Why would anyone not wish to be conversant with the world's second most spoken language?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:in the last year or so, i've seen a distinct change in how non-tamilian southern indians react to hindi pushing on this board. it's a good bet therefore that out there in the real world too, people have had enough of that nonsense.

kinnera wrote:probably is a mongrel, but was as sanskritized as other indian languages, afaik. Looks like the sanskritized hindi made way to highly urdufied hindi, thanks to the bollywood dialogue writers.

Kayalvizhi wrote:Max,

Here is some news for you. Madurai City Corporation Commissioner ordered that Hindi street name signs be installed in the major streets. I saw this in Facebook, it referred to Dinamani-January 21, 2013.

Send an e-mail to Chieh minister that it is against the state 2-language formula and ask her to order the city commissioner to stop the nonsense. Madurai is still part of TN.

Rishi, write to your favorite politician on this.

I think the city commissioners name is Sadagopan. What state he from?

Chief Minister's email: mlasrirangam@tn.gov.in

Kayalvizhi wrote:i told u where i found.

tell me if i ever lie on this forum

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kayalvizhi wrote:i told u where i found.

tell me if i ever lie on this forum

i don't think you deliberately lie, but i think your standards of proof to pass on hearsay news stories that fit your agenda are fairly minimal. in other words if you hear something that might help you in furthering your agenda, you share it with us without actually bothering to verify if it's actually true.

panini press wrote:

kinnera wrote:probably is a mongrel, but was as sanskritized as other indian languages, afaik. Looks like the sanskritized hindi made way to highly urdufied hindi, thanks to the bollywood dialogue writers.

The Sanskritization of the "standard" register of Hindi is a relatively recent phenomenon owing much to Akashvani and Doordarshan. In their original forms, the vernacular languages of the Gangetic plain had a strong Urdu influence for a very long time indeed. Premchand's language doesn't sound much like the taat-shrees and kintu-parantus of BR Chopra's Mahabharat. It is after Partition that the two "standard" registers, Hindi and Urdu, got aggressively Sanskritized and Arabo-Persianized respectively, for mostly political reasons.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrupted? i had always thought of hindi as a mongrel language right at birth.

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrupted? i had always thought of hindi as a mongrel language right at birth.

Sri Lankan Tamils inform me that their tamil is the pure tamil. They say the tamil spoken in TN is a corrupted variant of the pure tamil.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrupted? i had always thought of hindi as a mongrel language right at birth.

Sri Lankan Tamils inform me that their tamil is the pure tamil. They say the tamil spoken in TN is a corrupted variant of the pure tamil.

that may or may not be true, but why is this a response to my comment?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrupted? i had always thought of hindi as a mongrel language right at birth.

Sri Lankan Tamils inform me that their tamil is the pure tamil. They say the tamil spoken in TN is a corrupted variant of the pure tamil.

that may or may not be true, but why is this a response to my comment?

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrupted? i had always thought of hindi as a mongrel language right at birth.

Sri Lankan Tamils inform me that their tamil is the pure tamil. They say the tamil spoken in TN is a corrupted variant of the pure tamil.

that may or may not be true, but why is this a response to my comment?

I wanted to know your opinion on this. I recall you mentioning that words of Sanskrit origin should be eschewed in literary tamil (contrary to the approach taken by Subramanya Bharati).