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Post by Propagandhi711 Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:52 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:Jagan and Kiran can't come together. They are opposite poles in their personality and bitter rivals too. YSR favored Kiran, much to the displeasure of Jagan.

Kiran is a very nice guy, personally and also as a politician. He is clean, not corrupt like other politicians. But, he is not popular or well liked because he is known 'not to help/favor anyone, even his own relatives and the ppl from his own constituency.'
Despite his strong and consistent stand on united AP, he won't have much political clout in SA. He lacks charisma.

CBN blew it up in SA with his weak stand on the state's division. But in spite of that, he may get support from kammas.

Jagan is going to be the eka chatradipathi of SA. sigh!

What does this say about SuCHers that they are oblivious to reality probably living in lala land, and perhaps naiver than AAP fans; consoling themselves by telling themselves (or is it murmuring?) incessantly our-culture-is-superior, our-culture-is-superior.

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Post by Idéfix Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:18 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
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Propagandhi711 wrote:Since we're making predictions, I think seemandhra will prosper over telangana and rayalaseema...culture is destiny over everything else in the long term
This my-culture-is-superior-to-yours attitude is precisely the reason for state split

comrade cd, some cultures are indeed superior. why the cultural traits that make some groups successful develop is due to a wide range of factors, with luck involved to a large degree. utopian comrades like to close their eyes and pretend everyone is the same...it's either eugenics or "we are all the same"
What are the characteristics of this cultural superiority? What are the variables you use to evaluate relative merits if different cultures? Is it possible to create bar charts from your data? 

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Post by Idéfix Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:20 pm

truthbetold wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:Since we're making predictions, I think seemandhra will prosper over telangana and rayalaseema...culture is destiny over everything else in the long term
This my-culture-is-superior-to-yours attitude is precisely the reason for state split
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not mean to be rude but are you lurking these days?
Nothing rude there. Just too many meetings. Most of these days I don't even get to bring my laptop out of the bag at work.
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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:15 pm

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confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:Jagan and Kiran can't come together. They are opposite poles in their personality and bitter rivals too. YSR favored Kiran, much to the displeasure of Jagan.

Kiran is a very nice guy, personally and also as a politician. He is clean, not corrupt like other politicians. But, he is not popular or well liked because he is known 'not to help/favor anyone, even his own relatives and the ppl from his own constituency.'
Despite his strong and consistent stand on united AP, he won't have much political clout in SA. He lacks charisma.

CBN blew it up in SA with his weak stand on the state's division. But in spite of that, he may get support from kammas.

Jagan is going to be the eka chatradipathi of SA. sigh!

What does this say about SuCHers that they are oblivious to reality probably living in lala land, and perhaps naiver than AAP fans; consoling themselves by telling themselves (or is it murmuring?) incessantly our-culture-is-superior, our-culture-is-superior.

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:18 pm

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smArtha wrote:
If my wishes are to be granted then -  CBN and YSJ should come together and have this open understanding that one represent at the center and other the state and then swap the roles the second term just as a gesture to ensure that the region's interest is secured a little ahead of their own political interests are.
In essence, you're asking them to commit political suicide Smile ee idea kuda bAgAnE undi rashtraniki pattina peeda  vadilipotundi

No political suicide here. JDU was with BJP for many years and broke up later for their own needs. Can't CBN and YSJ display such statesman-like quality at least in the time of need? It is a given that they'll both be the dominant players and they just can do this and shut out the Cong, BJP and Kiran. In fact, they should give a clarion call for boycotting of all elections run by central EC and set up a direct people elected twin party government with one leader leading the state and other leading the centre to represent the state. They can abide by this agreement for one decade and then each part their ways and contest independently. They'll reduce the burden of state and their own party political expenditure in this decade and also can shut out other (national) parties in this exercise. They should run the state like a territorially India but everything else autonomous to get it on the fastest track to development. They should demand such autonomy from the center and courts citing the loss of property, opportunities and fair share of all that the SA had contributed for 60 years to T and to TN prior to that. If they come together for even a decade they can dictate terms to the powers at the center. Sorry for the loose rant before signing off from work. May read little incoherent in actual execution but wanted to get the idea across.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140225/news-politics/article/congress-telugu-desam-party-unite-delay-andhra-pradesh-poll

"Significantly, the section of Congress leaders lobbying for delay has found an ally in Telugu Desam, which, according to party insiders, is averse to go to polls when the wounds of division are yet to be healed.
The common enemy for all these sections is YSRC chief Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy, whose sweeping of the polls in Seemandhra is being predicted by almost all poll surveys. Congress leaders who pledged loyalty to the outgoing Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy also favour a delay because they feel that some time would be available for the new party to make inroads and a dent in the YSRC by splitting the anti-TD vote in Seemandhra. “We did not anticipate that the people of Seemandhra would equally blame the BJP for the division. This will further consolidate YSRC’s position in Seemandhra if elections are held immediately,” pointed out a former minister and TD politburo member."

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Post by truthbetold Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:53 pm

"They should run the state like a territorially India but everything else autonomous to get it on the fastest track to development. They should demand such autonomy from the center and courts citing the loss of property, opportunities and fair share of all that the SA had contributed for 60 years to T and to TN prior to that."


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