Learning Tamil through Hindi: Taking Tamil to the Hindi heartland

Hellsangel wrote:In your opinion, how many Indian languages do you speak?

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:In your opinion, how many Indian languages do you speak?

why, I would assume all the fowl languages

Rashmun wrote:After graduating and post graduating in Hindi, Sundaram took up the post of lecturer in Raja's College, Pudukkottai. This proved to be a turning point in Sundaram's life, for it was here that he met Sanskrit scholar Pudukottai A. Srinivasa Raghavan. “Srinivasa Raghavan asked me to study the Divya Prabandham, and later suggested that I do my Ph.D in Hindi, making a comparative study of Andal and Meera.”

Translating Andal's works into Hindi was not easy. Sundaram came up with Sanskrit equivalents for Tamil terms, but it was important to find the Hindi equivalents. “My guide at Jabalpur University, Dr. Udaynarayan Tiwari, helped me.”...

While Sundaram's mentor, Srinivasa Raghavan, had already translated Divya Prabandham into Hindi, Tamil Saivite literature remained untouched. When Sundaram was asked by Visva Bharati, Santiniketan, to do it, he welcomed the opportunity. His translations of Tiruvachagam, Appar's and Sundarar's verses have been published. The manuscript for the translation of Gnanasambandar's work is ready...

Sundaram is at a loss to understand why language should be a bone of contention. There's been so much give and take between languages, that there is no need to fight, he feels. “In Karnataka, there is a sect of Brahmins in areas like Subrahmanya, Ramanaathapura and Rudrapatnam, who speak a very old language called Sankethi. It is a combination of Tamil and Kannada. These people are great Sanskrit and Kannada scholars, but at home they speak Sankethi. Their contribution to Kannada matches that of the Mandayam Iyengars, whose love for Tamil Vaishnavite literature is well known,” he observes.

To omit bhakti literature while talking of Tamil literature is unacceptable to him. “Let's keep politics out of literature,” he says. He writes a column for a Hindi daily called ‘Learning Tamil through Hindi.' “There's been an excellent response to the column.”

His ambition? To translate Sangam works like Ettuthogai, Pathupaattu and Padinenkeezhkanakku.

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2010/10/29/stories/2010102950420300.htm

Rashmun wrote:In my opinion all Indians need to be multi-lingual. We must leverage the opportunity to learn different Indian languages.

Rashmun wrote:In my opinion all Indians need to be multi-lingual. We must leverage the opportunity to learn different Indian languages.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:In my opinion all Indians need to be multi-lingual. We must leverage the opportunity to learn different Indian languages.

many of us already are multi-lingual. i suggest you stand in front of a mirror, look into it, and read what you wrote out aloud.

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:In my opinion all Indians need to be multi-lingual. We must leverage the opportunity to learn different Indian languages.

many of us already are multi-lingual. i suggest you stand in front of a mirror, look into it, and read what you wrote out aloud.

The argument in this thread is about policy decisions with respect to education in India. It is not about individuals.

Speaking for myself: it is true that i can only speak english and hindi. Having said that, there are several other Indian languages which i can understand (although not speak). Just because i did not get the opportunity to learn other languages does not mean that the younger generation should have to go through the same curriculum. Furthermore, it should be appreciated that i suffered from a severe speech impediment in my younger days. My priority was to cure my speech problem* and not learn how to speak multiple languages.

*for which i received very little help from the various speech therapists i consulted.

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:In my opinion all Indians need to be multi-lingual. We must leverage the opportunity to learn different Indian languages.

many of us already are multi-lingual. i suggest you stand in front of a mirror, look into it, and read what you wrote out aloud.

The argument in this thread is about policy decisions with respect to education in India. It is not about individuals.

Speaking for myself: it is true that i can only speak english and hindi. Having said that, there are several other Indian languages which i can understand (although not speak). Just because i did not get the opportunity to learn other languages does not mean that the younger generation should have to go through the same curriculum. Furthermore, it should be appreciated that i suffered from a severe speech impediment in my younger days. My priority was to cure my speech problem* and not learn how to speak multiple languages.

*for which i received very little help from the various speech therapists i consulted.

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

Rashmun wrote:

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

There is no such word as Hindian. The correct word for a person whose first language is Hindi is Hindustani or Hindavi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_people

Tamil Tribune, as always, is wrong again.

Hellsangel wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

There is no such word as Hindian. The correct word for a person whose first language is Hindi is Hindustani or Hindavi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_people

Tamil Tribune, as always, is wrong again.

Wiktionary says otherwise. This forum overwhelmingly voted that you are one.

Rashmun wrote:

this reminds me of the saying 'one fool can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer'.

Hellsangel wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

this reminds me of the saying 'one fool can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer'.

In this case it would be slightly modified to:

One fool can post more copy-paste articles than ten wise men can vote.

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

goodcitizn wrote:

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

Yes.

Rashmun wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

Yes.

Every Indian should be able to read kambaramayanam in the original. Why must you be so selfish?

bw wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Kayalvizhi wrote:I do not see any purpose in Taking Tamil to Hindi heartland. There is no use for Tamil there. It is a useless language there except for a few who want to learn a new language and literature.

Instead force Hindians coming to work in TN to learn Tamil.

Yes.

Every Indian should be able to read kambaramayanam in the original. Why must you be so selfish?

i suggest every hindian learn to pronounce 'sambaar" correctly before attempting higher quests.