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Post by Guest Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:42 pm

The new charges against RSS chief Bhagwat implicating him in terror activities will mean that BJP will now find it extremely hard to get new allies to support them since the allies would not wish to lose the Muslim vote which in some states is very crucial. For instance Muslims are around 18% in UP and Bihar and around 30% in West Bengal. It also helps to turn the Hindu secular vote against the BJP.

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Post by smArtha Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:15 pm

Rashmun wrote:The new charges against RSS chief Bhagwat implicating him in terror activities will mean that BJP will now find it extremely hard to get new allies to support them since the allies would not wish to lose the Muslim vote which in some states is very crucial. For instance Muslims are around 18% in UP and Bihar and around 30% in West Bengal. It also helps to turn the Hindu secular vote against the BJP.

This will actually work against Cong as Polarization often helps BJP and SP/BSP/Muslim League /MIM parties.

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:17 pm

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The new charges against RSS chief Bhagwat implicating him in terror activities will mean that BJP will now find it extremely hard to get new allies to support them since the allies would not wish to lose the Muslim vote which in some states is very crucial. For instance Muslims are around 18% in UP and Bihar and around 30% in West Bengal. It also helps to turn the Hindu secular vote against the BJP.

This will actually work against Cong as Polarization often helps BJP and SP/BSP/Muslim League /MIM parties.

But in this case Cong can say that these are the same people who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

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Post by smArtha Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:50 pm

Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:This will actually work against Cong as Polarization often helps BJP and SP/BSP/Muslim League /MIM parties.

But in this case Cong can say that these are the same people who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

Does Cong really think that majority of voters today give a damn about who Mahatma Gandhi was and vote based on who were his enemies.

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:12 pm

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:This will actually work against Cong as Polarization often helps BJP and SP/BSP/Muslim League /MIM parties.

But in this case Cong can say that these are the same people who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

Does Cong really think that majority of voters today give a damn about who Mahatma Gandhi was and vote based on who were his enemies.

Are you saying most Hindus support Hindutva Terror? If Mohan Bhagwat is implicated in a plot to subvert national security I think most hindus would be ok to see him in jail since these people of the saffron brigade have a history of engaging in terror activities starting from the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:22 pm

Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:This will actually work against Cong as Polarization often helps BJP and SP/BSP/Muslim League /MIM parties.

But in this case Cong can say that these are the same people who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

Does Cong really think that majority of voters today give a damn about who Mahatma Gandhi was and vote based on who were his enemies.

Are you saying most Hindus support Hindutva Terror? If Mohan Bhagwat is implicated in a plot to subvert national security I think most hindus would be ok to see him in jail since these people of the saffron brigade have a history of engaging in terror activities starting from the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

Most Hindus in India are worried about their daily survival because they lack enough money / resources, which is mostly the result of bad management and poor governance. They don't care about who shot Mahatma Gandhi more than 60 yrs ago or what Bhagvat is planning to do in his spare time.
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:26 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:This will actually work against Cong as Polarization often helps BJP and SP/BSP/Muslim League /MIM parties.

But in this case Cong can say that these are the same people who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

Does Cong really think that majority of voters today give a damn about who Mahatma Gandhi was and vote based on who were his enemies.

Are you saying most Hindus support Hindutva Terror? If Mohan Bhagwat is implicated in a plot to subvert national security I think most hindus would be ok to see him in jail since these people of the saffron brigade have a history of engaging in terror activities starting from the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

Most Hindus in India are worried about their daily survival because they lack enough money / resources, which is mostly the result of bad management and poor governance. They don't care about who shot Mahatma Gandhi more than 60 yrs ago or what Bhagvat is planning to do in his spare time.

Most Hindus wish to lead peaceful lives. They do not want a vitiated communal atmosphere which would prevent them from leading communal lives.

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Post by smArtha Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:28 pm

Rashmun wrote:Are you saying most Hindus support Hindutva Terror? If Mohan Bhagwat is implicated in a plot to subvert national security I think most hindus would be ok to see him in jail since these people of the saffron brigade have a history of engaging in terror activities starting from the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

They may or may not but I had not made such a claim or disclaim anywhere. In an election year even truth gets masqueraded as conspiracy. Now what to speak of Governing party spins. I can guarantee that in the coming three to four months, the more Cong works to prove RSS or Modi or BJP communal the better it'll work for them in the West and North of India. BJP has not much to gain or loose in East or South. Also, only pre-poll aliiances will be upset by such revelations. And this time around both BJP and Cong are not getting many of those. If Cong gets closer to 180-200 it will form the Govt and if BJP manage 220-250 it'll do so. Any less they have to seek post poll alliances or support a front from outside.

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:12 pm

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Are you saying most Hindus support Hindutva Terror? If Mohan Bhagwat is implicated in a plot to subvert national security I think most hindus would be ok to see him in jail since these people of the saffron brigade have a history of engaging in terror activities starting from the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

They may or may not but I had not made such a claim or disclaim anywhere. In an election year even truth gets masqueraded as conspiracy. Now what to speak of Governing party spins. I can guarantee that in the coming three to four months, the more Cong works to prove RSS or Modi or BJP communal the better it'll work for them in the West and North of India. BJP has not much to gain or loose in East or South. Also, only pre-poll aliiances will be upset by such revelations. And this time around both BJP and Cong are not getting many of those. If Cong gets closer to 180-200 it will form the Govt and if BJP manage 220-250 it'll do so. Any less they have to seek post poll alliances or support a front from outside.

The charge against the RSS chief is not by Congress but by Caravan magazine which is a reputed Indian magazine well known for doing impartial investigative stories. Congress and Caravan are asking for a probe by an investigative agency into the matter. If the Sanghis are innocent they would have welcomed the suggestion of a probe since this issue involves National Security.

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Post by smArtha Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:16 pm

Rashmun wrote:The charge against the RSS chief is not by Congress but by Caravan magazine which is a reputed Indian magazine well known for doing impartial investigative stories. Congress and Caravan are asking for a probe by an investigative agency into the matter. If the Sanghis are innocent they would have welcomed the suggestion of a probe since this issue involves National Security.

The well known fact that the 'investigative agencies' work as stooges of the establishment, is the reason for Cong asking for an investigation and the Sanghis rejecting it. Even if I'm innocent, I'd not risk investigation by an agency or system that can be influenced by my opponents. If BJP comes to power they'll be more than willing to face such 'impartial investigation'

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:47 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

But in this case Cong can say that these are the same people who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

Does Cong really think that majority of voters today give a damn about who Mahatma Gandhi was and vote based on who were his enemies.

Are you saying most Hindus support Hindutva Terror? If Mohan Bhagwat is implicated in a plot to subvert national security I think most hindus would be ok to see him in jail since these people of the saffron brigade have a history of engaging in terror activities starting from the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

Most Hindus in India are worried about their daily survival because they lack enough money / resources, which is mostly the result of bad management and poor governance. They don't care about who shot Mahatma Gandhi more than 60 yrs ago or what Bhagvat is planning to do in his spare time.

Most Hindus wish to lead peaceful lives. They do not want a vitiated communal  atmosphere which would prevent them from leading communal lives.

Last two words in above should have been peaceful lives.

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