An aspect of the great importance of Hindi (link language of India)

by Guest Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:04 am

http://ibnlive.in.com/cnnibnvideos/top-us/305040.html

The above link will take you to a link in which you will find a tamil (Mani Shankar Aiyar) and a telugu (Renuka Chaudhary) campaigning in Gujarat, for the upcoming Gujarat state elections, in the Hindi language. Notice that they are talking in Hindi and not in Gujarati. Why so? Because the common man of Gujarat understands Hindi and is ok with electoral speeches in Hindi.

by Guest Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:25 am

Rashmun wrote:
http://ibnlive.in.com/cnnibnvideos/top-us/305040.html

The above link will take you to a link in which you will find a tamil (Mani Shankar Aiyar) and a telugu (Renuka Chaudhary) campaigning in Gujarat, for the upcoming Gujarat state elections, in the Hindi language. Notice that they are talking in Hindi and not in Gujarati. Why so? Because the common man of Gujarat understands Hindi and is ok with electoral speeches in Hindi.

Another person talking in hindi in the video at the link is Oscar Fernandez, also campaigning in Gujarat for the forthcoming state elections. Oscar is a Kannadiga.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:31 am

Mani Iyer, Renuka Chaudhary and Oscar Fernandes wouldn't win a municipal election in their respective states if their lives depended on it. And they're campaigning against Modi in Gujarat?? Bwahahaha...The Congress and Hindi as a link language are both going to sink like stones.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:42 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:Mani Iyer, Renuka Chaudhary and Oscar Fernandes wouldn't win a municipal election in their respective states if their lives depended on it. And they're campaigning against Modi in Gujarat?? Bwahahaha...The Congress and Hindi as a link language are both going to sink like stones.

sometimes a politician may be more popular outside his home state. for instance, mohammad azharuddin, the former indian cricket captain, is from andhra pradesh but he is currently a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh. likewise for jaya prada who is also from andhra pradesh but a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:52 am

Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Mani Iyer, Renuka Chaudhary and Oscar Fernandes wouldn't win a municipal election in their respective states if their lives depended on it. And they're campaigning against Modi in Gujarat?? Bwahahaha...The Congress and Hindi as a link language are both going to sink like stones.

sometimes a politician may be more popular outside his home state. for instance, mohammad azharuddin, the former indian cricket captain, is from andhra pradesh but he is currently a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh. likewise for jaya prada who is also from andhra pradesh but a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh.

And that sir, I would say, is a travesty of democracy. Individuals who possess no local roots whatsoever, no record for public service whatsoever, winning a mandate to represent the people of those constituencies purely on the back of the money power of their party.

Exactly like Hindi. An imperial, alien language with no local roots being thrust (at taxpayer's expense) down unwilling throats.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:00 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Mani Iyer, Renuka Chaudhary and Oscar Fernandes wouldn't win a municipal election in their respective states if their lives depended on it. And they're campaigning against Modi in Gujarat?? Bwahahaha...The Congress and Hindi as a link language are both going to sink like stones.

sometimes a politician may be more popular outside his home state. for instance, mohammad azharuddin, the former indian cricket captain, is from andhra pradesh but he is currently a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh. likewise for jaya prada who is also from andhra pradesh but a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh.

And that sir, I would say, is a travesty of democracy. Individuals who possess no local roots whatsoever, no record for public service whatsoever, winning a mandate to represent the people of those constituencies purely on the back of the money power of their party.

Exactly like Hindi. An imperial, alien language with no local roots being thrust (at taxpayer's expense) down unwilling throats.

Hindi is not a foreign language because of the existence of the southern indian language Dakhini which is the lingua franca of the vast majority of south indian muslims. For instance, this is what the wikipedia page on Vellore tells me:

Most of the people in Vellore are Hindus. There is a significant Muslim population in the city—particularly in Kaspa, R. N. Palayam, Saidapet, Hazarath Makkan, Bakiyath Street and Sarbanamedu, which is considerably higher than the state average. Most speak Dakhni Urdu as their first language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellore

Just as kannada is the first language of most kannadigas but there are also kannadigas whose first language is konkani or coorgi, etc. so the first language of the vast majority of south indian muslims is Dakhini. Since Dakhini is a variant of Hindustani, it cannot be denied that a variant of Hindi is the first language of many south indians.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:27 am

Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Mani Iyer, Renuka Chaudhary and Oscar Fernandes wouldn't win a municipal election in their respective states if their lives depended on it. And they're campaigning against Modi in Gujarat?? Bwahahaha...The Congress and Hindi as a link language are both going to sink like stones.

sometimes a politician may be more popular outside his home state. for instance, mohammad azharuddin, the former indian cricket captain, is from andhra pradesh but he is currently a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh. likewise for jaya prada who is also from andhra pradesh but a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh.

And that sir, I would say, is a travesty of democracy. Individuals who possess no local roots whatsoever, no record for public service whatsoever, winning a mandate to represent the people of those constituencies purely on the back of the money power of their party.

Exactly like Hindi. An imperial, alien language with no local roots being thrust (at taxpayer's expense) down unwilling throats.

Hindi is not a foreign language because of the existence of the southern indian language Dakhini which is the lingua franca of the vast majority of south indian muslims. For instance, this is what the wikipedia page on Vellore tells me:

Most of the people in Vellore are Hindus. There is a significant Muslim population in the city—particularly in Kaspa, R. N. Palayam, Saidapet, Hazarath Makkan, Bakiyath Street and Sarbanamedu, which is considerably higher than the state average. Most speak Dakhni Urdu as their first language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellore

Just as kannada is the first language of most kannadigas but there are also kannadigas whose first language is konkani or coorgi, etc. so the first language of the vast majority of south indian muslims is Dakhini. Since Dakhini is a variant of Hindustani, it cannot be denied that a variant of Hindi is the first language of many south indians.

Urdu speaking Muslims in South India are largely descendants of the Mughal armies stationed in the Deccan. The Navayat Muslims of Karnataka speak Konkani. The Moplahs and other local Muslims in Kerala speak Malayalam. Muslims in TN speak Thamizh. That leaves you with the Nizam's ex-dominion where Dakhni might be very prevalent. That doesn't make it or Hindi any less imperial or alien.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:39 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Mani Iyer, Renuka Chaudhary and Oscar Fernandes wouldn't win a municipal election in their respective states if their lives depended on it. And they're campaigning against Modi in Gujarat?? Bwahahaha...The Congress and Hindi as a link language are both going to sink like stones.

sometimes a politician may be more popular outside his home state. for instance, mohammad azharuddin, the former indian cricket captain, is from andhra pradesh but he is currently a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh. likewise for jaya prada who is also from andhra pradesh but a lok sabha member of parliament from uttar pradesh.

And that sir, I would say, is a travesty of democracy. Individuals who possess no local roots whatsoever, no record for public service whatsoever, winning a mandate to represent the people of those constituencies purely on the back of the money power of their party.

Exactly like Hindi. An imperial, alien language with no local roots being thrust (at taxpayer's expense) down unwilling throats.

Hindi is not a foreign language because of the existence of the southern indian language Dakhini which is the lingua franca of the vast majority of south indian muslims. For instance, this is what the wikipedia page on Vellore tells me:

Most of the people in Vellore are Hindus. There is a significant Muslim population in the city—particularly in Kaspa, R. N. Palayam, Saidapet, Hazarath Makkan, Bakiyath Street and Sarbanamedu, which is considerably higher than the state average. Most speak Dakhni Urdu as their first language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellore

Just as kannada is the first language of most kannadigas but there are also kannadigas whose first language is konkani or coorgi, etc. so the first language of the vast majority of south indian muslims is Dakhini. Since Dakhini is a variant of Hindustani, it cannot be denied that a variant of Hindi is the first language of many south indians.

Urdu speaking Muslims in South India are largely descendants of the Mughal armies stationed in the Deccan. The Navayat Muslims of Karnataka speak Konkani. The Moplahs and other local Muslims in Kerala speak Malayalam. Muslims in TN speak Thamizh. That leaves you with the Nizam's ex-dominion where Dakhni might be very prevalent. That doesn't make it or Hindi any less imperial or alien.

muslims in northern TN speak Dakhini as their first language. It is only muslims in the extreme south of TN who do not speak Dakhini as the first language. Besides the Nizams, there were also the Nawabs of the Carnatic (Nawabs of Arcot) whose rule presumably led to the spread of Dakhini in the region under their control. I just gave you the link to the wikipedia page on Vellore which says that the first language of Vellore muslims is Dakhini.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:44 am

Rashmun, like I said, it is only the Nizam's dominions (which include North TN) where Hindi is spoken. The Nizam and those miscellaneous Nawabs, sir, are all imperial implant. Their state language has nothing to do with the native culture. Hope this clarifies.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:54 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:Rashmun, like I said, it is only the Nizam's dominions (which include North TN) where Hindi is spoken. The Nizam and those miscellaneous Nawabs, sir, are all imperial implant. Their state language has nothing to do with the native culture. Hope this clarifies.

The fact that the first language of all muslims in northern TN is Dakhini means that it has now become a part of native culture. Thus the language has to be respected even if we assume that the language is some kind of an imperial implant. But even this claim of Dakhini (the southern indian variant of Hindustani) being an imperial implant is contested. For instance:

Khariboli is simple or spoken Hindi, as contrasted to literary Hindi which is used by many writers and public speakers (for instance, in Khariboli (or Hindustani) we say "udhar dekhiye", while in Hindi we say "udhar avlokan keejiye"). Khariboli is an urban language. It is the first language of the common man in the cities of what is known as the Hindi speaking belt (Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Delhi, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, etc.) and is the second language in the cities of many parts of the non-Hindi speaking belt, not only in India but also in Pakistan.

How did Khariboli come into existence?
Almost all cities in the world originated as market places (mandis). This was only possible when the productive forces had developed to an extent that people were producing more than they could themselves consume, and hence the surplus had to be sold or exchanged. In other words, commodities (i.e. goods for sale or exchange and not for self consumption) began to be produced.
Since the seller and the purchaser had to have a known place where the transaction of sale and purchase could take place, market places (mandis) were created, which later became cities. Now the seller and purchaser must have a common language, otherwise the transaction of sale would not be possible. Hence Khariboli arose as that common language of the market....

This shows that in vast areas of north India the rural population speaks different dialects, but the urban population had a common language, Khariboli. How did this happen?

This happened because a vast common market had been created in India (due to the development of the productive forces) even before the coming of the Mughals. A trader travelling from Bihar or Madhya Pradesh could easily sell his goods in a city in Uttar Pradesh or Rajasthan or Punjab because there was a common language, Khariboli, which both seller and purchaser knew (apart from knowing their local dialects). Thus Khariboli is the common language of the cities in large parts of India. Even in many parts of the non-Hindi speaking belt Khariboli is understood and spoken as a second language. Thus, if one goes to Kolkata, Bangalore, Gujarat, Lahore or Karachi or even in many parts of south India he can converse in Khariboli with people living in the cities (though there might be difficulty in rural areas).

http://www.amankiasha.com/news_cat.asp?id=472&catId=10&spId=0

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:26 am

Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Rashmun, like I said, it is only the Nizam's dominions (which include North TN) where Hindi is spoken. The Nizam and those miscellaneous Nawabs, sir, are all imperial implant. Their state language has nothing to do with the native culture. Hope this clarifies.

The fact that the first language of all muslims in northern TN is Dakhini means that it has now become a part of native culture.

Ok, then why talk of only Hindi as the link language. There's English too. Many urban Indians across the length and breadth of the country speak the language, including natives of each of the cities. So it is very much part of the native culture. And best of all, it's a link language to the world as well. So the economic prospects become that much brighter once someone learns English. "Think rationally about learning English and it will make sense". Vot?

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:02 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:Ok, then why talk of only Hindi as the link language. There's English too. Many urban Indians across the length and breadth of the country speak the language, including natives of each of the cities. So it is very much part of the native culture. And best of all, it's a link language to the world as well. So the economic prospects become that much brighter once someone learns English. "Think rationally about learning English and it will make sense". Vot?

i think with rapid urbanization and rising literacy, english may emerge as the link language contrary to popular perception that hindi fits the bill. *changing my own opinion* it's a FACT that even ordinary folks in south speak rudimentary english so it is not something that cannot be replicated in the north or will not gradually happen in the north.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:25 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Rashmun, like I said, it is only the Nizam's dominions (which include North TN) where Hindi is spoken. The Nizam and those miscellaneous Nawabs, sir, are all imperial implant. Their state language has nothing to do with the native culture. Hope this clarifies.

The fact that the first language of all muslims in northern TN is Dakhini means that it has now become a part of native culture.

Ok, then why talk of only Hindi as the link language. There's English too. Many urban Indians across the length and breadth of the country speak the language, including natives of each of the cities. So it is very much part of the native culture. And best of all, it's a link language to the world as well. So the economic prospects become that much brighter once someone learns English. "Think rationally about learning English and it will make sense". Vot?

eventually english will definitely become the link language of India. But do you know what is the percentage of people in India who speak english--for the purpose of communicating-- as of today? According to the writer of the hindu article the figure is around 5 percent. Even if you think the actual figure is higher, i do not believe it will exceed 10 percent. ( i am not talking here of Tamil Nadu where english penetration seems to be slightly higher than in other parts of India. ) This being the case there is no alternative to Hindustani being the link language for the immediate future.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:49 am

though it does not have an official status, hinglish is the lingua franca in urban north even among ordinary people. that is a step towards moving to english in the north.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:55 am

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:though it does not have an official status, hinglish is the lingua franca in urban north even among ordinary people. that is a step towards moving to english in the north.

i think you are talking about the wealthy and the middle class only.

Does Ganpat Ram talk in hinglish?

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:16 am

no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:25 am

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

for sure many (if not most) bollywood songs are in hinglish. but we are talking about the ability of people to communicate with other people in english here. if only 5-10 percent of Indians can communicate in english as of now then english cannot possibly be the link language of India as of now.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:53 am

Rashmun wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

for sure many (if not most) bollywood songs are in hinglish. but we are talking about the ability of people to communicate with other people in english here. if only 5-10 percent of Indians can communicate in english as of now then english cannot possibly be the link language of India as of now.

If a 5% penetration of Dakhni in South India is sufficient to qualify Hindi to become the link language for everyone in the South, then 5% penetration of English all over India is sufficient to qualify it to become a universal link language. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:56 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

for sure many (if not most) bollywood songs are in hinglish. but we are talking about the ability of people to communicate with other people in english here. if only 5-10 percent of Indians can communicate in english as of now then english cannot possibly be the link language of India as of now.

If a 5% penetration of Dakhni in South India is sufficient to qualify Hindi to become the link language for everyone in the South, then 5% penetration of English all over India is sufficient to qualify it to become a universal link language. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

LOL. Let us take a break from this debate now.

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:50 am

Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

for sure many (if not most) bollywood songs are in hinglish. but we are talking about the ability of people to communicate with other people in english here. if only 5-10 percent of Indians can communicate in english as of now then english cannot possibly be the link language of India as of now.

If a 5% penetration of Dakhni in South India is sufficient to qualify Hindi to become the link language for everyone in the South, then 5% penetration of English all over India is sufficient to qualify it to become a universal link language. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

LOL. Let us take a break from this debate now.

You mean you won't be posting an endless stream of copy pastes about the importance of Hindi? Please tell.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:33 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

for sure many (if not most) bollywood songs are in hinglish. but we are talking about the ability of people to communicate with other people in english here. if only 5-10 percent of Indians can communicate in english as of now then english cannot possibly be the link language of India as of now.

If a 5% penetration of Dakhni in South India is sufficient to qualify Hindi to become the link language for everyone in the South, then 5% penetration of English all over India is sufficient to qualify it to become a universal link language. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

LOL. Let us take a break from this debate now.

why stop now? it's not even broken the one page barrier. you have 25 pages more to go. get busy; NOW!

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:47 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:no ganpat ram does not talk in hinglish. but aren't most bollywood songs (for consumption of ordinary people) in hinglish?

for sure many (if not most) bollywood songs are in hinglish. but we are talking about the ability of people to communicate with other people in english here. if only 5-10 percent of Indians can communicate in english as of now then english cannot possibly be the link language of India as of now.

If a 5% penetration of Dakhni in South India is sufficient to qualify Hindi to become the link language for everyone in the South, then 5% penetration of English all over India is sufficient to qualify it to become a universal link language. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

LOL. Let us take a break from this debate now.

why stop now? it's not even broken the one page barrier. you have 25 pages more to go. get busy; NOW!

OK Fine. Here you go:

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CITIES » TIRUCHIRAPALLI

TIRUCHI, September 16, 2012
‘Learn Hindi for social understanding’

Competitions in Hindi essay writing, noting and drafting, and film songs singing marked the Hindi week celebrations held at the Zonal Railway Training Institute here recently.

Competition

Hindi conversation competition was conducted for the instructors and staff of the Institute.

Seminar

Also a technical seminar was conducted in Hindi on the topic ‘complete arrival of train’.

S. A. Abdul Rahman, Additional Divisional Railway Manager, Tiruchi division, was the chief guest at the valediction function , and he distributed prizes.

Mr. Abdul Rahman motivated the staff of the Institute to learn Hindi and explained how the learning of Hindi will help for better social understanding.

R.Raguraman, principal, Zonal Railway Training Institute, also spoke.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tiruchirapalli/learn-hindi-for-social-understanding/article3903814.ece

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:49 pm

I am reminded of an incident that happened in Bangalore two months ago. I hired a taxi to go to a well known hospital. The driver did not know a word of Tamil or English. He said he was good in Hindi. As I had studied Hindi in my college about four decades ago, I could give him directions to reach the hospital.

If someone in Tamil Nadu says people should learn Hindi or English, he or she is treated with scorn. Unfortunately, linguistic fanaticism has taken deep root in the State. Experience is the best teacher. But the price you pay to learn from experience is high.

S. Narayanan,

Ramanathapuram

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/letters/article3919382.ece

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:50 pm

I agree with Justice Katju’s views on learning Hindi. Although Tamil is one of the oldest languages and is rich in literature, it is a regional language. Learning Hindi does not mean Tamil is given less importance. Since I am from Tamil Nadu, I love Tamil more than I love English and Hindi. But to communicate with people outside, Hindi is essential. We must learn Hindi with pleasure.

S. Pavithra,

Coimbatore

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/letters/learning-hindi/article3946501.ece

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

by Hellsangel Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:10 pm

panini press wrote:Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

Great glut Admin, you have no idea how much he craves your approval!

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:30 pm

Good point. In order to save him future trouble, I hereby give him my unconditional, irrevocable approval in perpetuity. If he says something is true, it must be the truth, because otherwise he wouldn't say that it is true.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:33 pm

panini press wrote:Good point. In order to save him future trouble, I hereby give him my unconditional, irrevocable approval in perpetuity. If he says something is true, it must be the truth, because otherwise he wouldn't say that it is true.

u must be seriously delusional to think i respect you. if you really want me to respect you than you need to give up your covert support for regionalism, communalism, and casteism.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:33 pm

panini press wrote:Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

i could not say No to Max since he and I go back a long ways.

by Hellsangel Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:35 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

i could not say No to Max since he and I go back a long ways.

Oh! Now he is trying for the great glut Admin's love by playing the jealousy card!

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:38 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

i could not say No to Max since he and I go back a long ways.

Oh! Now he is trying for the great glut Admin's love by playing the jealousy card!

since his Master is getting screwed, the slave has to show up.

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:40 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

i could not say No to Max since he and I go back a long ways.

Oh! Now he is trying for the great glut Admin's love by playing the jealousy card!

since his Master is getting screwed, the slave has to show up.

If you say so, it must be true.

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Good point. In order to save him future trouble, I hereby give him my unconditional, irrevocable approval in perpetuity. If he says something is true, it must be the truth, because otherwise he wouldn't say that it is true.

u must be seriously delusional to think i respect you. if you really want me to respect you than you need to give up your covert support for regionalism, communalism, and casteism.

If you say so, it must be true. I am panini press, and I approve this message.

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:48 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Awesome, we are back on track! For a second, you had me worried there.

i could not say No to Max since he and I go back a long ways.

Oh! Now he is trying for the great glut Admin's love by playing the jealousy card!

since his Master is getting screwed, the slave has to show up.
~~If you say so, it must be true.~~
Rashmun, i love playing tag-team with my slave.

*Corrected*

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:49 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

i could not say No to Max since he and I go back a long ways.

Oh! Now he is trying for the great glut Admin's love by playing the jealousy card!

since his Master is getting screwed, the slave has to show up.
~~If you say so, it must be true.~~
Rashmun, i love playing tag-team with my slave.

*Corrected*

If you say so...

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:52 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Good point. In order to save him future trouble, I hereby give him my unconditional, irrevocable approval in perpetuity. If he says something is true, it must be the truth, because otherwise he wouldn't say that it is true.

u must be seriously delusional to think i respect you. if you really want me to respect you than you need to give up your covert support for regionalism, communalism, and casteism.
~~If you say so, it must be true. I am panini press, and I approve this message.~~ i agree that i am a casteist because i have always said that caste based quotas should continue indefinitely. i am communal because my ancestors were roughed up by Nizams, hence i now get my kicks and my revenge by calling the first language of many south indian muslims 'Duckini' instead of 'Dakhini'. i am also a regionalist, although even here i am a telugu regionalist. my great desire is to eliminate the Hyderabadi Dakhini language from Hyderabad and to replace it by Telugu. By the way, i am from Telangana region of Andhra and some people call my language 'Telangana Telugu' which they are happy to shorten to Turdu since it contains an enormous amount of urdu words. I get really mad at such people.

*Corrected*

by Idéfix Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:41 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Good point. In order to save him future trouble, I hereby give him my unconditional, irrevocable approval in perpetuity. If he says something is true, it must be the truth, because otherwise he wouldn't say that it is true.

u must be seriously delusional to think i respect you. if you really want me to respect you than you need to give up your covert support for regionalism, communalism, and casteism.
~~If you say so, it must be true. I am panini press, and I approve this message.~~ i agree that i am a casteist because i have always said that caste based quotas should continue indefinitely. i am communal because my ancestors were roughed up by Nizams, hence i now get my kicks and my revenge by calling the first language of many south indian muslims 'Duckini' instead of 'Dakhini'. i am also a regionalist, although even here i am a telugu regionalist. my great desire is to eliminate the Hyderabadi Dakhini language from Hyderabad and to replace it by Telugu. By the way, i am from Telangana region of Andhra and some people call my language 'Telangana Telugu' which they are happy to shorten to Turdu since it contains an enormous amount of urdu words. I get really mad at such people.

*Corrected*

Yes. If you say so, it must be true.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:42 pm

Many of the ones you cited are frikkin Brahmins.

They don't amount to anything in TN politics.

(Dont cite JJ to counter my point - nada)

by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:43 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Many of the ones you cited are frikkin Brahmins.

They don't amount to anything in TN politics.

(Dont cite JJ to counter my point - nada)

How can you tell they are brahmins just by their first names? Also, are the majority of tamil brahmins pro-hindi?

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:56 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Many of the ones you cited are frikkin Brahmins.

They don't amount to anything in TN politics.

(Dont cite JJ to counter my point - nada)

How can you tell they are brahmins just by their first names? Also, are the majority of tamil brahmins pro-hindi?

One needs the power of Dhrishti (and of course a little bit of common sense, knowledge, and at least an average IQ).

Most Brahmins are pro-hindi..as it is yet another tool to survive in the salary world.

by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:Good point. In order to save him future trouble, I hereby give him my unconditional, irrevocable approval in perpetuity. If he says something is true, it must be the truth, because otherwise he wouldn't say that it is true.

u must be seriously delusional to think i respect you. if you really want me to respect you than you need to give up your covert support for regionalism, communalism, and casteism.
~~If you say so, it must be true. I am panini press, and I approve this message.~~ i agree that i am a casteist because i have always said that caste based quotas should continue indefinitely. i am communal because my ancestors were roughed up by ~~Nizams~~ razakars, hence i now get my kicks and my revenge by calling the first language of many south indian muslims 'Duckini' instead of 'Dakhini'. i am also a regionalist, although even here i am a telugu regionalist. my great desire is to eliminate the Hyderabadi Dakhini language from Hyderabad and to replace it by Telugu. By the way, i am from Telangana region of Andhra and some people call my language 'Telangana Telugu' which they are happy to shorten to Turdu since it contains an enormous amount of urdu words. I get really mad at such people.

*Corrected*

*Correction to the correction*

by Kayalvizhi Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:22 am

>> Notice that they are talking in Hindi and not in Gujarati. Why so? Because the common man of Gujarat understands Hindi

Rashmun. Think again. There is another reason. If you figure it, post here.

by Kayalvizhi Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:24 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Exactly like Hindi. An imperial, alien language with no local roots being thrust (at taxpayer's expense) down unwilling throats.

I am impressec at Merlot

by Kayalvizhi Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:26 am

Rashmun wrote:Hindi is not a foreign language because of the existence of the southern indian language Dakhini

I am unimpressed at Rasmun

by Guest Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:27 am

Kayal Vizhi,
what do you know about the Indian language known as Dakhini?

by Guest Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:28 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Hindi is not a foreign language because of the existence of the southern indian language Dakhini

I am unimpressed at Rasmun

your ignorance about the greatness of the Dakhini language is excused.

by Kayalvizhi Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:51 am

Rashmun wrote:Kayal Vizhi,
what do you know about the Indian language known as Dakhini?

Never heard of it before you started posting.

by Ponniyin Selvan Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:01 am

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Ok, then why talk of only Hindi as the link language. There's English too. Many urban Indians across the length and breadth of the country speak the language, including natives of each of the cities. So it is very much part of the native culture. And best of all, it's a link language to the world as well. So the economic prospects become that much brighter once someone learns English. "Think rationally about learning English and it will make sense". Vot?
i think with rapid urbanization and rising literacy, english may emerge as the link language contrary to popular perception that hindi fits the bill. *changing my own opinion* it's a FACT that even ordinary folks in south speak rudimentary english so it is not something that cannot be replicated in the north or will not gradually happen in the north.

Really. That's good. English is already a link language between educated folks within South India and between educated SIs and NIs.
English has multiple advantages of being a link language than any other .

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