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Does half of India want reunification with Pakistan ?
This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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Of course...more than half of them routinely raise their hands every 5 years to the dynasty and the masters.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
So nothing surprising there.
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Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
>>> Vikram Chandra is a dumb fellow. Asking the audience in Delhi whether they want reunification is really silly when Pakistanis do not want it. India is already having a hard time dealing with SIMI and Indian Mujahideeen.
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>>> Watch the segment beginning 12:10, then you will realize why Pakistanis do not want reunification.
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Reunification now is a disaster for hindus. Only the PiSSniks and iSlamists will want unification so that the hindus can be enslaved very quickly using moghulism on them. Within 2 elections, the muslims will be a CLEAR majority and we all know that they all vote enblock like sheep for anyone as long as he is a muslim (how many muslim women are in Parliament?). Before you know they will be all over India buying away properties (anyone know of someone who has bought a muslim house in US or in India?)Rishi wrote:>>> Watch the segment beginning 12:10, then you will realize why Pakistanis do not want reunification.
Even the RSS has stopped blabbering about Akhand Bharat.
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We have no objection if northern India and any south state who want to be with them join Pak and form a country. Afterall Hindians and Pakistanis are the same people divided by religion about a 1000 years ago.
Muthuvel Karunanidhi had the right idea in 1975. When there is turmoil in New Delhi try to declare independence for Tamil Nadu.
Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli has also expressed a similar view in 1998.
"Yes, it is possible. None of the Tamil Nationalists, including myself, is under any illusion that the liberation of Tamil Nadu from Indian rule (Hindian rule, actually) will be easy or quick. Under certain geo-political situations it could be easy and quick but the development of such a situation is beyond anyone's control. Such geo-political situations emerge through unforeseen random events. Even for Tamil Nadu to get its freedom under such a fortune circumstance, there must be an "independence movement" ("freedom movement") alive and in place. Let me give an example."
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http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/0701.html
Muthuvel Karunanidhi had the right idea in 1975. When there is turmoil in New Delhi try to declare independence for Tamil Nadu.
Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli has also expressed a similar view in 1998.
"Yes, it is possible. None of the Tamil Nationalists, including myself, is under any illusion that the liberation of Tamil Nadu from Indian rule (Hindian rule, actually) will be easy or quick. Under certain geo-political situations it could be easy and quick but the development of such a situation is beyond anyone's control. Such geo-political situations emerge through unforeseen random events. Even for Tamil Nadu to get its freedom under such a fortune circumstance, there must be an "independence movement" ("freedom movement") alive and in place. Let me give an example."
Excerpted from
http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/0701.html
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and what was their reason? nobody in their right mind would agree to such a nonsensical proposition, it'd be worse than nuclear attack.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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most ignorants ( and most indians are ignorants ) dont realize that muslim population is increasing . so they vote for reunification .
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>>>>This is curious. The only two sets that would seem to be emotionally invested in this idea are certain extremist muslim groups and the akhand bharat group, each side with its own agenda. I didn't watch the video, but wonder the demographic makeup of the audience was.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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The third set is a section of secular people. Akhand bharat types want some kind of Hindu rashtra, but secular people want united India under a strong, secular govt.Kris wrote:>>>>This is curious. The only two sets that would seem to be emotionally invested in this idea are certain extremist muslim groups and the akhand bharat group, each side with its own agenda. I didn't watch the video, but wonder the demographic makeup of the audience was.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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How would you react if a leading Pakistani paper published an article pleading for reunification with India ?Rishi wrote:>>> Watch the segment beginning 12:10, then you will realize why Pakistanis do not want reunification.
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>>>I think that segment may have dwindled substantially with the way things have unfolded over the past 3 or 4 decades. Pakistan's fundamentalism is a fait accompli, with it getting further and further into the fundamentalism that has become entrenched in the islamic world. The politicians have either bought into it themselves or played this up (Musharaff) for their own benefit (Jinnah comes to mind here). When you are that far into it, it is an impossibility to re-incorporate into a secular model. The ascendancy of India's religious right is a response to this and the wars- both actual and proxy- waged by Pakistan. Within Pakistan, there appears to be a sense of helplessness among the intelligentsia with regard to where that country is headed. India would be better off to completely disengage on this front.Rashmun wrote:The third set is a section of secular people. Akhand bharat types want some kind of Hindu rashtra, but secular people want united India under a strong, secular govt.Kris wrote:>>>>This is curious. The only two sets that would seem to be emotionally invested in this idea are certain extremist muslim groups and the akhand bharat group, each side with its own agenda. I didn't watch the video, but wonder the demographic makeup of the audience was.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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I disagree. I think the reverse is true and many people in both India and Pakistan are getting fed up of religious fundamentalism and extremism. As evidence of what I say, consider the fact that the following article, pleading for reunification of India with Pakistsn was published in a leading Pakistani paper this year:Kris wrote:>>>I think that segment may have dwindled substantially with the way things have unfolded over the past 3 or 4 decades. Pakistan's fundamentalism is a fait accompli, with it getting further and further into the fundamentalism that has become entrenched in the islamic world. The politicians have either bought into it themselves or played this up (Musharaff) for their own benefit (Jinnah comes to mind here). When you are that far into it, it is an impossibility to re-incorporate into a secular model. The ascendancy of India's religious right is a response to this and the wars- both actual and proxy- waged by Pakistan. Within Pakistan, there appears to be a sense of helplessness among the intelligentsia with regard to where that country is headed. India would be better off to completely disengage on this front.Rashmun wrote:The third set is a section of secular people. Akhand bharat types want some kind of Hindu rashtra, but secular people want united India under a strong, secular govt.Kris wrote:>>>>This is curious. The only two sets that would seem to be emotionally invested in this idea are certain extremist muslim groups and the akhand bharat group, each side with its own agenda. I didn't watch the video, but wonder the demographic makeup of the audience was.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/columns/02-Mar-2013/the-truth-about-pakistan
I doubt if such an article questioning the very existence of Pakistan could have been published in the earlier history of Pakistan.
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>>>I will get to the article a little later today. Briefly, here is my POV:Rashmun wrote:I disagree. I think the reverse is true and many people in both India and Pakistan are getting fed up of religious fundamentalism and extremism. As evidence of what I say, consider the fact that the following article, pleading for reunification of India with Pakistsn was published in a leading Pakistani paper this year:Kris wrote:>>>I think that segment may have dwindled substantially with the way things have unfolded over the past 3 or 4 decades. Pakistan's fundamentalism is a fait accompli, with it getting further and further into the fundamentalism that has become entrenched in the islamic world. The politicians have either bought into it themselves or played this up (Musharaff) for their own benefit (Jinnah comes to mind here). When you are that far into it, it is an impossibility to re-incorporate into a secular model. The ascendancy of India's religious right is a response to this and the wars- both actual and proxy- waged by Pakistan. Within Pakistan, there appears to be a sense of helplessness among the intelligentsia with regard to where that country is headed. India would be better off to completely disengage on this front.Rashmun wrote:The third set is a section of secular people. Akhand bharat types want some kind of Hindu rashtra, but secular people want united India under a strong, secular govt.Kris wrote:>>>>This is curious. The only two sets that would seem to be emotionally invested in this idea are certain extremist muslim groups and the akhand bharat group, each side with its own agenda. I didn't watch the video, but wonder the demographic makeup of the audience was.Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/columns/02-Mar-2013/the-truth-about-pakistan
I doubt if such an article questioning the very existence of Pakistan could have been published in the earlier history of Pakistan.
Religion is an integral part of the culture and cannot be wished away; the best you can do on this front is put distance between it and governance (the true secular model). The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
Pakistan is a pariah state, even within the Islamic world, as it is a one-trick pony ('land of the pure' nonsense). It survived from handouts from America which naively thought it was going to be this great buffer against the Soviets, not thinking beyond this. The Soviets crashed and we are left with the 'epicenter' of terrorism. After six decades of independence, the country is still a feudalistic society and an economic basket-case, with various terrorist groups having the run of the place. India by contrast, whatever its problems, is a force to be reckoned with, in terms of global commerce and as a stable democracy. Why take on the additional burden of reincorporating a people who have never known a functioning democracy or a vibrant economy or an enlightened view of religious plurality?
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indonesia has a per capita gdp greater than india's, a sex ratio better than india's, female literacy rate of 86.6% compared to india's 65.5%, an infant mortaility rate of 26.6/1000 as opposed to india's 44.6/1000. i could go on and on.Kris wrote:The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
at least one more islmaic society besides turkey has managed to far better than mostly hindu india on many counts.
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>>>Indonesia has the benefit of distance from the core of the Islamic world. Nevertheless, Pakistan is not going to be Indonesia anytime soon.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:indonesia has a per capita gdp greater than india's, a sex ratio better than india's, female literacy rate of 86.6% compared to india's 65.5%, an infant mortaility rate of 26.6/1000 as opposed to india's 44.6/1000. i could go on and on.Kris wrote:The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
at least one more islmaic society besides turkey has managed to far better than mostly hindu india on many counts.
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i am not for reunification. i think it's a daft idea, but i was just questioning your assertion about islamic societies.Kris wrote:>>>Indonesia has the benefit of distance from the core of the Islamic world. Nevertheless, Pakistan is not going to be Indonesia anytime soon.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:indonesia has a per capita gdp greater than india's, a sex ratio better than india's, female literacy rate of 86.6% compared to india's 65.5%, an infant mortaility rate of 26.6/1000 as opposed to india's 44.6/1000. i could go on and on.Kris wrote:The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
at least one more islmaic society besides turkey has managed to far better than mostly hindu india on many counts.
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Indonesia as a country switched over and Adapted iSlam....it did not grow by killing hindus - which they were earlier.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:indonesia has a per capita gdp greater than india's, a sex ratio better than india's, female literacy rate of 86.6% compared to india's 65.5%, an infant mortaility rate of 26.6/1000 as opposed to india's 44.6/1000. i could go on and on.Kris wrote:The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
at least one more islmaic society besides turkey has managed to far better than mostly hindu india on many counts.
iSlamic societies dont read mahabharata and take hindu names and put up Saraswati statues in front of their embassies. Indonesia is a hindu society that follows iSlam.
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>>>My broader point about Islamic societies was that they are not amenable to secularism, due to the nature of the religion (Turkey being an exception, albeit a precarious one). The economic backwardness was a point I made specifically about Pakistan. I am not that familiar with Indonesia's situation, but there was a simplification of the national language with much fewer letters, a move that resulted in literacy rates taking a huge leap (if I recall correctly). I am more familiar with Malaysia, which could also come out better on many metrics, but even in that society, there is fundamentalist creep and second class citizenship of Hindus.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i am not for reunification. i think it's a daft idea, but i was just questioning your assertion about islamic societies.Kris wrote:>>>Indonesia has the benefit of distance from the core of the Islamic world. Nevertheless, Pakistan is not going to be Indonesia anytime soon.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:indonesia has a per capita gdp greater than india's, a sex ratio better than india's, female literacy rate of 86.6% compared to india's 65.5%, an infant mortaility rate of 26.6/1000 as opposed to india's 44.6/1000. i could go on and on.Kris wrote:The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
at least one more islmaic society besides turkey has managed to far better than mostly hindu india on many counts.
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Turkey is slowly and cautiously tetering back thanks to the AKP. They curbed the Military's power and are slowly reintroducing Islamization.
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It probably isn't any different in Indonesia either. I had a friend who was from Indonesia. He is someone with chinese origins, whose ancestors immigrated to Indonesia. He is a christian and was so glad to be out of Indonesia. He talked about the discrimination and acrimony he had to face in the muslim majority community. According to him, life wasn't easy there for a non-muslim.Kris wrote:>>>I am more familiar with Malaysia, which could also come out better on many metrics, but even in that society, there is fundamentalist creep and second class citizenship of Hindus.
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Pakistan is the biggest threat to the world with loads of medieval barbarians, and you want to Unify India with it ? Do you need to prove again and again that your thinking is flawed ?Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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I am simply reporting what I observed.rawemotions wrote:Pakistan is the biggest threat to the world with loads of medieval barbarians, and you want to Unify India with it. Are you a moron ?Rashmun wrote:This is the link to the latest episode of the 'Big Fight' program on ndtv channel:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/india-s-security-concerns/296592?pfrom=home-topstories
In the middle of the debate, the host Vikram Chandra turns around to his audience and asks those who want reunification with India to raise their hands. According to Chandra and some of the other guests on the show, a little less than half of the audience raised their hands.
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Only a Moron would assume that a 10 or 20 folks out of 50 would equate to half of India (1.2 Billion strong).
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Are you panicking ? If the host Vikram Chandra did not think it was a representative audience he would not have asked for a show of hands. And where are you pulling the numbers 10,20,50 from ?rawemotions wrote:Only a Moron would assume that a 10 or 20 folks out of 50 would equate to half of India (1.2 Billion strong).
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Indonesia's iSlam came through India and is quite mild. Wahabis consider it half-kafir. Just imagine a Muslim country with hindu names for people and institutions (sukarna, Meghavati, Susila, putra, putri, Garuda.....) and that allows a place like Bali to succeed.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:indonesia has a per capita gdp greater than india's, a sex ratio better than india's, female literacy rate of 86.6% compared to india's 65.5%, an infant mortaility rate of 26.6/1000 as opposed to india's 44.6/1000. i could go on and on.Kris wrote:The problem is that Islamic societies are not able to pull this off, because of the nature of the religion which has diktats on governance. Turkey is the only exception to this and it had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this model by a dictatorial Kemal Ataturk to accomplish this and even decades after this transformation, it is still a 'push and pull' scenario with Islamists having to be kept at bay by the army.
at least one more islmaic society besides turkey has managed to far better than mostly hindu india on many counts.
If you want to choose a gold standard for iSalamic countries, choose Saudi Arabia, Nigeria or PakiSatan.
Coming to Rashmun's topic on reunification of India with Pakis, I suppose sikular fukularists would like to do that for vote bank politics. CONmen are a worried lot. They are scared in their pants that they will be booted out of power in 2014. So, in desperation, they may even invite Bihari Muslims of Bangldesh, ai Qaeda and the Taliban into India. They sell their mothers if that brings them power and money.
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I would guess there would be a large segment of Indian Muslims who would oppose any direct link with Pakistan or its mullahs.
it is true that Islam has pan national links and small segments of Islamits go over national borders.
but Islam has national character . Arabic area Islamists are closely related culturally but malaysian and Indonesia Muslims are a different culture and seem to process data differently. similarly Muslims of south Africa and west Indies think and act differently.
after 60 years of total separation majority of Indian Muslims think very differently from their Pakistani counterparts. the good news is that 1947 happened. India moved on.
it is true that Islam has pan national links and small segments of Islamits go over national borders.
but Islam has national character . Arabic area Islamists are closely related culturally but malaysian and Indonesia Muslims are a different culture and seem to process data differently. similarly Muslims of south Africa and west Indies think and act differently.
after 60 years of total separation majority of Indian Muslims think very differently from their Pakistani counterparts. the good news is that 1947 happened. India moved on.
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Originally you said you simply posted this, and is not forming an opinion, now it sounds like you want Pakistanis. If you care about them, please leave India and go and live in Pakistan. There will be many people there willing to listen to your never ending attempts to portray those barbarians as normal people. Please leave India alone. Pakistan is a headache for the entire world.Rashmun wrote:Are you panicking ? If the host Vikram Chandra did not think it was a representative audience he would not have asked for a show of hands. And where are you pulling the numbers 10,20,50 from ?rawemotions wrote:Only a Moron would assume that a 10 or 20 folks out of 50 would equate to half of India (1.2 Billion strong).
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Where I live is irrelevant for the purpose of this discussion. Pakistan and India were once one country and it is inevitable that they will some day reunite. The question is: will the reunification take place in 50-100 years or a 1000 years ?rawemotions wrote:Originally you said you simply posted this, and is not forming an opinion, now it sounds like you want Pakistanis. If you care about them, please leave India and go and live in Pakistan. There will be many people there willing to listen to your never ending attempts to portray those barbarians as normal people. Please leave India alone. Pakistan is a headache for the entire world.Rashmun wrote:Are you panicking ? If the host Vikram Chandra did not think it was a representative audience he would not have asked for a show of hands. And where are you pulling the numbers 10,20,50 from ?rawemotions wrote:Only a Moron would assume that a 10 or 20 folks out of 50 would equate to half of India (1.2 Billion strong).
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no it isn't inevitable. it is entirely evitable. i share nothing in common with the millions of highly devout pakistanis to whom religion is more important than co-existence, wonderment at art and science, and the freedom to live as one pleases.Rashmun wrote:Where I live is irrelevant for the purpose of this discussion. Pakistan and India were once one country and it is inevitable that they will some day reunite. The question is: will the reunification take place in 50-100 years or a 1000 years ?rawemotions wrote:Originally you said you simply posted this, and is not forming an opinion, now it sounds like you want Pakistanis. If you care about them, please leave India and go and live in Pakistan. There will be many people there willing to listen to your never ending attempts to portray those barbarians as normal people. Please leave India alone. Pakistan is a headache for the entire world.Rashmun wrote:Are you panicking ? If the host Vikram Chandra did not think it was a representative audience he would not have asked for a show of hands. And where are you pulling the numbers 10,20,50 from ?rawemotions wrote:Only a Moron would assume that a 10 or 20 folks out of 50 would equate to half of India (1.2 Billion strong).
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Having grown up in Hyderabad among Muslims I say NEVER to reunification. I don't have any hatred towards Muslims but they are different and they seek a different chunk of land for themselves so let them have it.
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Re: Does half of India want reunification with Pakistan ?
Telugu sameta : korivi to tala gokkunnatlu. (this reunification would like scratching your head with a burning wood).
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Re: Does half of India want reunification with Pakistan ?
Hyderabadi Muslims are different from UP Muslims. Hyderabadi Muslims have their own political party which always wins assembly and Lok Sabha seats from Muslim areas in Hyderabad. In contrast, UP Muslims do not have their own party. They vote for the strongest non-BJP candidate (SP, BSP, or Cong typically). The situation is similar in Bihar, Jharkhand, West Bengal, etc. Hyderabad also has a history of frequently occurring communal incidents and riots post independence. This can be contrasted with a city like Lucknow which has not seen communal riots after independence.nevada wrote:Having grown up in Hyderabad among Muslims I say NEVER to reunification. I don't have any hatred towards Muslims but they are different and they seek a different chunk of land for themselves so let them have it.
Hyderabadi hindus are also more communal than UP Hindus as per my observation.
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