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Post by truthbetold Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:51 am

Ten commandments
Koran
gita
vedas

is any one or more of these revealed?

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Post by smArtha Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:34 pm

truthbetold wrote:Ten commandments
Koran
gita
vedas

is any one or more of these revealed?

Are you asking if any others, other than the list above, are 'revealed' or questioning if any on the list above are indeed 'revealed'?

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Post by truthbetold Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:59 pm

I am asking if you( reader) believe that any one of these books is revealed by god?
or do you consider them to be written by some human being?


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Post by smArtha Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:46 pm

truthbetold wrote:I am asking if you( reader) believe that any one of these books is revealed by god?
or do you consider them to be written by some human being?


Why cannot it be both? Revealed by God and then written down by human? 
In any case, vEdAs are not revealed by God. They are 'apaurushEyam' which means no form i.e. even God in any form had created them. The tradition uses the metaphor of they are the breath of the Creator. The reason is if someone were to ask if your breath or your birth was first there is no answer to it. Birth and first breath(inhalation to be specific) are simultaneous and each cannot exist without the other. So is the relation between the Creator and vEdAs, there is no one without the other but none precedes the other too. 

Gita on the other hand is work of an Avatar of God and it has a near equal but not absolutely equal status to vEdAs. Both vEdAs and Gita were written down by vEda vyAsa and his disciples but they themselves had classified vEdAs in the Shruti category and Gita in the Smriti category.

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:51 pm

ghorapacharam, ghorapacharam. deeniki prayaschittamedi tirumalesa.

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Post by truthbetold Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:12 pm

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Why are you afraid to say what you believe in? what are you afraid of?

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