'You Bleeding Hearts should leave us alone': SL Tamils to Indian Tamils

Rashmun wrote:Few Tamils in Sri Lanka care for the blood-brotherly breast-beating in Tamil Nadu. “Empty noise,” says former LTTE spokesman Daya Master, speaking from Jaffna. “We want harmony and reconciliation with Sinhalas. Elections are due in September, and we’ll find a solution wit­hin Sri Lanka. These bleeding hearts should leave us alone.” Construction workers, shopkeepers, former LTTE cadres—across class and background, they say Chennai’s politicians have done nothing for them. The cacophony is mere political play. Sri Lanka is on the mend: Tamil Nadu and the Tamil diaspora should help the process or leave them alone.

At a hotel in Mannar, Kamal (name changed), a 21-year-old bellhop, asks me fearfully if Prabhakaran is alive in Tamil Nadu. His father had died a Tiger, and he and his brother were forcibly recruited by the LTTE. Videos of “Prabhakaran alive”, supposedly shot in Chennai, have left many young Tamils like him, struggling to begin anew, frightened. He is happy working for a Sinhala proprietor, has “a good room and a good salary” and says “samadhanam (peace) is the best thing”. Over the week, he has made acquaintance with Malinga, a taxi driver who fought as a Sri Lankan soldier. Malinga is on his first trip to the north after the last days of the conflict, in which he saw many of his mates die. At parting, Kamal and Malinga shake hands, slap each other’s backs, and—just a trifle awkwardly—embrace.

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?284687

Kris wrote:

Rashmun wrote:Few Tamils in Sri Lanka care for the blood-brotherly breast-beating in Tamil Nadu. “Empty noise,” says former LTTE spokesman Daya Master, speaking from Jaffna. “We want harmony and reconciliation with Sinhalas. Elections are due in September, and we’ll find a solution wit­hin Sri Lanka. These bleeding hearts should leave us alone.” Construction workers, shopkeepers, former LTTE cadres—across class and background, they say Chennai’s politicians have done nothing for them. The cacophony is mere political play. Sri Lanka is on the mend: Tamil Nadu and the Tamil diaspora should help the process or leave them alone.

At a hotel in Mannar, Kamal (name changed), a 21-year-old bellhop, asks me fearfully if Prabhakaran is alive in Tamil Nadu. His father had died a Tiger, and he and his brother were forcibly recruited by the LTTE. Videos of “Prabhakaran alive”, supposedly shot in Chennai, have left many young Tamils like him, struggling to begin anew, frightened. He is happy working for a Sinhala proprietor, has “a good room and a good salary” and says “samadhanam (peace) is the best thing”. Over the week, he has made acquaintance with Malinga, a taxi driver who fought as a Sri Lankan soldier. Malinga is on his first trip to the north after the last days of the conflict, in which he saw many of his mates die. At parting, Kamal and Malinga shake hands, slap each other’s backs, and—just a trifle awkwardly—embrace.

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?284687

>>>>SL's humanitarian atrocities toward the Tamils, an ethnic minority, now stand exposed. The wiping out of the LTTE, very much a right move, also has taken away its excuse for its treatment of Tamils. It can no longer conflate the legitimate grievances of an ethnic minority with the actions of a terrorist organization. India's approach and stance on this on this should be to do the right thing and not get this mixed up with getting into a pissing contest with JJ/MK et al. BTW, they may have their own agendas, but in the case of SL, their stance to force the issue is the right one. Incidentally, if India wants to be seen as a regional superpower, taking a firm stance on this now would help in the long run. If it doesn't, it will simply be seen as a thirld world upstart playing pretend at this superpower game.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:nothing from any former LTTE members is credible. the LTTE lost credibility a long time ago. the LTTE doesn't speak for sri lankan tamils. not any longer.

Rashmun wrote:

Any atrocities committed on SL Tamils were by the SL army when they were going about eliminating the LTTE. Similar atrocities were committed on SL tamils when the IPKF were operating in Northern SL. It is now time for reconciliation.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Any atrocities committed on SL Tamils were by the SL army when they were going about eliminating the LTTE. Similar atrocities were committed on SL tamils when the IPKF were operating in Northern SL. It is now time for reconciliation.

your tendency to pardon war crimes is very troubling, but it shouldn't surprise anyone because you have a tendency to glorify strongmen and dictators.

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Any atrocities committed on SL Tamils were by the SL army when they were going about eliminating the LTTE. Similar atrocities were committed on SL tamils when the IPKF were operating in Northern SL. It is now time for reconciliation.

your tendency to pardon war crimes is very troubling, but it shouldn't surprise anyone because you have a tendency to glorify strongmen and dictators.

Do not distort my words. What I am saying is that when an army is sent to quell a rebellion or insurgency it is inevitable that some excesses will occur.

Why I like people like Kemal Ataturk is the subject of a different discussion.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Any atrocities committed on SL Tamils were by the SL army when they were going about eliminating the LTTE. Similar atrocities were committed on SL tamils when the IPKF were operating in Northern SL. It is now time for reconciliation.

your tendency to pardon war crimes is very troubling, but it shouldn't surprise anyone because you have a tendency to glorify strongmen and dictators.

Do not distort my words. What I am saying is that when an army is sent to quell a rebellion or insurgency it is inevitable that some excesses will occur.

Why I like people like Kemal Ataturk is the subject of a different discussion.

it's the same basic attitude that lies at the root of apathy towards war crimes in the name of "quelling" a rebellion and providing vacuum service to strongmen.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:nothing from any former LTTE members is credible. the LTTE lost credibility a long time ago. the LTTE doesn't speak for sri lankan tamils. not any longer.

Rashmun wrote:In the extract of the article I gave in the OP it is mentioned that it is not just the former LTTE members who are articulating this view but SL Tamils from myriad backgrounds.

Kayalvizhi wrote:

Rashmun wrote:In the extract of the article I gave in the OP it is mentioned that it is not just the former LTTE members who are articulating this view but SL Tamils from myriad backgrounds.

You expect them to say anything contradicting SL government as SL soldiers are watching?

Kris wrote: if power sharing can be brought about, that may be the best thing that could happen to this ethnic minority.

Kayalvizhi wrote:

Kris wrote: if power sharing can be brought about, that may be the best thing that could happen to this ethnic minority.

It has not happened for 65 years. It is not happening now. It will not happen ever.]

Commander had the right solution. He almost acheved it in 2000 but for Indian assistance. Do you know India worked withPak AF to to deliver weapoins to Lanka? (According to Jane's Intelligence Digest, published in Britain, weapons and ammunition, including artillery shells and multi-barrel rocket launchers, were airlifted in an emergency operation from Karachi to Colombo in May with New Delhi's cooperation)

Kayalvizhi wrote:Commander's approach is the correct one. He is killed in battle. You cannot use him as an excuse. 4 yeafrs have passed. Anything even remotely good happebn?> No.

Kayalvizhi wrote:I know you and your co-thinker Rashmun had a field day when I was away although people like max and upp gave fitting replies.