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Post by Guest Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:58 am

Nitish also cautioned people against communal forces. "Let not your difference lead to communal violence. Let the dream to hoist the Indian flag at the Red Fort be a dream only." Questioning Modi's language in the speeches, he called it fascist and not democratic. "Those who believe in fascisim are Hilter-like and will do what Hitler did. Hitler's propoganda was to tell a lie hundreds of times and it would seem to be true. In Indian too some people are doing the same," he added.

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Mocking at Modi, Nitish asked, "Why were you sweating and drinking water while criticising me." He also hit out at Modi for speaking in a harsh tone, "Gujaratis love sweet but why is Modi's tone not sweet?"

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:38 am

Comparing Modi with Hitler only shows Nitish Kumar's lack of knowledge in history.
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Nitish punches holes in Modi's grasp of history:

Nitish also punched holes in "historic claims" made by the Gujarat CM during his rally. "The man (Modi) has an amazing grasp of history. He should know Chandragupta was of Maurya dynasty, not of Gupta dynasty. Neither is Takshashila in Bihar, as Modi said, it is situated in Pakistan." Nitish said Modi may believe that Alexander was defeated by Biharis but history says the Greek king never reached Bihar.

In his speech in Bihar, Modi had made idiotic claims like claiming that Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar, etc. Modi's knowledge of history seems to be nill.

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Before a major heavyweight boxing title bout, there are sideshows on the day's entertainment. Call it a teaser or a trailer, the aim is to whet the appetite of the fan for the real thing that is to follow. In political terms, we've just had our first taste of the electoral battle that is to follow in 2014: Nitish Kumar versus Narendra Modi may not be the final countdown but the appetiser before the main course....


But by pitching the stakes so high, and turning a power struggle into an ideological war, both Nitish and Modi run the risk of knocking each other out even before the main contest for prime ministership has begun. Strangely, not too many in the Opposition seem willing to play referee and call a halt to the punching. Maybe, those watching from the sidelines are hoping that a Modi versus Nitish bruising battle will enable a third face to slip through as a compromise candidate for the top job. The fun has only just begun!


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Rajgir: Nitish Kumar came armed not just with a quiver full of political arrows to aim at rival Narendra Modi today, but also admission cards from the latter's Sunday rally in Patna.

During his sustained diatribe against the BJP's presumptive prime minister at his party's convention in Rajgir, the Bihar chief minister held one of the cards up and said, "See these were made in China. They talk of Swadeshi (Made in India), but now for every small event will they get things made in China?

Mr Kumar then fished out another laminated ID card from his pocket and held it up. "These are ours. Made in Bihar, in India," he said.

The Janata Dal United leader advised the people of his state not to be swayed by the BJP's claim that a "Modi wave" is sweeping the country. "Do not believe poll surveys. Do not be afraid. It's a public relations exercise. Treat it as entertainment."

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"You (Modi) are telling people 'chun chun ke saaf karo' (wipe them out one by one). You can win by getting votes, not by wiping them out... It is not just dictatorship, it is fascism, and those who believe in fascism, their icon is Hilter. They will do what Hitler did... The language of fascism will not work in a democracy," said Nitish, addressing the JD(U) state convention in Rajgir.

"Hitler's propaganda minister would tell a lie hundreds of times and it would seem to be true. The same thing is happening here now," he said, adding that the talk about a Modi wave was part of this misinformation campaign. "His dream to unfurl the national flag at Red Fort will remain a dream," he said.

"I was watching his speech live. He kept drinking a lot of water and wiping his sweat. I want to know why there is so much impatience. For the man who aspires to occupy the highest post of the country has to be patient... why this unnecessary excitement and hurry?" said Nitish. While he dismissed Modi's barb that he (Nitish) dreamt of becoming the Prime Minister, he added, "even if one has such a dream, what is wrong with it?"

Targeting Modi's brand of politics, Nitish asked why he wants to create "hatred". "I am told that half of the country's ice cream is consumed by people in Gujarat, but I often wonder how one who eats sweet things can use such harsh language," said Nitish.

"I appeal to Hindus and Muslims not to fight each other or engage in riots. The threat of fascism is looming. Get prepared to fight it, be ready to sacrifice your life," he said. "Let not your differences lead to communal violence. Let the dream to hoist the national flag at Red Fort be a dream only," he said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nitish-kumar-draws-hitler-parallel-with-narendra-modi/1188781/0

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In his 90-minute point-by-point rebuttal, Nitish said that Modi, in his "excitement" had given wrong information on Bihar's rich history. "It was said that Chandragupta belonged to the Gupta dynasty, while he is from Maurya dynastry," said Nitish. "The BJP leader... said Taxila was a great historical site in Bihar, but it is in Pakistan... It was said that Alexander came till the banks of the Ganga, but the fact remains that he was only able to reach Sutlej and had to return because of his failing health," said Nitish.

Nitish also ridiculed Modi for invoking Lord Krishna to forge a connect between Yaduvanshi (Yadavs) and Dwarka in Gujarat. "First they tried to make Lord Rama their party worker, and they are now trying to do the same in the name of Lord Krishna," he said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nitish-kumar-draws-hitler-parallel-with-narendra-modi/1188781/0


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Rashmun wrote:In his 90-minute point-by-point rebuttal, Nitish said that Modi, in his "excitement" had given wrong information on Bihar's rich history. "It was said that Chandragupta belonged to the Gupta dynasty, while he is from Maurya dynastry," said Nitish. "The BJP leader... said Taxila was a great historical site in Bihar, but it is in Pakistan... It was said that Alexander came till the banks of the Ganga, but the fact remains that he was only able to reach Sutlej and had to return because of his failing health," said Nitish.

Nitish also ridiculed Modi for invoking Lord Krishna to forge a connect between Yaduvanshi (Yadavs) and Dwarka in Gujarat. "First they tried to make Lord Rama their party worker, and they are now trying to do the same in the name of Lord Krishna," he said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nitish-kumar-draws-hitler-parallel-with-narendra-modi/1188781/0

Nitish who ???? Anyway he and the CONmen can make Allah their party worker and make Mahamad - OBC connection.

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Rashmun wrote:Nitish punches holes in Modi's grasp of history:

Nitish also punched holes in "historic claims" made by the Gujarat CM during his rally. "The man (Modi) has an amazing grasp of history. He should know Chandragupta was of Maurya dynasty, not of Gupta dynasty. Neither is Takshashila in Bihar, as Modi said, it is situated in Pakistan." Nitish said Modi may believe that Alexander was defeated by Biharis but history says the Greek king never reached Bihar.

In his speech in Bihar, Modi had made idiotic claims like claiming that Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar, etc. Modi's knowledge of history seems to be nill.
Nitish Kumar became the CM of one of the poorest and most misgoverned states in the country almost by default, as anything or anyone better than what was happening there before him.  He needs to uplift / improve his state before taking shots at and trying to teach history to other CMs (e.g. Modi) who have done a much better job in leading their states to prosperity and success.
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Nitish punches holes in Modi's grasp of history:

Nitish also punched holes in "historic claims" made by the Gujarat CM during his rally. "The man (Modi) has an amazing grasp of history. He should know Chandragupta was of Maurya dynasty, not of Gupta dynasty. Neither is Takshashila in Bihar, as Modi said, it is situated in Pakistan." Nitish said Modi may believe that Alexander was defeated by Biharis but history says the Greek king never reached Bihar.

In his speech in Bihar, Modi had made idiotic claims like claiming that Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar, etc. Modi's knowledge of history seems to be nill.
Nitish Kumar became the CM of one of the poorest and most misgoverned states in the country almost by default, as anything or anyone better than what was happening there before him.  He needs to uplift / improve his state before taking shots at and trying to teach history to other CMs (e.g. Modi) who have done a much better job in leading their states to prosperity and success.
Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?

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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:In his 90-minute point-by-point rebuttal, Nitish said that Modi, in his "excitement" had given wrong information on Bihar's rich history. "It was said that Chandragupta belonged to the Gupta dynasty, while he is from Maurya dynastry," said Nitish. "The BJP leader... said Taxila was a great historical site in Bihar, but it is in Pakistan... It was said that Alexander came till the banks of the Ganga, but the fact remains that he was only able to reach Sutlej and had to return because of his failing health," said Nitish.

Nitish also ridiculed Modi for invoking Lord Krishna to forge a connect between Yaduvanshi (Yadavs) and Dwarka in Gujarat. "First they tried to make Lord Rama their party worker, and they are now trying to do the same in the name of Lord Krishna," he said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nitish-kumar-draws-hitler-parallel-with-narendra-modi/1188781/0

Nitish who ???? Anyway he and the CONmen can make Allah their party worker and make Mahamad - OBC connection.
Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?

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Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Nitish punches holes in Modi's grasp of history:

Nitish also punched holes in "historic claims" made by the Gujarat CM during his rally. "The man (Modi) has an amazing grasp of history. He should know Chandragupta was of Maurya dynasty, not of Gupta dynasty. Neither is Takshashila in Bihar, as Modi said, it is situated in Pakistan." Nitish said Modi may believe that Alexander was defeated by Biharis but history says the Greek king never reached Bihar.

In his speech in Bihar, Modi had made idiotic claims like claiming that Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar, etc. Modi's knowledge of history seems to be nill.
Nitish Kumar became the CM of one of the poorest and most misgoverned states in the country almost by default, as anything or anyone better than what was happening there before him.  He needs to uplift / improve his state before taking shots at and trying to teach history to other CMs (e.g. Modi) who have done a much better job in leading their states to prosperity and success.
Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?
He probably thought that saying this ("Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar") would make Biharis (run into the ground by their leaders) feel better about themselves. Just a political talk by Modi ... Nitish should be happy that someone is saying nice things about people in his state for a change.
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Nitish punches holes in Modi's grasp of history:

Nitish also punched holes in "historic claims" made by the Gujarat CM during his rally. "The man (Modi) has an amazing grasp of history. He should know Chandragupta was of Maurya dynasty, not of Gupta dynasty. Neither is Takshashila in Bihar, as Modi said, it is situated in Pakistan." Nitish said Modi may believe that Alexander was defeated by Biharis but history says the Greek king never reached Bihar.

In his speech in Bihar, Modi had made idiotic claims like claiming that Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar, etc. Modi's knowledge of history seems to be nill.
Nitish Kumar became the CM of one of the poorest and most misgoverned states in the country almost by default, as anything or anyone better than what was happening there before him.  He needs to uplift / improve his state before taking shots at and trying to teach history to other CMs (e.g. Modi) who have done a much better job in leading their states to prosperity and success.
Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?
He probably thought that saying this ("Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar") would make Biharis (run into the ground by their leaders) feel better about themselves. Just a political talk by Modi ... Nitish should be happy that someone is saying nice things about people in his state for a change.
Hitler used to do the same thing. Tell lies by cooking up historical facts which actually had no basis in history just to make the common man feel better about himself. So the comparison with Hitler seems to be fully justified from this point of view.

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Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Nitish punches holes in Modi's grasp of history:

Nitish also punched holes in "historic claims" made by the Gujarat CM during his rally. "The man (Modi) has an amazing grasp of history. He should know Chandragupta was of Maurya dynasty, not of Gupta dynasty. Neither is Takshashila in Bihar, as Modi said, it is situated in Pakistan." Nitish said Modi may believe that Alexander was defeated by Biharis but history says the Greek king never reached Bihar.

In his speech in Bihar, Modi had made idiotic claims like claiming that Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar, etc. Modi's knowledge of history seems to be nill.
Nitish Kumar became the CM of one of the poorest and most misgoverned states in the country almost by default, as anything or anyone better than what was happening there before him.  He needs to uplift / improve his state before taking shots at and trying to teach history to other CMs (e.g. Modi) who have done a much better job in leading their states to prosperity and success.
Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?
He probably thought that saying this ("Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar") would make Biharis (run into the ground by their leaders) feel better about themselves. Just a political talk by Modi ... Nitish should be happy that someone is saying nice things about people in his state for a change.
Hitler used to do the same thing. Tell lies by cooking up historical facts which actually had no basis in history just to make the common man feel better about himself. So the comparison with Hitler seems to be fully justified from this point of view.
>>> You are wrong. Hitler was not saying nice things about other people (Jews etc.) in his speeches, but accusing and blaming them falsely. Modi is not doing that, so the comparison of Modi with Hitler has no basis.
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Nitish Kumar became the CM of one of the poorest and most misgoverned states in the country almost by default, as anything or anyone better than what was happening there before him.  He needs to uplift / improve his state before taking shots at and trying to teach history to other CMs (e.g. Modi) who have done a much better job in leading their states to prosperity and success.
Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?
He probably thought that saying this ("Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar") would make Biharis (run into the ground by their leaders) feel better about themselves. Just a political talk by Modi ... Nitish should be happy that someone is saying nice things about people in his state for a change.
Hitler used to do the same thing. Tell lies by cooking up historical facts which actually had no basis in history just to make the common man feel better about himself. So the comparison with Hitler seems to be fully justified from this point of view.
>>> You are wrong. Hitler was not saying nice things about other people (Jews etc.) in his speeches, but accusing and blaming them falsely. Modi is not doing that, so the comparison of Modi with Hitler has no basis.
Hitler was saying bad things about Jews just like Modi has said bad things about Muslims ( 'hum paanch, hamare pacchis' , etc. ) but he was also cooking up historical facts to try and make the German people feel great about themselves to the extent that many Germans started thinking they were a super race.

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Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Is it proper on the part of Narendra Modi to give false historical facts in his speeches ?
He probably thought that saying this ("Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar") would make Biharis (run into the ground by their leaders) feel better about themselves. Just a political talk by Modi ... Nitish should be happy that someone is saying nice things about people in his state for a change.
Hitler used to do the same thing. Tell lies by cooking up historical facts which actually had no basis in history just to make the common man feel better about himself. So the comparison with Hitler seems to be fully justified from this point of view.
>>> You are wrong. Hitler was not saying nice things about other people (Jews etc.) in his speeches, but accusing and blaming them falsely. Modi is not doing that, so the comparison of Modi with Hitler has no basis.
Hitler was saying bad things about Jews just like Modi has said bad things about Muslims ( 'hum paanch, hamare pacchis' , etc. ) but he was also cooking up historical facts to try and make the German people feel great about themselves to the extent that many Germans started thinking they were a super race.
What about the politicians and others for the past 60 years wrongly blaming brahmins for denying knowledge in Sanskrit and Vedas long ago to others to justify caste based quotas in education and jobs to non-brahmins these days, which incidentally also breeds animosity and casteism against brahmins?
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:He probably thought that saying this ("Biharis had defeated Alexander, Takshashila is in Bihar") would make Biharis (run into the ground by their leaders) feel better about themselves. Just a political talk by Modi ... Nitish should be happy that someone is saying nice things about people in his state for a change.
Hitler used to do the same thing. Tell lies by cooking up historical facts which actually had no basis in history just to make the common man feel better about himself. So the comparison with Hitler seems to be fully justified from this point of view.
>>> You are wrong. Hitler was not saying nice things about other people (Jews etc.) in his speeches, but accusing and blaming them falsely. Modi is not doing that, so the comparison of Modi with Hitler has no basis.
Hitler was saying bad things about Jews just like Modi has said bad things about Muslims ( 'hum paanch, hamare pacchis' , etc. ) but he was also cooking up historical facts to try and make the German people feel great about themselves to the extent that many Germans started thinking they were a super race.
What about the politicians and others for the past 60 years wrongly blaming brahmins for denying knowledge in Sanskrit and Vedas long ago to others to justify caste based quotas in education and jobs to non-brahmins these days, which incidentally also breeds animosity and casteism against brahmins?
Those politicians who indulge in anti Brahmin or anti upper caste rhetoric should also be criticised.

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Rashmun wrote:Nitish also cautioned people against communal forces. "Let not your difference lead to communal violence. Let the dream to hoist the Indian flag at the Red Fort be a dream only." Questioning Modi's language in the speeches, he called it fascist and not democratic. "Those who believe in fascisim are Hilter-like and will do what Hitler did. Hitler's propoganda was to tell a lie hundreds of times and it would seem to be true. In Indian too some people are doing the same," he added.

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India is NOT US. by comparing Modi with Hitler, no one will gain anything as there is no jewish lobby or vote bank. If anything, the Musalmans - who supported Hitler - might look at Modi positively.

The more mud CONmen try to throw at Modi, only their hands get stinkier.

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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Nitish also cautioned people against communal forces. "Let not your difference lead to communal violence. Let the dream to hoist the Indian flag at the Red Fort be a dream only." Questioning Modi's language in the speeches, he called it fascist and not democratic. "Those who believe in fascisim are Hilter-like and will do what Hitler did. Hitler's propoganda was to tell a lie hundreds of times and it would seem to be true. In Indian too some people are doing the same," he added.

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India is NOT US. by comparing Modi with Hitler, no one will gain anything as there is no jewish lobby or vote bank. If anything, the Musalmans - who supported Hitler - might look at Modi positively.

The more mud CONmen try to throw at Modi, only their hands get stinkier.
Nitish is not a Cong man. He is the leader of Janta Dal ( United ).

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Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Hitler used to do the same thing. Tell lies by cooking up historical facts which actually had no basis in history just to make the common man feel better about himself. So the comparison with Hitler seems to be fully justified from this point of view.
>>> You are wrong. Hitler was not saying nice things about other people (Jews etc.) in his speeches, but accusing and blaming them falsely. Modi is not doing that, so the comparison of Modi with Hitler has no basis.
Hitler was saying bad things about Jews just like Modi has said bad things about Muslims ( 'hum paanch, hamare pacchis' , etc. ) but he was also cooking up historical facts to try and make the German people feel great about themselves to the extent that many Germans started thinking they were a super race.
What about the politicians and others for the past 60 years wrongly blaming brahmins for denying knowledge in Sanskrit and Vedas long ago to others to justify caste based quotas in education and jobs to non-brahmins these days, which incidentally also breeds animosity and casteism against brahmins?
Those politicians who indulge in anti Brahmin or anti upper caste rhetoric should also be criticised.
Why not immediately get rid of the discriminatorty caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which work to the disadvantage of brahmins and others.
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:>>> You are wrong. Hitler was not saying nice things about other people (Jews etc.) in his speeches, but accusing and blaming them falsely. Modi is not doing that, so the comparison of Modi with Hitler has no basis.
Hitler was saying bad things about Jews just like Modi has said bad things about Muslims ( 'hum paanch, hamare pacchis' , etc. ) but he was also cooking up historical facts to try and make the German people feel great about themselves to the extent that many Germans started thinking they were a super race.
What about the politicians and others for the past 60 years wrongly blaming brahmins for denying knowledge in Sanskrit and Vedas long ago to others to justify caste based quotas in education and jobs to non-brahmins these days, which incidentally also breeds animosity and casteism against brahmins?
Those politicians who indulge in anti Brahmin or anti upper caste rhetoric should also be criticised.
Why not immediately get rid of the discriminatorty caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which work to the disadvantage of brahmins and others.
No political party wants to do what you are suggesting so we are stuck with the stupid 50% reservation scheme for now. By the way I agree with your suggestion completely.

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After Rahul vs Modi, BJP braces for bigger Modi vs Nitish tussle ( Will Modi and Nitish knock each other out ? )

http://www.hindustantimes.com/specials/coverage/myindia-myvote/chunk-ht-ui-myindiamyvote-countdownto2014/after-modi-vs-rahul-bjp-braces-for-a-bigger-modi-vs-nitish-tussle-too/sp-article10-1145000.aspx

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:02 pm

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Rashmun wrote:Nitish also cautioned people against communal forces. "Let not your difference lead to communal violence. Let the dream to hoist the Indian flag at the Red Fort be a dream only." Questioning Modi's language in the speeches, he called it fascist and not democratic. "Those who believe in fascisim are Hilter-like and will do what Hitler did. Hitler's propoganda was to tell a lie hundreds of times and it would seem to be true. In Indian too some people are doing the same," he added.

Read more at: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/your-dream-to-become-pm-will-remain-a-dream-nitish-to-modi/431205-37-64.html?utm_source=ref_article
India is NOT US. by comparing Modi with Hitler, no one will gain anything as there is no jewish lobby or vote bank. If anything, the Musalmans - who supported Hitler - might look at Modi positively.

The more mud CONmen try to throw at Modi, only their hands get stinkier.
Nitish is not a Cong man. He is the leader of Janta Dal ( United ).
But, he also backstabbed his mentor George Fernandez by denying him party ticket once he took over as JD(U). His backstabbing was worse than Modi. At least Modi is on talking terms with Advani.

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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Nitish also cautioned people against communal forces. "Let not your difference lead to communal violence. Let the dream to hoist the Indian flag at the Red Fort be a dream only." Questioning Modi's language in the speeches, he called it fascist and not democratic. "Those who believe in fascisim are Hilter-like and will do what Hitler did. Hitler's propoganda was to tell a lie hundreds of times and it would seem to be true. In Indian too some people are doing the same," he added.

Read more at: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/your-dream-to-become-pm-will-remain-a-dream-nitish-to-modi/431205-37-64.html?utm_source=ref_article
India is NOT US. by comparing Modi with Hitler, no one will gain anything as there is no jewish lobby or vote bank. If anything, the Musalmans - who supported Hitler - might look at Modi positively.

The more mud CONmen try to throw at Modi, only their hands get stinkier.
Nitish is not a Cong man. He is the leader of Janta Dal ( United ).
But, he also backstabbed his mentor George Fernandez by denying him party ticket once he took over as JD(U).  His backstabbing was worse than Modi. At least Modi is on talking terms with Advani.
Advani is physically and mentally healthy. In contrast George had developed both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. He was in no condition to do electoral campaigning. Further they were in the same party but I do not believe the relationship was of mentor and mentee.

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The BJP's prime ministerial candidate and Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, who had taken a head start over his political opponents with his aggressive campaigning, now appears to be faltering on historical and contemporary facts in his speeches.


Modi, whose strategy of addressing rallies on Sundays, telecast live on TV channels across the country and making newspaper headlines the next day, was giving sleepless nights to his opponents till his friend-turned-foe and Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar decided to challenge him on facts on Tuesday.

Kumar rebutted virtually every single point made by Modi during his massive rally in Patna on October 27. Even as Modi was struggling on historical facts related to Bihar, he was caught on the wrong foot when he said that India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru didn't attend the funeral of his home minister, Sardar Patel.

This confused even BJP leaders, with its deputy leader in the Rajya Sabha Ravi Shankar Prasad saying on Wednesday that Nehru not only skipped Sardar Patel's funeral but also missed the last rites of India's first President Rajendra Prasad.

However, another BJP spokesperson, Meenakshi Lekhi, said a newspaper which "misquoted" Modi on Nehru missing Sardar Patel's funeral issued a correction and the Gujarat CM had expressed his thanks.

Political analysts say such mistakes show that Modi has a long way to go before establishing himself as a leader at the national level.

Noted sociologist Andre Beteille said Modi lacks the qualities of leaders he wants to emulate. "The comparison of Modi with Sardar Patel is false and misleading. Patel was mentioned as the original Lauh Purush (Iron Man) but he was a very well-read and soft-spoken man. I don't find these qualities in Modi," he said.

"Patel was a good lawyer with a great sense of history and was a fluent writer. The kind of mistakes Modi is making with historical facts is bound to happen, given the kind of message he wants to spread," Beteille said.

Political scientist Neera Chandhoke is of the view that Modi's team has made a critical error by focusing too much on generating headlines.

"Modi is out of his depth on issues not related to Gujarat. His speech writers are focusing too much on grabbing headlines but in the process his credibility is becoming a casualty," she said.

Chandhoke said it is highly debatable whether Modi's campaign approach is correct.

"His recent speeches show that he lacks statesmanlike qualities and has been unable to understand the country fully."

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:29 am

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Hitler was saying bad things about Jews just like Modi has said bad things about Muslims ( 'hum paanch, hamare pacchis' , etc. ) but he was also cooking up historical facts to try and make the German people feel great about themselves to the extent that many Germans started thinking they were a super race.
What about the politicians and others for the past 60 years wrongly blaming brahmins for denying knowledge in Sanskrit and Vedas long ago to others to justify caste based quotas in education and jobs to non-brahmins these days, which incidentally also breeds animosity and casteism against brahmins?
Those politicians who indulge in anti Brahmin or anti upper caste rhetoric should also be criticised.
Why not immediately get rid of the discriminatorty caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which work to the disadvantage of brahmins and others.
No political party wants to do what you are suggesting so we are stuck with the stupid 50% reservation scheme for now. By the way I agree with your suggestion completely.
It's amazing Indians (especially the Govt. & politicians) talk about all kinds of discrimination and communalism, but they make no mention of the most hideous caste discrimination: the caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which exclude many people.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:45 am

I haven't read the comments on this thread.

If Nitish Kumar is honest, he should compare Sonia to a dictator and Digvijaya to a cunning, lying rogue.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:52 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:What about the politicians and others for the past 60 years wrongly blaming brahmins for denying knowledge in Sanskrit and Vedas long ago to others to justify caste based quotas in education and jobs to non-brahmins these days, which incidentally also breeds animosity and casteism against brahmins?
Those politicians who indulge in anti Brahmin or anti upper caste rhetoric should also be criticised.
Why not immediately get rid of the discriminatorty caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which work to the disadvantage of brahmins and others.
No political party wants to do what you are suggesting so we are stuck with the stupid 50% reservation scheme for now. By the way I agree with your suggestion completely.
It's amazing Indians (especially the Govt. & politicians) talk about all kinds of discrimination and communalism, but they make no mention of the most hideous caste discrimination: the caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which exclude many people.
its also amazing that some indians that were historical beneficiaries of caste system that excluded vast swaths of population from basic human dignity and relegated them to chattel never free to learn or in advance in their lives whine incessantly when the shoe is marginally on the other foot. it's also amazing they never acknowledge historical culpability of their forefathers in perpetuating one of the worst system institutional slavery in the world and instead write interminable blogs making pathetic and outlandish revisionist excuses for it.

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Propagandhi711 wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Those politicians who indulge in anti Brahmin or anti upper caste rhetoric should also be criticised.
Why not immediately get rid of the discriminatorty caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which work to the disadvantage of brahmins and others.
No political party wants to do what you are suggesting so we are stuck with the stupid 50% reservation scheme for now. By the way I agree with your suggestion completely.
It's amazing Indians (especially the Govt. & politicians) talk about all kinds of discrimination and communalism, but they make no mention of the most hideous caste discrimination: the caste based quotas and privileges in education and jobs, which exclude many people.
its also amazing that some indians that were historical beneficiaries of caste system that excluded vast swaths of population from basic human dignity and relegated them to chattel never free to learn or in advance in their lives whine incessantly when the shoe is marginally on the other foot. it's also amazing they never acknowledge historical culpability of their forefathers in perpetuating one of the worst system institutional slavery in the world and instead write interminable blogs making pathetic and outlandish revisionist excuses for it.
Discrimination is bad but so is reverse discrimination. Giving 50% reservation to Dalits and OBC's is a form of reverse discrimination. Moreover it is true that Dalits faced discrimination in the past, but OBC people did not. The 27% reservation to OBC people is a complete sham.

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The BJP's prime ministerial candidate and Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, who had taken a head start over his political opponents with his aggressive campaigning, now appears to be faltering on historical and contemporary facts in his speeches.


Modi, whose strategy of addressing rallies on Sundays, telecast live on TV channels across the country and making newspaper headlines the next day, was giving sleepless nights to his opponents till his friend-turned-foe and Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar decided to challenge him on facts on Tuesday.

Kumar rebutted virtually every single point made by Modi during his massive rally in Patna on October 27. Even as Modi was struggling on historical facts related to Bihar, he was caught on the wrong foot when he said that India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru didn't attend the funeral of his home minister, Sardar Patel.

This confused even BJP leaders, with its deputy leader in the Rajya Sabha Ravi Shankar Prasad saying on Wednesday that Nehru not only skipped Sardar Patel's funeral but also missed the last rites of India's first President Rajendra Prasad.

However, another BJP spokesperson, Meenakshi Lekhi, said a newspaper which "misquoted" Modi on Nehru missing Sardar Patel's funeral issued a correction and the Gujarat CM had expressed his thanks.

Political analysts say such mistakes show that Modi has a long way to go before establishing himself as a leader at the national level.

Noted sociologist Andre Beteille said Modi lacks the qualities of leaders he wants to emulate. "The comparison of Modi with Sardar Patel is false and misleading. Patel was mentioned as the original Lauh Purush (Iron Man) but he was a very well-read and soft-spoken man. I don't find these qualities in Modi," he said.

"Patel was a good lawyer with a great sense of history and was a fluent writer. The kind of mistakes Modi is making with historical facts is bound to happen, given the kind of message he wants to spread," Beteille said.

Political scientist Neera Chandhoke is of the view that Modi's team has made a critical error by focusing too much on generating headlines.

"Modi is out of his depth on issues not related to Gujarat. His speech writers are focusing too much on grabbing headlines but in the process his credibility is becoming a casualty," she said.

Chandhoke said it is highly debatable whether Modi's campaign approach is correct.

"His recent speeches show that he lacks statesmanlike qualities and has been unable to understand the country fully."

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http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/narendra-modi-s-mistakes-give-foes-chance-to-teach-him-history/article1-1145612.aspx
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/editorial/narendra-modis-verity-malfunctions/articleshow/24901007.cms

Few things can be as self-defeating for a politician as claims that can be easily exposed as wrong. And, on that count, the number of times the BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi has been found on the wrong side of facts is surprisingly high. The latest instance is the claim about India's first PM, Jawaharlal Nehru, not attending the funeral of Sardar Patel.

That statement easily — and, via the Congress, expectedly gleefully — having been proved wrong, Modi has since "clarified" that he was misquoted. But, still, what explains the repeated cases of Narendra Modi getting it wrong? The tendency to twist history and facts to suit certain ends isn't any one party's monopoly. But when one is a prime ministerial contender, getting facts wrong can be quite counterproductive.

And it has happened with Modi on issues like claiming 8.4% growth during NDA rule, on Gujarat being the top investment destination in India, growth figures and development indices in the state, on gas "discoveries" of the state-owned company GSPC, of China spending 20% of GDP on education, of poverty being defined at .`26 per family per day, rather than per capita per day, of Alexander coming to the Ganges, of Chandragupta Maurya belonging to the Gupta dynasty, among others. Such departures from factual and conceptual rectitude do not serve his cause. The very notion of a top-post claimant being rather cavalier with the facts helps opponents.

There have been signs of Modi invoking a more inclusive rhetoric — and it remains to be seen if the dictates of running for the top post in a country like India modulate the hardliner perception. But whether it is deliberate fudging or overzealous aides funnelling wrong information, false claims only snip away the edges of the Modi image.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:39 pm

Bihar is in need of AAP. Hopefully, Hazare, Kejriwal and some honest Biharis start a movement in Bihar to rid the state of corruption, violence and misrule.

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