The problem with the Congress party in India...

...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

>> My question was not about JJ worshippers prostrating before her.

It was about why it took you such a long time to figure out that the fellows belonging to Congress party "lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian."

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

I have been thinking... Those who prostrate in front of Mommy are younger than her. So by hindu custom, it is not totally awful to fall at an elders feet....hmmm.... This is not too far from the Naarthies touching the feet of elders - any and all and sundry. Modi touching Advani feet for example despite the animosity and ill-will between them.

But, to vocally support the Dynasty - no matter what - and then "claiming" congress to be a "democratic" party and Shezada last year criticizing lack of democracy within congress and favoring dynasty members - is what I call farting from both ends.

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

>> My question was not about JJ worshippers prostrating before her.

It was about why it took you such a long time to figure out that the fellows belonging to Congress party "lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian."

And what makes you think that I just figured it out? Maybe it is endemic among most Indians, to cult worship someone. Case in point, the Mommy! worshipping Tamils.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

I have been thinking... Those who prostrate in front of Mommy are younger than her. So by hindu custom, it is not totally awful to fall at an elders feet....hmmm.... This is not too far from the Naarthies touching the feet of elders - any and all and sundry.  Modi touching Advani feet for example despite the animosity and ill-will between them.

But, to vocally support the Dynasty - no matter what - and then "claiming" congress to be a "democratic" party and Shezada last year criticizing lack of democracy within congress and favoring dynasty members - is what I call farting from both ends.

Are you sure they are all younger than her?

===> The AIADMK party which is headed by Jayalalitha has its origins in DMK which again is an offshoot of DK, a party started by E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker a virulent anti-brahmin. 

People like EVR must be rolling in their graves to see a dravidian party is now being  headed by a Brahmin lady and OBC fellows falling at her feet.

JJ cleverly co-opted the Dravidian platform and fellows like karunanidhi are fuming that half of the non-brahmin population in TN are now worshipping a Brahmin woman.

Btw have you seen any Brahmin guy in TN prostrating before her?

She is no more corrupt than DMK goons. Kudos to her. 

I think more brahmins should join DK, DMK and simply take over and change the very character of those parties..

Rishi wrote:===> The AIADMK party which is headed by Jayalalitha has its origins in DMK which again is an offshoot of DK, a party started by E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker a virulent anti-brahmin. 

People like EVR must be rolling in their graves to see a dravidian party is now being  headed by a Brahmin lady and OBC fellows falling at her feet.

JJ cleverly co-opted the Dravidian platform and fellows like karunanidhi are fuming that half of the non-brahmin population in TN are now worshipping a Brahmin woman.

Btw have you seen any Brahmin guy in TN prostrating before her?

She is no more corrupt than DMK goons. Kudos to her. 

I think more brahmins should join DK, DMK and simply take over and change the very character of those parties..

A lot of angst there, Paparajan.

"any Brahmin guy in TN prostrating before her? - I wouldn't know. But I am sure if you search, you will find quite a few.
"

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

>> My question was not about JJ worshippers prostrating before her.

It was about why it took you such a long time to figure out that the fellows belonging to Congress party "lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian."

And what makes you think that I just figured it out? Maybe it is  endemic among most Indians, to cult worship someone. Case in point, the Mommy! worshipping Tamils.

>>>> You may be onto something here. Sonia and Mommy are simply capitalizing on this.

Kris wrote: You may be onto something here. Sonia and Mommy are simply capitalizing on this.

That is the root cause of hindudom. They MUST have a straing head of a family, head of a town, panchayat, state, party, country who would TELL others what to do. That job is easy in monarchy. Now, Indians are practicing the same in "democratically." in politics, government, corporate practice, movies, sports.

This is nothing but modern version of Varnashram.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Kris wrote: You may be onto something here. Sonia and Mommy are simply capitalizing on this.

That is the root cause of hindudom. They MUST have a straing head of a family, head of a town, panchayat, state, party, country who would TELL others what to do. That job is easy in monarchy. Now, Indians are practicing the same in "democratically." in politics, government, corporate practice, movies, sports.

This is nothing but modern version of Varnashram.

>>> The pope tells Catholics all over the world what to do and how to live. That is one big cult. Ayatollah Khomeni told what Shia Muslims should do. Imam Bhukari tells what Indian Muslims should do.

Rishi wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Kris wrote: You may be onto something here. Sonia and Mommy are simply capitalizing on this.

That is the root cause of hindudom. They MUST have a straing head of a family, head of a town, panchayat, state, party, country who would TELL others what to do. That job is easy in monarchy. Now, Indians are practicing the same in "democratically." in politics, government, corporate practice, movies, sports.

This is nothing but modern version of Varnashram.

>>> The pope tells Catholics all over the world what to do and how to live. That is one big cult. Ayatollah Khomeni told what Shia Muslims should do. Imam Bhukari tells what Indian Muslims should do.

Indian Muslims are not a monolith. There are divisions and subdivisions. There are also frequent clashes between the deobandis ( who are more hard core) and barelvis ( who are more liberal). By tagging the liberals together with the fundamentalists you are being unfair to the liberals in my opinion.

Rashmun wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Kris wrote: You may be onto something here. Sonia and Mommy are simply capitalizing on this.

That is the root cause of hindudom. They MUST have a straing head of a family, head of a town, panchayat, state, party, country who would TELL others what to do. That job is easy in monarchy. Now, Indians are practicing the same in "democratically." in politics, government, corporate practice, movies, sports.

This is nothing but modern version of Varnashram.

>>> The pope tells Catholics all over the world what to do and how to live. That is one big cult. Ayatollah Khomeni told what Shia Muslims should do. Imam Bhukari tells what Indian Muslims should do.

Indian Muslims are not a monolith. There are divisions and subdivisions. There are also frequent clashes between the deobandis ( who are more hard core) and barelvis ( who are more liberal). By tagging the liberals together with the fundamentalists you are being unfair to the liberals in my opinion.

You lack credibility...and all your statement are full of holes.

Have you found evidence to support your strong, firm, conviction that Muslims were 15% of Indian population in 1951

Rishi wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Kris wrote: You may be onto something here. Sonia and Mommy are simply capitalizing on this.

That is the root cause of hindudom. They MUST have a straing head of a family, head of a town, panchayat, state, party, country who would TELL others what to do. That job is easy in monarchy. Now, Indians are practicing the same in "democratically." in politics, government, corporate practice, movies, sports.

This is nothing but modern version of Varnashram.

>>> The pope tells Catholics all over the world what to do and how to live. That is one big cult. Ayatollah Khomeni told what Shia Muslims should do. Imam Bhukari tells what Indian Muslims should do.

>>> The Pope can talk about rules all day long, the Christendom (most of which was under the pope's religious jurisdiction) in the middle ages did question the church and develop science. The equation with Islam does not work. I hope you are not justifying the 'Sonia/Mommy as Savior' complex because the Khomeini and Bukhari followers do it too.

Hellsangel wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

Rishi wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

>>> it took such a long time for you to figure this out?

It is not very different from Mommy! worshippers prostrating before her.

I have been thinking... Those who prostrate in front of Mommy are younger than her. So by hindu custom, it is not totally awful to fall at an elders feet....hmmm.... This is not too far from the Naarthies touching the feet of elders - any and all and sundry.  Modi touching Advani feet for example despite the animosity and ill-will between them.

But, to vocally support the Dynasty - no matter what - and then "claiming" congress to be a "democratic" party and Shezada last year criticizing lack of democracy within congress and favoring dynasty members - is what I call farting from both ends.

Are you sure they are all younger than her?

>>>Don't know, but I can state with certainty they all skinnier!

Hellsangel wrote:...in my opinion, is that they lack any self esteem and feel compelled to support the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty even if it is now headed by a non Indian.

As far as I can see, the party has no ideology and no scruples and will do whatever it takes to stay in power. They are highly short term focused and never think of long term safety, security and sustainability of the country.
 

They put a mask on whatever they do to stay in power with innocent sounding terms, favoring one community which was actually a former ruling class, over another (inherently non-secular) is couched as "inclusive growth".

The party claims they are for socialism,  but there is massive economic disparity in India, despite they ruling for most of the last 60 years. They do not seem to know how to build prosperity either, apart from giving doles with tax payers money, which make the citizens dependent on government rather than sustaining families with job creation opportunities. They have a pathetic record on employment generation (if we exclude the dole based NREGA), with most of the 18 million folks coming into the workforce each year, have no 
hope for sustained employment. 
 
They party claims they want to fight poverty, but despite ruling most of the past 60 years, still people go hungry. and they are now bringing an unfunded food bill which will target 65% of the population (almost 1/9th) of the world population, with no explanation as to why there were past famines during their administration, and why they failed to handle poverty.

That is why the divert the attention of people and their talking points involve irrelevant quotes from Digvijay singh and his likes, and along with stooges of congress in this forum like Rashmun run a complete negative campaign and divert attention to topics (non-issues) like Secularism OR force completely polarized versions or anti-constitutional policies like the communal violence bill . They have nothing to show and are only interested in negative campaigns, so that the youth do not inquire into their pathetic record on economics or employment generation.

They are the ones who are already in power, they do not talk about what they have done, the reason behind their failed promises or how they plan to rectify it or their vision for future.  Instead they only talk about the challenger and are indulging mud-slinging of his name, and nothing else.