a tangential perspective on caste dominance & its relevance to Telangana bifurcation

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:15 am

french woman's dissertation, no less.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:29 am

wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?

by Guest Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:32 am

nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:33 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?

my dear, why question something that works to your advantage?

by Guest Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:34 am

pravalika nanda wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?
my dear, why question something that works to your advantage?

no advantage for me really, am too old and out. just got curious based on most gult men i have known.

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:36 am

I am interested in history so I watched all of it. it gives a fresh, welcome perspective that narratives coming out of AP dont provide, which are always partisan.

it didnt hurt that she has the prettiest eyes

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:43 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?

speaking for myself I dont know if that's really true...round, chubby & wide faces dont do anything for me, regardless of place of origin.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:46 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?
my dear, why question something that works to your advantage?

no advantage for me really, am too old and out. just got curious based on most gult men i have known.

you COULD ask propa but knowing his personality he will not oblige.
you have several advantages: you have an ex you can fool around with whenever you want, you control the button. you have children you can have fun with and you can be secure knowing that you are loved. you have a job which gives you some knowledge of the world as well as financial independence. you should get to know some nice men and do what you want with them, go out, plan trips, play tennis, have fun, make friends and move on. and tracy, please go shopping and tell us all about it.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:50 am

oh, you're all surprises this year.

by Guest Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:54 am

pravalika nanda wrote:
you have several advantages: you have an ex you can fool around with whenever you want, you control the button. you have children you can have fun with and you can be secure knowing that you are loved. you have a job which gives you some knowledge of the world as well as financial independence.

yes you are right about this part. i was mostly talking about the advantage of gult men liking non-gults women. i don't have that advantage mostly coz i don't care for it.

pravalika nanda wrote:
you should get to know some nice men and do what you want with them, go out, plan trips, play tennis, have fun, make friends and move on. and tracy, please go shopping and tell us all about it.

go shopping for men? no that's over. had a short stint of that, and heh, xh is far better than any pappu or freaku i met out there.

by Guest Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:55 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?

speaking for myself I dont know if that's really true...round, chubby & wide faces dont do anything for me, regardless of place of origin.

isn't sridevi gult?

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:57 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:nandu, why do most gult men like wonly non-gult women?

speaking for myself I dont know if that's really true...round, chubby & wide faces dont do anything for me, regardless of place of origin.

isn't sridevi gult?

dunno..thot she was thambini

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:59 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
you have several advantages: you have an ex you can fool around with whenever you want, you control the button. you have children you can have fun with and you can be secure knowing that you are loved. you have a job which gives you some knowledge of the world as well as financial independence.

yes you are right about this part. i was mostly talking about the advantage of gult men liking non-gults women. i don't have that advantage mostly coz i don't care for it.

>>>> go on.*reaches for lotion*

by smArtha Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:16 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:
go shopping for men? no that's over. had a short stint of that, and heh, xh is far better than any pappu or freaku i met out there.

So, in the absence of better men in the market, you settled back for XH.
Me thinks, it is time for review & compare shopping websites to enter this market too :-)

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:24 am

smArtha wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
go shopping for men? no that's over. had a short stint of that, and heh, xh is far better than any pappu or freaku i met out there.

So, in the absence of better men in the market, you settled back for XH.
Me thinks, it is time for review & compare shopping websites to enter this market too :-)

there already are: ashleymadison.com among others

by Guest Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:31 am

smArtha wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
go shopping for men? no that's over. had a short stint of that, and heh, xh is far better than any pappu or freaku i met out there.

So, in the absence of better men in the market, you settled back for XH.
Me thinks, it is time for review & compare shopping websites to enter this market too :-)

no that's not what i meant Sad

i didn't 'settle back for XH'. We are not 'back together'. We are good friends, roomies and co-parents. I simply gave up the idea of having a boyfriend. Not gonna go looking for anyone. Have lost all interest. Besides, will be too much to explain to kids. Will screw them up, and even if not them, will definitely screw their dad up. Also, I became such a homebody in last one year, tough to go out by myself too.

by michelle2 Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:50 am

pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?

ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.

by Hellsangel Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:53 am

michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.

michellulu, you no longer want to be dreamgirlulu? Are you much obsessed with cashtu?

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:59 am

Hellsangel wrote:
michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.
michellulu, you no longer want to be dreamgirlulu? Are you much obsessed with cashtu?

uh oh...the virile1's had a sex change operation?

by indophile Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:01 pm

michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.

Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

by Hellsangel Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:04 pm

indophile wrote:
michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.
Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

http://www.academia.edu/attachments/30521289/download_file

Look at the number of languages she speaks.

An article in The Hindu about her:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/21/stories/2008012153260400.htm

by michelle2 Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:08 pm

indophile wrote:
michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.
Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

i wonder if those hyderabadi muslims have as many connections to france, the french language, and french universities as algerians do, and if they speak english with a french accent.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:12 pm

michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.

no actually she's not that algerian-looking. until she opened her mouth i thought she was telugu. and i trust you'll agree with me that learning about andhra pradesh or my caste is of no use to me. i'm not going back to a country if i cannot walk on its streets at 7pm without fear of losing my treasured chastity.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:16 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
indophile wrote:
michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.
Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

http://www.academia.edu/attachments/30521289/download_file

Look at the number of languages she speaks.

An article in The Hindu about her:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/21/stories/2008012153260400.htm

a lot of people in france are of german origin and have german last names, they speak both french and german and if you're educated you end up speaking english too. for her the algerian french german english part is easily explained. now learning hindi and telugu commendable.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:17 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
you have several advantages: you have an ex you can fool around with whenever you want, you control the button. you have children you can have fun with and you can be secure knowing that you are loved. you have a job which gives you some knowledge of the world as well as financial independence.

yes you are right about this part. i was mostly talking about the advantage of gult men liking non-gults women. i don't have that advantage mostly coz i don't care for it.

>>>> go on.*reaches for lotion*

i'd rather you surprise me.

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:25 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
you have several advantages: you have an ex you can fool around with whenever you want, you control the button. you have children you can have fun with and you can be secure knowing that you are loved. you have a job which gives you some knowledge of the world as well as financial independence.

yes you are right about this part. i was mostly talking about the advantage of gult men liking non-gults women. i don't have that advantage mostly coz i don't care for it.

>>>> go on.*reaches for lotion*
i'd rather you surprise me.

why wimmens always wanting to be surprised? you know what would be surprising? you come home to discover that someone left a big steaming pile of dump on your coffee table. that would probably make your day

by indophile Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:25 pm

She does sound like an Arab speaking English, not a French person speaking English. I had an Egyptian Copt and a Syrian Christian (i.e., really from Syria) colleagues in the past, and this woman sounds like them.

by Hellsangel Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:34 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
indophile wrote:
michelle2 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:wow, she looks like a telugu girl!

I couldn't watch past the first 7 mins of it, soporific sociology dining room chatter made interesting cuz a French girl is studying. btw when I was in Chicago a girl from minn was studying tyagaraja kritis.

How many minutes of it did you tolerate?
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.
Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

http://www.academia.edu/attachments/30521289/download_file

Look at the number of languages she speaks.

An article in The Hindu about her:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/21/stories/2008012153260400.htm

a lot of people in france are of german origin and have german last names, they speak both french and german and if you're educated you end up speaking english too. for her the algerian french german english part is easily explained. now learning hindi and telugu commendable.

Janice, how did you come to this conclusion?

by Guest Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:41 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:

yes you are right about this part. i was mostly talking about the advantage of gult men liking non-gults women. i don't have that advantage mostly coz i don't care for it.

>>>> go on.*reaches for lotion*
i'd rather you surprise me.

why wimmens always wanting to be surprised? you know what would be surprising? you come home to discover that someone left a big steaming pile of dump on your coffee table. that would probably make your day

someone kept a dead parrot on my usual seat in college first year. But someone else informed me of it before we were to go back to the classroom after practicals. Ran upstairs with him and my only girl classmate/friend, saw the dead parrot, got all hot faced and went out of the class until the two of them removed the parrot and cleaned up. Then I went in and sat there before others came in. Escaped public humiliation and drama, but boy was that the moment i wondered why people hated me so much.

by truthbetold Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:59 pm

Looks like most of you have watched the video and have lot of.opinions about the presentation. when you come around to those comments i promise to read all of them.

the impression i got was she did some real leg work and some reading. information quoted by her seems to be factual. it is commendable that she did so much background work.

having said that i must say that she did not uncover or provide any new facts that were already not known to most people.
i have to disagree with many conclusions she drew from the known facts.
telangana agricultural land grab is not a credible argument. facts do not support such claims. migration, i thought, was a sign of progressive thinking. she makes that into an argument for economic exploitation.

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:13 pm

truthbetold wrote:Looks like most of you have watched the video and have lot of.opinions about the presentation. when you come around to those comments i promise to read all of them.

the impression i got was she did some real leg work and some reading. information quoted by her seems to be factual. it is commendable that she did so much background work.

having said that i must say that she did not uncover or provide any new facts that were already not known to most people.
i have to disagree with many conclusions she drew from the known facts.
telangana agricultural land grab is not a credible argument. facts do not support such claims. migration, i thought, was a sign of progressive thinking. she makes that into an argument for economic exploitation.

she be a major league communisto leftie (as most academics are, particularly euro academics) fighting the system, whatver the system maybe, in the mold of arundhati roy, so not surprising she views anything and everything as exploitative.

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:15 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
indophile wrote:
michelle2 wrote:
ben-bab-a'ali sounds like an algerian name, and she looks like the algerian woman she probably is. and she probably knows much more about andhra pradesh and your caste than you do.
Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

http://www.academia.edu/attachments/30521289/download_file

Look at the number of languages she speaks.

An article in The Hindu about her:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/21/stories/2008012153260400.htm

a lot of people in france are of german origin and have german last names, they speak both french and german and if you're educated you end up speaking english too. for her the algerian french german english part is easily explained. now learning hindi and telugu commendable.

Janice, how did you come to this conclusion?

you ask that question as if she has a history of having well thought out opinions based on fact.

by truthbetold Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:24 pm

"a lot ....... of German origin". it is not a conclusion. it is a fact.

by Hellsangel Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:29 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
indophile wrote:
Could be. There are many Hyderabadi moslems married to Turkish, Iranian, and Arab gals/guys.

http://www.academia.edu/attachments/30521289/download_file

Look at the number of languages she speaks.

An article in The Hindu about her:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/21/stories/2008012153260400.htm

a lot of people in france are of german origin and have german last names, they speak both french and german and if you're educated you end up speaking english too. for her the algerian french german english part is easily explained. now learning hindi and telugu commendable.

Janice, how did you come to this conclusion?

you ask that question as if she has a history of having well thought out opinions based on fact.

No. But I expect her answer to be most amusing.

by Idéfix Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:41 pm

truthbetold wrote:the impression i got was she did some real leg work and some reading. information quoted by her seems to be factual. it is commendable that she did so much background work.

having said that i must say that she did not uncover or provide any new facts that were already not known to most people.

Agree on both points. More about her conclusions later.

by pravalika nanda Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:35 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:

yes you are right about this part. i was mostly talking about the advantage of gult men liking non-gults women. i don't have that advantage mostly coz i don't care for it.

>>>> go on.*reaches for lotion*
i'd rather you surprise me.

why wimmens always wanting to be surprised? you know what would be surprising? you come home to discover that someone left a big steaming pile of dump on your coffee table. that would probably make your day

and you know this cuz ...you have a glow-in-the-dark piglet that leaves you this gift every morning?

by truthbetold Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:11 am

Idéfix wrote:
truthbetold wrote:the impression i got was she did some real leg work and some reading. information quoted by her seems to be factual. it is commendable that she did so much background work.

having said that i must say that she did not uncover or provide any new facts that were already not known to most people.
Agree on both points. More about her conclusions later.

There is evidence that selfish interests limit good movies in tollywood. It is true of most Indian language movie industries.
an argument can be made on why certain irrigation projects were taken up earlier than others.

As I said earlier, agricultural land grab in telangana is an illogical argument based on barrowed ideas.
similar lazy analysis is also found in the claim that tdp was more harsh on extreme left movement. Any one who studied 60s and 70s across India and 70s in ap and ysr govt after 2004 can easily see that ruthless suppression of extreme left was a govt policy with varying degrees of effectiveness based govt efficiency.
real estate land grab in hyd is another false allegation. One it is not limited to any one group. Also the story is the same in all major metropolis.

Biggest nonsense is the media control statement. Every media industry is subjected to intense competetion and survived only as long as they have consumer support.

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