates.
Then, all the patriarch members of the clan or a household depending on the sort of the offerings made to a deity sit at the leaf plate following the protocol of seniority. If the sacrifice of a goat is of the community offerings, then, the patriarch members of the clan share the sii-u; if the sacrifice of a goat is only a household affair then the members of the household share the sii-u. The senior most receives the right eye then the second senior most the left eye, then the right ear, left ear, right jawbone, left jawbone, nose and finally the youngest one receives the tongue, the rest of the members receive some meat to compensate for not having any sii-u for them. The spouse of the chief patriarch receives the tail.
A person usually a woman makes the offerings of the sii-u to the members of the clan. She takes the sii-u and a piece of a meat on her left and a brass cup filled up with home-brewed liquor on her right hand and crosses her hands and makes the offering of those items to the members of the clan starting from the chief patriarch. The concerned man receives the brass cup on his right hand and the sii-u on his left hand. He sips the liquor and then takes a bite of the sii-u. This means accepting the life of the sacrificial goat. Then, the woman adds some liquor to the brass cup the man holding. It is done for refreshing the liquor. He sips the liquor and takes a bite of the sii-u for the second time. This means accepting the soul of the sacrificial goat. The woman adds few drops of liquor to the brass cup the man is holding. Then, the man sips the liquor and takes a bite of the sii-u for the third time. This means accepting the body of the sacrificial goat. Thereafter, he sets the brass cup on the floor and continues to eat the sii-u. The woman repeats this process of sii-u offerings to all patriarch members of the clan.
We believe that this process of the sii-u offering is the symbol of performing the fire-worship called ya-jna. Our stomach is the fireplace where fire god dwells and eating the sii-u and drinking the liquor mean the offerings of these items to the fire-god in our stomach. Thus, we perform fire worship to accomplish the sacrifice of a goat for freeing the sacrificial animal from the need to be born as an animal and for completing the Tantric offering of a sacrificial goat to a Tantric deity.
When the gods and goddess are under the Tantric net they accept animal blood, meat dishes and alcoholic beverage. For example, when Lord Shiva comes under the Tantric net he becomes Lord Bhairava and ‘Luku Mahadya’ and accepts all sorts of non-vegetarian offerings and blood of animals and birds. We believe that they are powerful deities and they make us powerful, too.
We also believe that such an animal sacrifice is the supreme offering to deities. We do it to gain strength and power to achieve our goals. The result of such offering is not only the gain for the person making such an offering but also to the sacrificial animal, as the animal never needs to reborn as an animal and thus gets emancipated from the animal life. This is our belief.
March 6, 2009.
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Re: Gadhimai mela---how Nepali hindus preserve their manliness
ashdoc wrote:you stupid fellow , i am talking about sacrificing goats not humans .
thats practice session for hardening ourselves for the real thing---killing muslims when they attack us .
some perverts are bound to be there who indulge in human sacrifice---we need to ignore them .
But doc, if you want to toughen yourself sufficiently to kill Muslims, isn't it better to practise with the real thing i.e. humans? Slaughtering goats will hardly prepare you for anything - after all, they don't fight back.
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Re: Gadhimai mela---how Nepali hindus preserve their manliness
ashdoc wrote:The gurkhas of nepal are some of the most feared hindu soldiers in the world and are welcomed in both the british and indian armies . Read this link and see photos to see how they preserve their manliness by animal sacrifice---
http://blog.knowledge-must.com/archives/29-Gadhimai-Mela-The-Largest-Sacrifice.html
Some pics were very disturbing. But why is this an issue? As in, how it is different from Bakra-Eid celebrated all over the world, where arguably more animals are sacrificed in a day? I think they are factually incorrect in stating that this is the largest animal sacrifice, the largest animal sacrifice day is Bakra-Eid.
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Re: Gadhimai mela---how Nepali hindus preserve their manliness
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
But doc, if you want to toughen yourself sufficiently to kill Muslims, isn't it better to practise with the real thing i.e. humans? Slaughtering goats will hardly prepare you for anything - after all, they don't fight back.
we can practice only what can be done legally . and killing of humans is illegal .
only if a muslim comes to harm you or rape your woman or kill your relatives etc then you are free to use violence on him .
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Re: Gadhimai mela---how Nepali hindus preserve their manliness
Kumarg wrote:
Some pics were very disturbing. But why is this an issue? As in, how it is different from Bakra-Eid celebrated all over the world, where arguably more animals are sacrificed in a day? I think they are factually incorrect in stating that this is the largest animal sacrifice, the largest animal sacrifice day is Bakra-Eid.
this is an issue because the gurkhas are toughened into great soldiers due to their insensitivity to animal sacrifice . due to this gurkhas are tough soldiers---so unlike the reputation of hindus as cowards . even the british army takes them .
and this is the greatest sacrifice done on a single day in one place .
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