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Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:23 pm
Mainstream Indian history focuses on the nonviolent movement for India’s freedom. But the history of colonial India has several examples of violent attempts to overthrow colonial oppression. All the questions this week are related to such attempts.
1. In February 1915, there was a conspiracy to incite large-scale mutiny in the British Indian army. The conspiracy was hatched by the German Foreign Office through its Consulate in San Francisco, with the support of a group of Indian expatriate revolutionaries. The revolutionaries returned to India and tried to encourage enlisted Indian soldiers to rise up against their officers. Their efforts were defeated by the Punjab CID who infiltrated their ranks. Name the revolutionary group.
2. Leading Signalman MS Khan and Petty Officer Telegraphist Madan Singh were unanimously elected the president and vice president respectively of a committee that led one of the last actions in India’s struggle for freedom from British rule. British Prime Minister at the time, Clement Attlee, cited this action as one of the immediate triggers for the decision to withdraw from India. What was it?
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
4. His given name was Ramachandra, and his father’s given name was Panduranga. His killing on April 18, 1859 is often considered as the end of the War of 1857. By what name is he known to history?
5. Azimullah Khan Yusufzai was seven years old when he was rescued from the great famine of 1837-’38 and provided shelter at the Kanpur mission. There, he learned English and French, and went on to play a significant role in Indian history. He is given the Hindi nickname krAntidUt – messenger of revolution. What did he do?
6. This war involved Russia, France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and Sardinia. It is considered one of the first “modern” wars: it was the first war supported logistically with railways and the telegraph, and it was the first war covered by war correspondents for newspapers. This war had a major influence on Indian history, as it exposed the weakness of British Army tactics and leadership, and it influenced Nana Sahib to join the revolutionaries against the East India Company. What is this war commonly known as?
7. This incident took place on August 9, 1925, on the Number 8 Down train traveling from Saharanpur to Lucknow. It was the handiwork of Hindustan Republican Association, a group fighting for India’s freedom from the British. Among the less famous men who organized the incident were: Ashfaqullah Khan, Rajendra Lahiri, Sachindra Bakshi, Keshab Chakravarthy, Manmanthnath Gupta, Murarilal Gupta, Mukundilal Gupta, and Banwari Lal. What is the incident known as?
8. This revolutionary’s father was an official photographer at a central jail. After his father died in his teenage years, he was raised by his uncle, who was a tehsildAr. Although he came from a privileged family of plains people, he made a name for himself leading a tribal revolt against British rule. There is just one photograph of him, taken after his death, at the State Archives of Andhra Pradesh in Hyderabad. Name him.
9. At Indian independence from Britain in 1947, parts of the subcontinent were still ruled by other European colonial powers. It took 14 more years to rid the subcontinent of European colonialism. In 1948, this town on the outskirts of the largest Indian city at the time held a plebiscite in which 97% of the people voted for independence and union with India. As a result, it became the first non-British colonial territory on the subcontinent to gain independence. Name the town.
10. Major General Shah Nawaz Khan, Colonel Prem Sahgal, and Colonel Gurbaksh Singh Dhillon were all court-martialed in 1945 at the Red Fort. Jawaharlal Nehru was one of their defense lawyers. What was the offense they were charged with?
1. In February 1915, there was a conspiracy to incite large-scale mutiny in the British Indian army. The conspiracy was hatched by the German Foreign Office through its Consulate in San Francisco, with the support of a group of Indian expatriate revolutionaries. The revolutionaries returned to India and tried to encourage enlisted Indian soldiers to rise up against their officers. Their efforts were defeated by the Punjab CID who infiltrated their ranks. Name the revolutionary group.
2. Leading Signalman MS Khan and Petty Officer Telegraphist Madan Singh were unanimously elected the president and vice president respectively of a committee that led one of the last actions in India’s struggle for freedom from British rule. British Prime Minister at the time, Clement Attlee, cited this action as one of the immediate triggers for the decision to withdraw from India. What was it?
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
4. His given name was Ramachandra, and his father’s given name was Panduranga. His killing on April 18, 1859 is often considered as the end of the War of 1857. By what name is he known to history?
5. Azimullah Khan Yusufzai was seven years old when he was rescued from the great famine of 1837-’38 and provided shelter at the Kanpur mission. There, he learned English and French, and went on to play a significant role in Indian history. He is given the Hindi nickname krAntidUt – messenger of revolution. What did he do?
6. This war involved Russia, France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and Sardinia. It is considered one of the first “modern” wars: it was the first war supported logistically with railways and the telegraph, and it was the first war covered by war correspondents for newspapers. This war had a major influence on Indian history, as it exposed the weakness of British Army tactics and leadership, and it influenced Nana Sahib to join the revolutionaries against the East India Company. What is this war commonly known as?
7. This incident took place on August 9, 1925, on the Number 8 Down train traveling from Saharanpur to Lucknow. It was the handiwork of Hindustan Republican Association, a group fighting for India’s freedom from the British. Among the less famous men who organized the incident were: Ashfaqullah Khan, Rajendra Lahiri, Sachindra Bakshi, Keshab Chakravarthy, Manmanthnath Gupta, Murarilal Gupta, Mukundilal Gupta, and Banwari Lal. What is the incident known as?
8. This revolutionary’s father was an official photographer at a central jail. After his father died in his teenage years, he was raised by his uncle, who was a tehsildAr. Although he came from a privileged family of plains people, he made a name for himself leading a tribal revolt against British rule. There is just one photograph of him, taken after his death, at the State Archives of Andhra Pradesh in Hyderabad. Name him.
9. At Indian independence from Britain in 1947, parts of the subcontinent were still ruled by other European colonial powers. It took 14 more years to rid the subcontinent of European colonialism. In 1948, this town on the outskirts of the largest Indian city at the time held a plebiscite in which 97% of the people voted for independence and union with India. As a result, it became the first non-British colonial territory on the subcontinent to gain independence. Name the town.
10. Major General Shah Nawaz Khan, Colonel Prem Sahgal, and Colonel Gurbaksh Singh Dhillon were all court-martialed in 1945 at the Red Fort. Jawaharlal Nehru was one of their defense lawyers. What was the offense they were charged with?
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Guest Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:44 pm
1. gadar party (i think i learnt about it through such trivia).
7. kakori train robbery.
7. kakori train robbery.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by indophile Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:50 pm
1. Ghadar
2. Navy enlisted men mutiny in Bombay
3. Vellore uprising, where they had the British by the balls, but let it slip away.
4. Tantia Tope - The greatest Indian military general ever born.
5. ??
6.??
7. ??
8. Alluri Sitaramaraju
9. Chandranagore
10. Their participation in INA (Indian National Army) of Subhash Chandra Bose.
(This reminds me of goud guy (caste of people who squeeze milk from cows and buffaloes) who had been a foot soldier in the INA. He was caught as a prisoner. The Britishe tried to interrogate him. There was nobody who knew Oriya close by and so they thought Telugu should work since ours is a border area. The officer asked him, "neevu INA yaa?" (Are you an INA guy?). The guy replied in mixed Oriya and Telugu, "mor ayya nain" (My dad is no more). They let him go free. He became a hero in our town.
2. Navy enlisted men mutiny in Bombay
3. Vellore uprising, where they had the British by the balls, but let it slip away.
4. Tantia Tope - The greatest Indian military general ever born.
5. ??
6.??
7. ??
8. Alluri Sitaramaraju
9. Chandranagore
10. Their participation in INA (Indian National Army) of Subhash Chandra Bose.
(This reminds me of goud guy (caste of people who squeeze milk from cows and buffaloes) who had been a foot soldier in the INA. He was caught as a prisoner. The Britishe tried to interrogate him. There was nobody who knew Oriya close by and so they thought Telugu should work since ours is a border area. The officer asked him, "neevu INA yaa?" (Are you an INA guy?). The guy replied in mixed Oriya and Telugu, "mor ayya nain" (My dad is no more). They let him go free. He became a hero in our town.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Seva Lamberdar Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:56 pm
1. Gaddar Party.
4. T. Tope'.
5. spied and spread the news during the 1857 battles.
9. Pondi.
10. Treason
4. T. Tope'.
5. spied and spread the news during the 1857 battles.
9. Pondi.
10. Treason
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:18 pm
Both are correct.Huzefa Kapasi wrote:1. gadar party (i think i learnt about it through such trivia).
7. kakori train robbery.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:19 pm
All you answers are correct. The INA men were formally charged with waging war against the state and murder.indophile wrote:1. Ghadar
2. Navy enlisted men mutiny in Bombay
3. Vellore uprising, where they had the British by the balls, but let it slip away.
4. Tantia Tope - The greatest Indian military general ever born.
5. ??
6.??
7. ??
8. Alluri Sitaramaraju
9. Chandranagore
10. Their participation in INA (Indian National Army) of Subhash Chandra Bose.
(This reminds me of goud guy (caste of people who squeeze milk from cows and buffaloes) who had been a foot soldier in the INA. He was caught as a prisoner. The Britishe tried to interrogate him. There was nobody who knew Oriya close by and so they thought Telugu should work since ours is a border area. The officer asked him, "neevu INA yaa?" (Are you an INA guy?). The guy replied in mixed Oriya and Telugu, "mor ayya nain" (My dad is no more). They let him go free. He became a hero in our town.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:21 pm
1, 4, and 10 are correct. 9 is Chandannagar also known as Chandernagore.Seva Lamberdar wrote:1. Gaddar Party.
4. T. Tope'.
5. spied and spread the news during the 1857 battles.
9. Pondi.
10. Treason
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:25 pm
Here are some hints.
5. Azimullah was the dewan of Nana Sahib and went to London to plead his employer's case with company and British government officials. The war in question 6 started when he was in London.
6. Florence Nightingale tended to the victims of this war.
5. Azimullah was the dewan of Nana Sahib and went to London to plead his employer's case with company and British government officials. The war in question 6 started when he was in London.
6. Florence Nightingale tended to the victims of this war.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:52 pm
Idéfix wrote:Mainstream Indian history focuses on the nonviolent movement for India’s freedom. But the history of colonial India has several examples of violent attempts to overthrow colonial oppression. All the questions this week are related to such attempts.
2. Railways?
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
Panjalamkurichi...
9. At Indian independence from Britain in 1947, parts of the subcontinent were still ruled by other European colonial powers. It took 14 more years to rid the subcontinent of European colonialism. In 1948, this town on the outskirts of the largest Indian city at the time held a plebiscite in which 97% of the people voted for independence and union with India. As a result, it became the first non-British colonial territory on the subcontinent to gain independence. Name the town.
Panaji
On behalf of KV: Why can't Tamils have a plebiscite??????
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by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:23 pm
In 1947 Nagas held a plebicite and 99.7 % voted for independent Nagaland. India ignored it and send its army to occupy Nagaland. That occupation army is still there. Tamils oppose the illegal Indian occupation of Nagaland.Idéfix wrote:M
In 1948, this town on the outskirts of the largest Indian city at the time held a plebiscite in which 97% of the people voted for independence and union with India. As a result, it became the first non-British colonial territory on the subcontinent to gain independence. Name the town.
?
http://www.tamiltribune.com/05/0802.html
"Nagas can come as close as possible but it is not possible for the Nagas to come within the Indian Union or within the framework of the Indian Constitution... Nagaland was never a part of India either by conquest by India or by consent of the Nagas." - General-Secretary of National Socialist Council of Nagaland Thuingaleng Muivah
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:47 pm
Correct!Seva Lamberdar wrote:6. Crimean War
Azimullah Khan stopped in Istanbul on the way back from London, and checked out the press reports about British casualties in the war. He found that British Army leadership was weak, tactics were outdated, that they were taking heavy casualties from the Russians, and were hobbled by persistent logistical problems. Azimullah brought this intelligence to Nana Sahib, and lobbied him to rebel against the British. Nana Sahib's decision to join the rebels was influenced by the intelligence brought back by Azimullah Khan. Nana Sahib's involvement, which also brought in Tantya Tope, turned the mutiny into a real war. This is why Azimullah is called "messenger of the revolution."
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:11 pm
No, this was the mutiny of the Royal Indian Navy, that started in Bombay and spread to Karachi and Calcutta. Royal Indian Army forces also participated in the mutiny. This mutiny precipitated the British withdrawal from India, because it convinced the government that even the British Indian army could no longer be counted on to defend the Raj.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:2. Railways?
No, this is the mutiny of Indian soldiers in the British forces in the Vellore garrison. Kattabomman's revolt was about a decade earlier.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
Panjalamkurichi...
No, that city had to be liberated by force by the Indian Army.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:9. Panaji
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:21 pm
Here are the answers.
1. In February 1915, there was a conspiracy to incite large-scale mutiny in the British Indian army. The conspiracy was hatched by the German Foreign Office through its Consulate in San Francisco, with the support of a group of Indian expatriate revolutionaries. The revolutionaries returned to India and tried to encourage enlisted Indian soldiers to rise up against their officers. Their efforts were defeated by the Punjab CID who infiltrated their ranks. Name the revolutionary group.
Answer: Ghadar Party
2. Leading Signalman MS Khan and Petty Officer Telegraphist Madan Singh were unanimously elected the president and vice president respectively of a committee that led one of the last actions in India’s struggle for freedom from British rule. British Prime Minister at the time, Clement Attlee, cited this action as one of the immediate triggers for the decision to withdraw from India. What was it?
Answer: The Bombay Mutiny, where enlisted sailors of the Royal Indian Navy refused to obey orders. The mutiny quickly spread to other ports and services of the armed forces of the British Raj, including the Army and the Air Force. Indian National Congress and All India Muslim League both opposed the mutiny. But the mutineers flew on their ships three flags tied together: those of the INC, AIML, and the Communist Party of India.
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
Answer: Mutiny of the Vellore garrison.
4. His given name was Ramachandra, and his father’s given name was Panduranga. His killing on April 18, 1859 is often considered as the end of the War of 1857. By what name is he known to history?
Answer: Tantya Tope
5. Azimullah Khan Yusufzai was seven years old when he was rescued from the great famine of 1837-’38 and provided shelter at the Kanpur mission. There, he learned English and French, and went on to play a significant role in Indian history. He is given the Hindi nickname krAntidUt – messenger of revolution. What did he do?
Answer: He went to London to plead Nana Sahib's case with the company and the British government. He failed in his mission to get Nana Sahib's position restored. In London, he saw that most British people lived in abject poverty in their own country, while they lived like kings in India. He understood that Britain was not a country of wealthy people. The Crimean War broke out when he was in London, and he saw reports of large casualties taken by the British there. He understood that Britain is not as powerful as it seemed to the Indians back home. He stopped in Istanbul on his way home, and checked out the news reports. He brought back to Nana Sahib the bad news about his mission, and the intelligence of British military weakness, and he encouraged Nana Sahib to take military action against the company. Nana Sahib was persuaded to join the rebels in 1857 because of the intelligence brought back by Azimullah.
6. This war involved Russia, France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and Sardinia. It is considered one of the first “modern” wars: it was the first war supported logistically with railways and the telegraph, and it was the first war covered by war correspondents for newspapers. This war had a major influence on Indian history, as it exposed the weakness of British Army tactics and leadership, and it influenced Nana Sahib to join the revolutionaries against the East India Company. What is this war commonly known as?
Answer: Crimean War
7. This incident took place on August 9, 1925, on the Number 8 Down train traveling from Saharanpur to Lucknow. It was the handiwork of Hindustan Republican Association, a group fighting for India’s freedom from the British. Among the less famous men who organized the incident were: Ashfaqullah Khan, Rajendra Lahiri, Sachindra Bakshi, Keshab Chakravarthy, Manmanthnath Gupta, Murarilal Gupta, Mukundilal Gupta, and Banwari Lal. What is the incident known as?
Answer: Kakori Conspiracy Case
8. This revolutionary’s father was an official photographer at a central jail. After his father died in his teenage years, he was raised by his uncle, who was a tehsildAr. Although he came from a privileged family of plains people, he made a name for himself leading a tribal revolt against British rule. There is just one photograph of him, taken after his death, at the State Archives of Andhra Pradesh in Hyderabad. Name him.
Answer: Alluri Sitarama Raju
9. At Indian independence from Britain in 1947, parts of the subcontinent were still ruled by other European colonial powers. It took 14 more years to rid the subcontinent of European colonialism. In 1948, this town on the outskirts of the largest Indian city at the time held a plebiscite in which 97% of the people voted for independence and union with India. As a result, it became the first non-British colonial territory on the subcontinent to gain independence. Name the town.
Answer: Chandannagar, earlier known as Chandernagore, then a part of the French India
10. Major General Shah Nawaz Khan, Colonel Prem Sahgal, and Colonel Gurbaksh Singh Dhillon were all court-martialed in 1945 at the Red Fort. Jawaharlal Nehru was one of their defense lawyers. What was the offense they were charged with?
Answer: They were soldiers of the Indian National Army, and were charged with waging war against the King-Emperor (equivalent to treason), and charges related to murder or encouraging murder.
1. In February 1915, there was a conspiracy to incite large-scale mutiny in the British Indian army. The conspiracy was hatched by the German Foreign Office through its Consulate in San Francisco, with the support of a group of Indian expatriate revolutionaries. The revolutionaries returned to India and tried to encourage enlisted Indian soldiers to rise up against their officers. Their efforts were defeated by the Punjab CID who infiltrated their ranks. Name the revolutionary group.
Answer: Ghadar Party
2. Leading Signalman MS Khan and Petty Officer Telegraphist Madan Singh were unanimously elected the president and vice president respectively of a committee that led one of the last actions in India’s struggle for freedom from British rule. British Prime Minister at the time, Clement Attlee, cited this action as one of the immediate triggers for the decision to withdraw from India. What was it?
Answer: The Bombay Mutiny, where enlisted sailors of the Royal Indian Navy refused to obey orders. The mutiny quickly spread to other ports and services of the armed forces of the British Raj, including the Army and the Air Force. Indian National Congress and All India Muslim League both opposed the mutiny. But the mutineers flew on their ships three flags tied together: those of the INC, AIML, and the Communist Party of India.
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
Answer: Mutiny of the Vellore garrison.
4. His given name was Ramachandra, and his father’s given name was Panduranga. His killing on April 18, 1859 is often considered as the end of the War of 1857. By what name is he known to history?
Answer: Tantya Tope
5. Azimullah Khan Yusufzai was seven years old when he was rescued from the great famine of 1837-’38 and provided shelter at the Kanpur mission. There, he learned English and French, and went on to play a significant role in Indian history. He is given the Hindi nickname krAntidUt – messenger of revolution. What did he do?
Answer: He went to London to plead Nana Sahib's case with the company and the British government. He failed in his mission to get Nana Sahib's position restored. In London, he saw that most British people lived in abject poverty in their own country, while they lived like kings in India. He understood that Britain was not a country of wealthy people. The Crimean War broke out when he was in London, and he saw reports of large casualties taken by the British there. He understood that Britain is not as powerful as it seemed to the Indians back home. He stopped in Istanbul on his way home, and checked out the news reports. He brought back to Nana Sahib the bad news about his mission, and the intelligence of British military weakness, and he encouraged Nana Sahib to take military action against the company. Nana Sahib was persuaded to join the rebels in 1857 because of the intelligence brought back by Azimullah.
6. This war involved Russia, France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and Sardinia. It is considered one of the first “modern” wars: it was the first war supported logistically with railways and the telegraph, and it was the first war covered by war correspondents for newspapers. This war had a major influence on Indian history, as it exposed the weakness of British Army tactics and leadership, and it influenced Nana Sahib to join the revolutionaries against the East India Company. What is this war commonly known as?
Answer: Crimean War
7. This incident took place on August 9, 1925, on the Number 8 Down train traveling from Saharanpur to Lucknow. It was the handiwork of Hindustan Republican Association, a group fighting for India’s freedom from the British. Among the less famous men who organized the incident were: Ashfaqullah Khan, Rajendra Lahiri, Sachindra Bakshi, Keshab Chakravarthy, Manmanthnath Gupta, Murarilal Gupta, Mukundilal Gupta, and Banwari Lal. What is the incident known as?
Answer: Kakori Conspiracy Case
8. This revolutionary’s father was an official photographer at a central jail. After his father died in his teenage years, he was raised by his uncle, who was a tehsildAr. Although he came from a privileged family of plains people, he made a name for himself leading a tribal revolt against British rule. There is just one photograph of him, taken after his death, at the State Archives of Andhra Pradesh in Hyderabad. Name him.
Answer: Alluri Sitarama Raju
9. At Indian independence from Britain in 1947, parts of the subcontinent were still ruled by other European colonial powers. It took 14 more years to rid the subcontinent of European colonialism. In 1948, this town on the outskirts of the largest Indian city at the time held a plebiscite in which 97% of the people voted for independence and union with India. As a result, it became the first non-British colonial territory on the subcontinent to gain independence. Name the town.
Answer: Chandannagar, earlier known as Chandernagore, then a part of the French India
10. Major General Shah Nawaz Khan, Colonel Prem Sahgal, and Colonel Gurbaksh Singh Dhillon were all court-martialed in 1945 at the Red Fort. Jawaharlal Nehru was one of their defense lawyers. What was the offense they were charged with?
Answer: They were soldiers of the Indian National Army, and were charged with waging war against the King-Emperor (equivalent to treason), and charges related to murder or encouraging murder.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:36 pm
This mutiny the south precedes the North Indian Sepoy mutiny of 1857 by half a century but Hindian gov calls that the 1st indep war. Why? Either students are indoctrinated by false history to elevate North indians or Indian gov does not consider Vellore and TN not part of India. What is the matter?Idéfix wrote:Here are the answers.
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
Answer: Mutiny of the Vellore garrison.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:40 pm
the NCERT history textbooks are written mostly by northindians who may not even be aware of this, but that does not excuse the TN state board history books. wiki says two hundred british troops were killed or hurt and about one hundred indian mutineers were executed.Kayalvizhi wrote:This mutiny the south precedes the North Indian Sepoy mutiny of 1857 by half a century but Hindian gov calls that the 1st indep war. Why? Either students are indoctrinated by false history to elevate North indians or Indian gov does not consider Vellore and TN not part of India. What is the matter?Idéfix wrote:Here are the answers.
3. July 10, 1806 marks an important date in the history of the Indian independence movement. What happened on this day, and where?
Answer: Mutiny of the Vellore garrison.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:49 pm
>> the NCERT history textbooks are written mostly by northindians who may not even be aware of this, but that does not excuse the TN state board history books.
There lieds the problem. If TN books say first war is Vellore, a Tamil writi ng IAS exam will say so and fail. See that is why TN has to go along withy NCERT.
Indian gov is bringing more and more common exams and so TN has to include NCERT lies in our history books.
OR TN books can give 2 answrs in the book: 1) Truth, 2) North Indian lied with not "use North Indian lie in common exams"
There lieds the problem. If TN books say first war is Vellore, a Tamil writi ng IAS exam will say so and fail. See that is why TN has to go along withy NCERT.
Indian gov is bringing more and more common exams and so TN has to include NCERT lies in our history books.
OR TN books can give 2 answrs in the book: 1) Truth, 2) North Indian lied with not "use North Indian lie in common exams"
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:02 pm
There is a difference between a war and a mutiny. British historians seek to deny this difference, when they refer to the incidents of 1857-1859 as the Sepoy Mutiny. It was more than that. I think calling it the First War of Indian Independence is a bit much, so I prefer the term War of 1857. But in terms of scale, duration, and impact, the War of 1857 was much, much larger than the mutiny in Vellore. The Vellore mutiny did not result in lasting changes in the administration of India like the War of 1857 did. I believe both NCERT and TN textbooks should include references to the Vellore mutiny and Kattabomman before that in history textbooks. But if they call it a war, that would be historically inaccurate.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:17 pm
"The Vellore mutiny did not result in lasting changes in the administration of India like the War of 1857 did."
>>> If I remember correctly, there was even a change in the title of the head of British administration in India after the War of 1857.
>>> If I remember correctly, there was even a change in the title of the head of British administration in India after the War of 1857.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Idéfix Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:39 pm
That wasn't the only change. The War of 1857 ended the rule of the East India Company, and put the government of India in the hands of the British parliament, by making the Governor General accountable to the Secretary of State for India. As a result of the war, it also became British policy to build railways and telegraph infrastructure rapidly across India, to enable faster military communications and troop movements. This in turn had the unintended consequence of bringing India and Indians closer together. Another result of this war was the creation of the Indian Civil Service. This service played a vital role in keeping India together and functioning in the first few years after independence. After this war, British policy changed from "reforming" indigenous traditions, westernizing Indians, and converting them to Christianity, to leaving Indian religions alone by and large.Seva Lamberdar wrote:"The Vellore mutiny did not result in lasting changes in the administration of India like the War of 1857 did."
>>> If I remember correctly, there was even a change in the title of the head of British administration in India after the War of 1857.
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:50 pm
Both sepoy mutiny and vellore mutiny failed.Seva Lamberdar wrote:"The Vellore mutiny did not result in lasting changes in the administration of India like the War of 1857 did."
>>> If I remember correctly, there was even a change in the title of the head of British administration in India after the War of 1857.
Vellore mutiny tried to install sultans son in throne, sepoy mutiny tried to do it with some mogul ruler.
Both mutinies are for selfish reasons by individual chieftons, kings there was no Indian identity.
North was not involved in vellore mutiny, south was not involved in sepoy mnutiny although they knew it.
Btitish did condsider vellore mutiny sriously and rushed more British troops.
Hi8ndians honor Janci Rani (?) but no mention of Velupillai Nachiar. What is the difference. They both fought to get their kingdoms. So much about some Nana Sahib but not word about Maruthu Pandiar> Acually Maruthu issuied the first declaration of independence. How may of you know that,
Why the NCERT history of 1965 mention thatTamil demonstrators destryed property (they did) but not mention shooti ngs by security forces resulting in the death of overb 60?
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Re: Independence Day Trivia
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:05 pm
Ji....I did not know that you are THAAAAAT old..Seva Lamberdar wrote:"The Vellore mutiny did not result in lasting changes in the administration of India like the War of 1857 did."
>>> If I remember correctly, there was even a change in the title of the head of British administration in India after the War of 1857.
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