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Post by Impedimenta Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:11 am

what a voice!

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Post by Maria S Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:26 am

Good Morning I-ma!

Nice to see you around.

RIP Mr. PBS. Among my favs..the evergreen..."Kalangalil aval vasantham"..

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Post by Rishi Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:01 am

Five years ago, he came to Washington and gave a performance. In spite of all the health problems, he was still active. And he narrated many stories about his life in cine world. He expressed great regard for poet Kannadasan, and singer Janaki. Quite a gentleman.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:25 am

Impedimenta wrote:what a voice!

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.

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Post by garam_kuta Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:28 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.[/quote]

really ? who ??

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:07 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.

really ? who ??[/quote]

Vasudevan started his career as a singer cum actor in Tamil drama troupes in Malaysia and later moved to Madras to pursue his career in singing. Since he could sound like T M Soundarajan, he was taken by Paavalar Brothers, the troupe formed by Ilayaraja and his brothers even before the composer had entered the industry as a music director.

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Post by garam_kuta Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:26 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.

really ? who ??

Vasudevan started his career as a singer cum actor in Tamil drama troupes in Malaysia and later moved to Madras to pursue his career in singing. Since he could sound like T M Soundarajan, he was taken by Paavalar Brothers, the troupe formed by Ilayaraja and his brothers even before the composer had entered the industry as a music director.[/quote]

saar ! please.. malaysia vasudevan sings soft and does not have the upper range - he could never have sung anything even 70% close to TMS , even any one of his many modulations- MGR, Sivaji Ganesan, JaiShankar, Ravichandran. BTW, have you ever tried playing a game of switching one for another of these four in your mind and test it out? you will be amazed.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:31 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.

really ? who ??

Vasudevan started his career as a singer cum actor in Tamil drama troupes in Malaysia and later moved to Madras to pursue his career in singing. Since he could sound like T M Soundarajan, he was taken by Paavalar Brothers, the troupe formed by Ilayaraja and his brothers even before the composer had entered the industry as a music director.

saar ! please.. malaysia vasudevan sings soft and does not have the upper range - he could never have sung anything even 70% close to TMS , even any one of his many modulations- MGR, Sivaji Ganesan, JaiShankar, Ravichandran. BTW, have you ever tried playing a game of switching one for another of these four in your mind and test it out? you will be amazed. [/quote]

Sorry you have your view...and I have my view...Hence I showed an independent view. It says he COULD sound like TMS. Sure TMS was versatile and could modulate blah blah and more blah....not denying any of that.

Who could sound like P B S ? That was my point.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:32 pm

PBS had a sweet voice. I agree, he was somewhat like AM Raja.

May he RIP.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:50 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQq20zXpLFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAbWSIL1KtA

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:33 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul2-KVT0FFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB7VhpIcLSg

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Post by Rishi Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:33 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.

really ? who ??

Vasudevan started his career as a singer cum actor in Tamil drama troupes in Malaysia and later moved to Madras to pursue his career in singing. Since he could sound like T M Soundarajan, he was taken by Paavalar Brothers, the troupe formed by Ilayaraja and his brothers even before the composer had entered the industry as a music director.

saar ! please.. malaysia vasudevan sings soft and does not have the upper range - he could never have sung anything even 70% close to TMS , even any one of his many modulations- MGR, Sivaji Ganesan, JaiShankar, Ravichandran. BTW, have you ever tried playing a game of switching one for another of these four in your mind and test it out? you will be amazed. [/quote]

GK,

You left out actor Ahokan, a perfect gentleman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5HhEotYHdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WnEkKGJDq0


And TMS has sung for poet Kannadasan himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSeUl6j66E

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Post by garam_kuta Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:15 pm

Rishi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

He had a Unique voice not easily replicated much like Mukesh. TMS for his versatility and popularity, others can sing like TMS. I used to get confused a bit between PBS and AM Raja (his predecessor) long time back.

really ? who ??

Vasudevan started his career as a singer cum actor in Tamil drama troupes in Malaysia and later moved to Madras to pursue his career in singing. Since he could sound like T M Soundarajan, he was taken by Paavalar Brothers, the troupe formed by Ilayaraja and his brothers even before the composer had entered the industry as a music director.

saar ! please.. malaysia vasudevan sings soft and does not have the upper range - he could never have sung anything even 70% close to TMS , even any one of his many modulations- MGR, Sivaji Ganesan, JaiShankar, Ravichandran. BTW, have you ever tried playing a game of switching one for another of these four in your mind and test it out? you will be amazed.

GK,

You left out actor Ahokan, a perfect gentleman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5HhEotYHdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WnEkKGJDq0


And TMS has sung for poet Kannadasan himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSeUl6j66E
[/quote]

true..its tricky to place the actor with these songs .. another good one ( lifted from Hindi)

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Post by Impedimenta Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:31 pm

psst...how is anyone comparing Malaysia vasudevan to TMS? aiyooo to the max....

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Post by Nila Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:54 pm









RIP Sad

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:17 pm

Impedimenta wrote:psst...how is anyone comparing Malaysia vasudevan to TMS? aiyooo to the max....

ok...parse the sentense carefully - the one from 2009 paper.

TMS was too busy and monopolizing the industry. new directors like IL Raja were looking for someone ELSE who appears like TMS and they used Malaysia vasudevan. He did not prove to be TMS equivalent in skills and abilities and range and hence no one "compared" him to TMS.

The question here was "is there anyone with a voice like PBS" answer is NO. Was there anyone with voice like TMS The answer to that - per newspaper and directors in the 70s - is yes.

That is all your honor.

P.S. Actually, PBS was a kind of replacement for AM Raja, when he was fading away fast. I like Raja-Jikki pair.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:34 pm

"I like Raja-Jikki pair."

Me too. Raja was great in Missamma. Jikki sang better in Tamil or Telugu Anarkali than Lata in Hindi Anarkali.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ivkk89b_ug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brShV91MePs

Here are other Jikki greats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udUjHaQpJDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5fhgQxNi1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vThrTWa5kSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vKPWbfe1UY

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Post by garam_kuta Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:40 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:psst...how is anyone comparing Malaysia vasudevan to TMS? aiyooo to the max....

ok...parse the sentense carefully - the one from 2009 paper.

TMS was too busy and monopolizing the industry. new directors like IL Raja were looking for someone ELSE who appears like TMS and they used Malaysia vasudevan. He did not prove to be TMS equivalent in skills and abilities and range and hence no one "compared" him to TMS.

The question here was "is there anyone with a voice like PBS" answer is NO. Was there anyone with voice like TMS The answer to that - per newspaper and directors in the 70s - is yes.....

kuppura vizhundhAlum...meesai irukka mudalae? the question is what do YOU think - was malaysia vasudevan anywhere close to TMS ?

talk about monopoly - until RahmAn surfaced, only a few singers dominated and almost suffocated.. it was much worse in bollywood actually; of course recycle raja monopolized as well, until the fresh ARR breeze embraced both north and south; now there is so much variety

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:43 am

Where did I say Malaysia vasudevan is anywhere close to TMS. read my post AGAIN. I stated it CLEARLY already. I was just talking about hte voice... you extrapolated it to TMS skills and voice range, blah blah... which was not the issue at all.

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Post by garam_kuta Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:49 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Where did I say Malaysia vasudevan is anywhere close to TMS. read my post AGAIN. I stated it CLEARLY already. I was just talking about hte voice... you extrapolated it to TMS skills and voice range, blah blah... which was not the issue at all.

you are getting too technical saami..sari..unga muyalukku 3 kaalu.. hugh hefnerkkum 3 1/4 Razz

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:56 am

garam_kuta wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Where did I say Malaysia vasudevan is anywhere close to TMS. read my post AGAIN. I stated it CLEARLY already. I was just talking about hte voice... you extrapolated it to TMS skills and voice range, blah blah... which was not the issue at all.

you are getting too technical saami..sari..unga muyalukku 3 kaalu.. hugh hefnerkkum 3 1/4 Razz

So I still have ways to go to emulate Hefner Saar ji.

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Post by Rishi Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:26 pm

GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

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Post by garam_kuta Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:34 pm

Rishi wrote:GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

yes. he holds the record for recycling tunes with none or minimal change.

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Post by Rishi Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:36 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

yes. he holds the record for recycling tunes with none or minimal change.



Then why is that people like Impedimenta go gaga over this guy calling him a genius?

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Post by garam_kuta Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:58 pm

Rishi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

yes. he holds the record for recycling tunes with none or minimal change.

Then why is that people like Impedimenta go gaga over this guy calling him a genius?

aiyO- andha ammakittae vambulae izhuththu vudAdheenga Smile

in case you had missed the posts below; similarly, i do have very many, but not directly copied but mostly his own and recycled many times with barely anychange, even in the interludes. I have been procrastinating, posting them here.

https://such.forumotion.com/t9453-genius-ilayaraja-then-now

https://such.forumotion.com/t11477-another-gem-from-ilayaraja


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Post by Nila Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:15 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

yes. he holds the record for recycling tunes with none or minimal change.

Then why is that people like Impedimenta go gaga over this guy calling him a genius?

aiyO- andha ammakittae vambulae izhuththu vudAdheenga Smile

in case you had missed the posts below; similarly, i do have very many, but not directly copied but mostly his own and recycled many times with barely anychange, even in the interludes. I have been procrastinating, posting them here.

https://such.forumotion.com/t9453-genius-ilayaraja-then-now

https://such.forumotion.com/t11477-another-gem-from-ilayaraja




Bill Gates copied, Steve Jobs copied and so many others copied. See, copying is an art and not for everyone. Out of billions of people on earth...only few can copy and innovate. Innovation sets them apart.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:23 pm

Nila wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

yes. he holds the record for recycling tunes with none or minimal change.

Then why is that people like Impedimenta go gaga over this guy calling him a genius?

aiyO- andha ammakittae vambulae izhuththu vudAdheenga Smile

in case you had missed the posts below; similarly, i do have very many, but not directly copied but mostly his own and recycled many times with barely anychange, even in the interludes. I have been procrastinating, posting them here.

https://such.forumotion.com/t9453-genius-ilayaraja-then-now

https://such.forumotion.com/t11477-another-gem-from-ilayaraja




Bill Gates copied, Steve Jobs copied and so many others copied. See, copying is an art and not for everyone. Out of billions of people on earth...only few can copy and innovate. Innovation sets them apart.

Seri kannu... Inna thaan solre nee ippala?

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Post by Nila Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:37 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Seri kannu... Inna thaan solre nee ippala?

Annaithum Arinda Ungalukku How can I give vilakkam. Sonnathu Sonnathu Thaan., Neengo decode senchukKobeh.

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Post by Impedimenta Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:21 pm

Rishi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:GK

Who is recycle raja?

Ilaya Raja?

yes. he holds the record for recycling tunes with none or minimal change.



Then why is that people like Impedimenta go gaga over this guy calling him a genius?

i am right here in front of you and you go asking him? why? why o why?

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