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Nobler than a Nobel
http://www.thehindu.com/education/careers/nobler-than-a-nobel/article4136659.ece
What dictates your life choices? Trophies, awards, public recognition? Or a desire to excel, fuelled by passion?
Degrees, awards, honours, titles and Who’s Who lists occupy a pre-eminent position in the Indian psyche. While we prize accolades and flaunt laurels won by Indians, especially those bestowed by foreign hands, we define ‘success’ in very narrow terms. During a child’s scholastic career, success is synonymous with marks a student obtains. However, even in adulthood, we continue to place a premium on external indices. The number of zeroes in a person’s salary is directly proportional to a person’s status in our social hierarchy. ‘Success’ in our country is synonymous with public recognition, and, at times, even adulation. By thus paying tribute to achievement, we fail to nurture genuine passions and intrinsic drives. We motivate children to succeed by conventional standards, but do not necessarily inspire them to excel.
Can conditioning stop?
From a very early age, we instil children with the notion that how they appear to others is crucial. So, when a test is returned in class, students vie for the book with the highest mark, not to read and learn how the topper framed her answers, but to see if they can haggle with the teacher for an extra half mark. Furthermore, when life-altering decisions are made, we give more emphasis to societal expectations than a child’s own proclivities. As a result, many students end up in fields that they are not ideally suited for. All top-performers in Board exams are expected to pursue engineering, medicine or economics regardless of their interests. As these coveted fields lead to jobs with lucrative salaries and high status, society expects all bright children to follow the beaten path. So when Jairam, a topper opted for history, he was derided by his family and friends. “What will you do with a degree in history?” is a question that he heard repeatedly. When Jairam emphatically stated that he wanted to be a professor and pursue research on ancient Dravidian scripts, he was scoffed at.
Only when ‘knowledge’ is tagged with a prestigious award does it merit attention. Venkatraman Ramakrishnan, on his first visit to India after winning the Nobel, remarked that prior to all the hype and hoopla surrounding the prize, less than 300 people attended his lecture in Chennai. However, following the Nobel buzz, over 3000 people thronged to hear him. The surge in interest was not due to a sudden spate of curiosity in science but with a mindset that creates and deifies ‘stars’. The media further propagates a culture of glitz and glamour in every domain. Hardly any newspaper or magazine covered Ramakrishnan’s work before the Nobel; though after the award, they clamoured for his opinion on matters unrelated to his field of expertise.
Predilections vs Prizes
When a student asked Ramakrishnan how students could emulate him and win a Nobel for the country, pat came the reply: “That is a wrong question to ask…You can’t go into science thinking of a Nobel Prize. You can only go into science because you’re interested in it.” The student’s question points to a cultural climate where inherent proclivities and predilections are sidelined for prestigious prizes.
When we overplay an award, we present a distorted view of what an achievement actually entails. Perseverance and passion, the key ingredients for producing great works, be they in art, science or business, are seldom highlighted. The instant stardom that an award bestows does not reflect the years of toil— the frustration, angst and sheer hard work— that go into producing a substantive piece of work in any field.
In a state of flow
In fact, a fixation on medals and trophies dilutes intrinsic motivation, the most important catalyst for doing notable work. Psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi coined the term ‘flow’ to describe the mental state where a person is so immersed in an activity that he loses track of time and a sense of self. A person in a flow state is so absorbed in his work that distracting emotions do not cloud his mind.
Flow cannot be achieved if a person is averse to failure. Only when a person fails and is motivated to try and try again, can flow be attained. In fact, a person in flow does not even think he is failing when a desired result does not emerge, but feels he is learning. Moreover, flow can be experienced in any activity — from gardening to parenting to music to ruminating over philosophical conundrums. What matters is that the person is fully engaged in an activity that is optimally challenging and feels in control of the situation.
Thus, youngsters who are at a fork road in their lives should extricate themselves from societal straitjackets that force them to select courses based on “what people will say.” Instead, students should reflect on their signature strengths and interests and pursue courses and careers that they find intrinsically fulfilling. Educators and parents also have to make a concerted effort to cultivate a conducive climate where students do not feel the need to ask, “What must we do to win a Nobel?”
The author is the Director, PRAYATNA.
What dictates your life choices? Trophies, awards, public recognition? Or a desire to excel, fuelled by passion?
Degrees, awards, honours, titles and Who’s Who lists occupy a pre-eminent position in the Indian psyche. While we prize accolades and flaunt laurels won by Indians, especially those bestowed by foreign hands, we define ‘success’ in very narrow terms. During a child’s scholastic career, success is synonymous with marks a student obtains. However, even in adulthood, we continue to place a premium on external indices. The number of zeroes in a person’s salary is directly proportional to a person’s status in our social hierarchy. ‘Success’ in our country is synonymous with public recognition, and, at times, even adulation. By thus paying tribute to achievement, we fail to nurture genuine passions and intrinsic drives. We motivate children to succeed by conventional standards, but do not necessarily inspire them to excel.
Can conditioning stop?
From a very early age, we instil children with the notion that how they appear to others is crucial. So, when a test is returned in class, students vie for the book with the highest mark, not to read and learn how the topper framed her answers, but to see if they can haggle with the teacher for an extra half mark. Furthermore, when life-altering decisions are made, we give more emphasis to societal expectations than a child’s own proclivities. As a result, many students end up in fields that they are not ideally suited for. All top-performers in Board exams are expected to pursue engineering, medicine or economics regardless of their interests. As these coveted fields lead to jobs with lucrative salaries and high status, society expects all bright children to follow the beaten path. So when Jairam, a topper opted for history, he was derided by his family and friends. “What will you do with a degree in history?” is a question that he heard repeatedly. When Jairam emphatically stated that he wanted to be a professor and pursue research on ancient Dravidian scripts, he was scoffed at.
Only when ‘knowledge’ is tagged with a prestigious award does it merit attention. Venkatraman Ramakrishnan, on his first visit to India after winning the Nobel, remarked that prior to all the hype and hoopla surrounding the prize, less than 300 people attended his lecture in Chennai. However, following the Nobel buzz, over 3000 people thronged to hear him. The surge in interest was not due to a sudden spate of curiosity in science but with a mindset that creates and deifies ‘stars’. The media further propagates a culture of glitz and glamour in every domain. Hardly any newspaper or magazine covered Ramakrishnan’s work before the Nobel; though after the award, they clamoured for his opinion on matters unrelated to his field of expertise.
Predilections vs Prizes
When a student asked Ramakrishnan how students could emulate him and win a Nobel for the country, pat came the reply: “That is a wrong question to ask…You can’t go into science thinking of a Nobel Prize. You can only go into science because you’re interested in it.” The student’s question points to a cultural climate where inherent proclivities and predilections are sidelined for prestigious prizes.
When we overplay an award, we present a distorted view of what an achievement actually entails. Perseverance and passion, the key ingredients for producing great works, be they in art, science or business, are seldom highlighted. The instant stardom that an award bestows does not reflect the years of toil— the frustration, angst and sheer hard work— that go into producing a substantive piece of work in any field.
In a state of flow
In fact, a fixation on medals and trophies dilutes intrinsic motivation, the most important catalyst for doing notable work. Psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi coined the term ‘flow’ to describe the mental state where a person is so immersed in an activity that he loses track of time and a sense of self. A person in a flow state is so absorbed in his work that distracting emotions do not cloud his mind.
Flow cannot be achieved if a person is averse to failure. Only when a person fails and is motivated to try and try again, can flow be attained. In fact, a person in flow does not even think he is failing when a desired result does not emerge, but feels he is learning. Moreover, flow can be experienced in any activity — from gardening to parenting to music to ruminating over philosophical conundrums. What matters is that the person is fully engaged in an activity that is optimally challenging and feels in control of the situation.
Thus, youngsters who are at a fork road in their lives should extricate themselves from societal straitjackets that force them to select courses based on “what people will say.” Instead, students should reflect on their signature strengths and interests and pursue courses and careers that they find intrinsically fulfilling. Educators and parents also have to make a concerted effort to cultivate a conducive climate where students do not feel the need to ask, “What must we do to win a Nobel?”
The author is the Director, PRAYATNA.
FluteHolder- Posts : 2355
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Re: Nobler than a Nobel
bump.. enjoyed reading this.
It will take eons to change the mentality of parents and kids.
It will take eons to change the mentality of parents and kids.
doofus_maximus- Posts : 1903
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: Nobler than a Nobel
I think the kids start good at young age but when they are in high school, parents and friends, uncles, etc confuse them and force them to $ oriented careers rather than what they like/enjoy.
FluteHolder- Posts : 2355
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Re: Nobler than a Nobel
I agree with the spirit of the article, but was struck by an irony.
The irony is that India is way underrepresented in number of Nobel prizes won, compared to its share of world population and GDP. India is home to a sixth of the world's people, so on average an Indian should win one of the six Nobels awarded every year. If you want to account for India's relative poverty: it generates 6% of the world's GDP in PPP terms, so it should be winning one out of every 16-17 Nobels, so an Indian ought to win a prize every 3 years. Instead, India won one Nobel since the turn of the millennium. It's not as if Indian students are asking themselves, "what must we do to win a Nobel," and doing those things effectively.Educators and parents also have to make a concerted effort to cultivate a conducive climate where students do not feel the need to ask, “What must we do to win a Nobel?”
Idéfix- Posts : 8808
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Re: Nobler than a Nobel
We Indians should not be worrying about winning a nobel prize or a gold medal in olympics or even winning the world cup in cricket. Our only focus should be to provide jobs, clean water, decent housing and atleast a high school education to the hundreds of millions of our fellow Indians who are impoverished.
Let us at least develop to the level of Malyasia or Indonesia.
Let us at least develop to the level of Malyasia or Indonesia.
Rishi- Posts : 5129
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Rishi wrote:We Indians should not be worrying about winning a nobel prize or a gold medal in olympics or even winning the world cup in cricket. Our only focus should be to provide jobs, clean water, decent housing and atleast a high school education to the hundreds of millions of our fellow Indians who are impoverished.
Let us at least develop to the level of Malyasia or Indonesia.
here is a brief bit on the book about chandra by kameshwar wali. in an interview, chandra narrates a conversation from a long time ago to kameshwar wali:
roger penrose was in pakistan some years ago giving lectures on some of the very new developments in relativity. i (i.e. chandra) overheard a conversation between him and ray sachs.
"well roger", he (sachs) said, "you (penrose) were in pakistan trying to distort people's views. why do you want those poor people to do useless things?"
somehow this remark of ray sachs annoyed me (chandra). i turned around and said to him, "do you mean relativity is good enough for us, you and me, but the pakistanis are not good enough for it?"
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
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FluteHolder wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/education/careers/nobler-than-a-nobel/article4136659.ece
What dictates your life choices? Trophies, awards, public recognition? Or a desire to excel, fuelled by passion?
When a student asked Ramakrishnan how students could emulate him and win a Nobel for the country, pat came the reply: “That is a wrong question to ask…You can’t go into science thinking of a Nobel Prize. You can only go into science because you’re interested in it.” The student’s question points to a cultural climate where inherent proclivities and predilections are sidelined for prestigious prizes.
This is so very correct. People tend to count the potential rewards - with the 100% assurance which is statistically impossible - before even picking a field or beginning the work.
The closest analogy I give are: do you want to marry someone with the guarantee of 2 sons and 1 daughter ? Or, does one get the assurance of an Olympic medal before deciding to be a track and field athlete?
While people understand the fallacy in the above examples, they resort to the same old Indian conditioned method.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
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Re: Nobler than a Nobel
FluteHolder wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/education/careers/nobler-than-a-nobel/article4136659.ece
What dictates your life choices? Trophies, awards, public recognition? Or a desire to excel, fuelled by passion?
Degrees, awards, honours, titles and Who’s Who lists occupy a pre-eminent position in the Indian psyche. While we prize accolades and flaunt laurels won by Indians, especially those bestowed by foreign hands, we define ‘success’ in very narrow terms. During a child’s scholastic career, success is synonymous with marks a student obtains. However, even in adulthood, we continue to place a premium on external indices. The number of zeroes in a person’s salary is directly proportional to a person’s status in our social hierarchy. ‘Success’ in our country is synonymous with public recognition, and, at times, even adulation. By thus paying tribute to achievement, we fail to nurture genuine passions and intrinsic drives. We motivate children to succeed by conventional standards, but do not necessarily inspire them to excel.
Can conditioning stop?
From a very early age, we instil children with the notion that how they appear to others is crucial. So, when a test is returned in class, students vie for the book with the highest mark, not to read and learn how the topper framed her answers, but to see if they can haggle with the teacher for an extra half mark. Furthermore, when life-altering decisions are made, we give more emphasis to societal expectations than a child’s own proclivities. As a result, many students end up in fields that they are not ideally suited for. All top-performers in Board exams are expected to pursue engineering, medicine or economics regardless of their interests. As these coveted fields lead to jobs with lucrative salaries and high status, society expects all bright children to follow the beaten path. So when Jairam, a topper opted for history, he was derided by his family and friends. “What will you do with a degree in history?” is a question that he heard repeatedly. When Jairam emphatically stated that he wanted to be a professor and pursue research on ancient Dravidian scripts, he was scoffed at.
Only when ‘knowledge’ is tagged with a prestigious award does it merit attention. Venkatraman Ramakrishnan, on his first visit to India after winning the Nobel, remarked that prior to all the hype and hoopla surrounding the prize, less than 300 people attended his lecture in Chennai. However, following the Nobel buzz, over 3000 people thronged to hear him. The surge in interest was not due to a sudden spate of curiosity in science but with a mindset that creates and deifies ‘stars’. The media further propagates a culture of glitz and glamour in every domain. Hardly any newspaper or magazine covered Ramakrishnan’s work before the Nobel; though after the award, they clamoured for his opinion on matters unrelated to his field of expertise.
Predilections vs Prizes
When a student asked Ramakrishnan how students could emulate him and win a Nobel for the country, pat came the reply: “That is a wrong question to ask…You can’t go into science thinking of a Nobel Prize. You can only go into science because you’re interested in it.” The student’s question points to a cultural climate where inherent proclivities and predilections are sidelined for prestigious prizes.
When we overplay an award, we present a distorted view of what an achievement actually entails. Perseverance and passion, the key ingredients for producing great works, be they in art, science or business, are seldom highlighted. The instant stardom that an award bestows does not reflect the years of toil— the frustration, angst and sheer hard work— that go into producing a substantive piece of work in any field.
In a state of flow
In fact, a fixation on medals and trophies dilutes intrinsic motivation, the most important catalyst for doing notable work. Psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi coined the term ‘flow’ to describe the mental state where a person is so immersed in an activity that he loses track of time and a sense of self. A person in a flow state is so absorbed in his work that distracting emotions do not cloud his mind.
Flow cannot be achieved if a person is averse to failure. Only when a person fails and is motivated to try and try again, can flow be attained. In fact, a person in flow does not even think he is failing when a desired result does not emerge, but feels he is learning. Moreover, flow can be experienced in any activity — from gardening to parenting to music to ruminating over philosophical conundrums. What matters is that the person is fully engaged in an activity that is optimally challenging and feels in control of the situation.
Thus, youngsters who are at a fork road in their lives should extricate themselves from societal straitjackets that force them to select courses based on “what people will say.” Instead, students should reflect on their signature strengths and interests and pursue courses and careers that they find intrinsically fulfilling. Educators and parents also have to make a concerted effort to cultivate a conducive climate where students do not feel the need to ask, “What must we do to win a Nobel?”
The author is the Director, PRAYATNA.
>>>>The 'flow' referenced to above is almost a spiritual experience, no question. However, the idea of pursuing one's passions is a convenience that is directly proportional to the wealth of the society one lives in. The middle class engineering/medicine obsession of the last generation has, I am guessing, probably waned quite a bit now.
P.S. The Nobel question is pretty absurd, but take consolation that at least it was not the Guinness Book of Records
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