Hindi in Chennai

Rashmun wrote:Chennai... 

Everybody used to talk only in Tamil and Tamil alone. (naturally, for that's the language spoken in tamil nadu.)  

The salesman was from Rajasthan, speaking in wonderful tamil. (not surprisingly, for he's a salesman selling mostly to tamil-speaking people, and he lives in a tamil-speaking place.)

...the moment he came to know that I can speak to in Hindi, he was very happy to converse in Hindi with me. (naturally; he's a native hindi speaker, and he likes to converse in hindi.)

...all the sales people were from Bihar and starting conversing with me in Hindi. (naturally; see above.)

And at Ratna Cafe too, I met a few ppl who are from North India and working there as servers. My God, they were awesome pleased to hear me talk to them in Hindi. (naturally, see above.)

It is certain that those ppl from the Northern India have learnt tamil, to be a survivor in Chennai. (obviously, just as people from somalia and estonia learn english in order to lead productive lives in the u.s.)

Rashmun wrote:The city of Chennai brings to mind the tamil language fanatics, with whom I’ve grown up, studied together, worked and interacted with all through my life, in Chennai.

Everybody used to talk only in Tamil and Tamil alone.  Of course, there are various slangs, in different parts of the city.

In and around Mylapore, are the Saivaites, conversing in their specialistic Iyer dialect.

Around Triplicane, are the Vaishnavites, with their Iyengar styled dialogues.

The Royapuram side are known for their Hindi speaking crowd who are desperately trying to talk in Tamil. But it will be only Tamil.

The fisherman clan of this city have their own slang of tamil and the working class of people, another slang....

But, now, after I’ve comeback from the urdu-telugu speaking Hyderabad, I am in for a pleasant surprise.

I had been to the nearby electrical shop to buy some CFL for my home. The salesman was from Rajasthan, speaking in wonderful tamil. And the moment, he came to know that I can speak to Hindi, he was very happy to converse in Hindi with me.

Same situation at Adayar Anadha Bhavan – the wonderful place for snacks, tiffins and sorts.  But, surprise of surprises – all the sales people were from Bihar and starting conversing with me in Hindi. Actually I got super service, there.

The other day, I had been to a nearby branch of Ratna Cafe. This Ratna Cafe is one of the oldest hotels in Chennai, started first in Triplicane. I’ve heard stories of ppl buying Sambhar only in buckets to drink it – even though you think its an exaggeration, its the truth. Such is the taste of sambhar, here.

And at Ratna Cafe too, I met a few ppl who are from North India and working there at servers. My God, they were awesome pleased to hear me talk to them in Hindi.

It is certain that those ppl from the Northern India have learnt tamil, to be a survivor in Chennai.

But one thing hit me straight – Arre !!!! Chennai mein hindi chalta hai, yaar !!!!!

Thats a great step forward for the city of Chennai and it can be the advantageous side effects of the booming IT industry and a great moving crowd.

http://umaschennai.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/hindi-chalta-hai-yaar/

Obnoxious wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The city of Chennai brings to mind the tamil language fanatics, with whom I’ve grown up, studied together, worked and interacted with all through my life, in Chennai.

Everybody used to talk only in Tamil and Tamil alone.  Of course, there are various slangs, in different parts of the city.

In and around Mylapore, are the Saivaites, conversing in their specialistic Iyer dialect.

Around Triplicane, are the Vaishnavites, with their Iyengar styled dialogues.

The Royapuram side are known for their Hindi speaking crowd who are desperately trying to talk in Tamil. But it will be only Tamil.

The fisherman clan of this city have their own slang of tamil and the working class of people, another slang....

But, now, after I’ve comeback from the urdu-telugu speaking Hyderabad, I am in for a pleasant surprise.

I had been to the nearby electrical shop to buy some CFL for my home. The salesman was from Rajasthan, speaking in wonderful tamil. And the moment, he came to know that I can speak to Hindi, he was very happy to converse in Hindi with me.

Same situation at Adayar Anadha Bhavan – the wonderful place for snacks, tiffins and sorts.  But, surprise of surprises – all the sales people were from Bihar and starting conversing with me in Hindi. Actually I got super service, there.

The other day, I had been to a nearby branch of Ratna Cafe. This Ratna Cafe is one of the oldest hotels in Chennai, started first in Triplicane. I’ve heard stories of ppl buying Sambhar only in buckets to drink it – even though you think its an exaggeration, its the truth. Such is the taste of sambhar, here.

And at Ratna Cafe too, I met a few ppl who are from North India and working there at servers. My God, they were awesome pleased to hear me talk to them in Hindi.

It is certain that those ppl from the Northern India have learnt tamil, to be a survivor in Chennai.

But one thing hit me straight – Arre !!!! Chennai mein hindi chalta hai, yaar !!!!!

Thats a great step forward for the city of Chennai and it can be the advantageous side effects of the booming IT industry and a great moving crowd.

http://umaschennai.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/hindi-chalta-hai-yaar/

This is an article just for you.

http://www.hindu.com/op/2007/08/12/stories/2007081250021400.htm

Rashmun wrote:

Obnoxious wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The city of Chennai brings to mind the tamil language fanatics, with whom I’ve grown up, studied together, worked and interacted with all through my life, in Chennai.

Everybody used to talk only in Tamil and Tamil alone.  Of course, there are various slangs, in different parts of the city.

In and around Mylapore, are the Saivaites, conversing in their specialistic Iyer dialect.

Around Triplicane, are the Vaishnavites, with their Iyengar styled dialogues.

The Royapuram side are known for their Hindi speaking crowd who are desperately trying to talk in Tamil. But it will be only Tamil.

The fisherman clan of this city have their own slang of tamil and the working class of people, another slang....

But, now, after I’ve comeback from the urdu-telugu speaking Hyderabad, I am in for a pleasant surprise.

I had been to the nearby electrical shop to buy some CFL for my home. The salesman was from Rajasthan, speaking in wonderful tamil. And the moment, he came to know that I can speak to Hindi, he was very happy to converse in Hindi with me.

Same situation at Adayar Anadha Bhavan – the wonderful place for snacks, tiffins and sorts.  But, surprise of surprises – all the sales people were from Bihar and starting conversing with me in Hindi. Actually I got super service, there.

The other day, I had been to a nearby branch of Ratna Cafe. This Ratna Cafe is one of the oldest hotels in Chennai, started first in Triplicane. I’ve heard stories of ppl buying Sambhar only in buckets to drink it – even though you think its an exaggeration, its the truth. Such is the taste of sambhar, here.

And at Ratna Cafe too, I met a few ppl who are from North India and working there at servers. My God, they were awesome pleased to hear me talk to them in Hindi.

It is certain that those ppl from the Northern India have learnt tamil, to be a survivor in Chennai.

But one thing hit me straight – Arre !!!! Chennai mein hindi chalta hai, yaar !!!!!

Thats a great step forward for the city of Chennai and it can be the advantageous side effects of the booming IT industry and a great moving crowd.

http://umaschennai.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/hindi-chalta-hai-yaar/

This is an article just for you.

http://www.hindu.com/op/2007/08/12/stories/2007081250021400.htm

The writer of the article is an ignoramus. She is unfamiliar with the fact that the lingua franca of Hyderabad (which is where she says she is located) is Hyderabadi which is a special form of Dakhini which itself is a variant of Hindustani.

b_A wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Obnoxious wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The city of Chennai brings to mind the tamil language fanatics, with whom I’ve grown up, studied together, worked and interacted with all through my life, in Chennai.

Everybody used to talk only in Tamil and Tamil alone.  Of course, there are various slangs, in different parts of the city.

In and around Mylapore, are the Saivaites, conversing in their specialistic Iyer dialect.

Around Triplicane, are the Vaishnavites, with their Iyengar styled dialogues.

The Royapuram side are known for their Hindi speaking crowd who are desperately trying to talk in Tamil. But it will be only Tamil.

The fisherman clan of this city have their own slang of tamil and the working class of people, another slang....

But, now, after I’ve comeback from the urdu-telugu speaking Hyderabad, I am in for a pleasant surprise.

I had been to the nearby electrical shop to buy some CFL for my home. The salesman was from Rajasthan, speaking in wonderful tamil. And the moment, he came to know that I can speak to Hindi, he was very happy to converse in Hindi with me.

Same situation at Adayar Anadha Bhavan – the wonderful place for snacks, tiffins and sorts.  But, surprise of surprises – all the sales people were from Bihar and starting conversing with me in Hindi. Actually I got super service, there.

The other day, I had been to a nearby branch of Ratna Cafe. This Ratna Cafe is one of the oldest hotels in Chennai, started first in Triplicane. I’ve heard stories of ppl buying Sambhar only in buckets to drink it – even though you think its an exaggeration, its the truth. Such is the taste of sambhar, here.

And at Ratna Cafe too, I met a few ppl who are from North India and working there at servers. My God, they were awesome pleased to hear me talk to them in Hindi.

It is certain that those ppl from the Northern India have learnt tamil, to be a survivor in Chennai.

But one thing hit me straight – Arre !!!! Chennai mein hindi chalta hai, yaar !!!!!

Thats a great step forward for the city of Chennai and it can be the advantageous side effects of the booming IT industry and a great moving crowd.

http://umaschennai.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/hindi-chalta-hai-yaar/

This is an article just for you.

http://www.hindu.com/op/2007/08/12/stories/2007081250021400.htm

The writer of the article is an ignoramus. She is unfamiliar with the fact that the lingua franca of Hyderabad (which is where she says she is located) is Hyderabadi which is a special form of Dakhini which itself is a variant of Hindustani.

yes. A person who is from Hyderabad is an ignoramus and doesn't know what the lingua franca is , but an internet warrior who has never set his foot in Hyderabad knows all about that.

Rashmun wrote:

Obnoxious wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The city of Chennai brings to mind the tamil language fanatics, with whom I’ve grown up, studied together, worked and interacted with all through my life, in Chennai.

Everybody used to talk only in Tamil and Tamil alone.  Of course, there are various slangs, in different parts of the city.

In and around Mylapore, are the Saivaites, conversing in their specialistic Iyer dialect.

Around Triplicane, are the Vaishnavites, with their Iyengar styled dialogues.

The Royapuram side are known for their Hindi speaking crowd who are desperately trying to talk in Tamil. But it will be only Tamil.

The fisherman clan of this city have their own slang of tamil and the working class of people, another slang....

But, now, after I’ve comeback from the urdu-telugu speaking Hyderabad, I am in for a pleasant surprise.

I had been to the nearby electrical shop to buy some CFL for my home. The salesman was from Rajasthan, speaking in wonderful tamil. And the moment, he came to know that I can speak to Hindi, he was very happy to converse in Hindi with me.

Same situation at Adayar Anadha Bhavan – the wonderful place for snacks, tiffins and sorts.  But, surprise of surprises – all the sales people were from Bihar and starting conversing with me in Hindi. Actually I got super service, there.

The other day, I had been to a nearby branch of Ratna Cafe. This Ratna Cafe is one of the oldest hotels in Chennai, started first in Triplicane. I’ve heard stories of ppl buying Sambhar only in buckets to drink it – even though you think its an exaggeration, its the truth. Such is the taste of sambhar, here.

And at Ratna Cafe too, I met a few ppl who are from North India and working there at servers. My God, they were awesome pleased to hear me talk to them in Hindi.

It is certain that those ppl from the Northern India have learnt tamil, to be a survivor in Chennai.

But one thing hit me straight – Arre !!!! Chennai mein hindi chalta hai, yaar !!!!!

Thats a great step forward for the city of Chennai and it can be the advantageous side effects of the booming IT industry and a great moving crowd.

http://umaschennai.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/hindi-chalta-hai-yaar/

This is an article just for you.

http://www.hindu.com/op/2007/08/12/stories/2007081250021400.htm

The writer of the article is an ignoramus. She is unfamiliar with the fact that the lingua franca of Hyderabad (which is where she says she is located) is Hyderabadi which is a special form of Dakhini which itself is a variant of Hindustani. Anyone who speaks Hyderabadi can easily communicate with somebody who speaks Hindustani. People like this lady and people like Max would like to kill this Hyderabadi language because it is not a dravidian language. By this logic they should also voice their opposition to konkani because konkani is also not a dravidian language.

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Hyderabad has been the meeting place of many different cultures and traditions. It has over the years developed its own distinctive ‘Ganga-Jamuna’ culture. Hyderabad is a cosmopolitan city: people never identify themselves by their religion but only as Hyderabadis. Dussehra, Diwali or Sankranti are all meant to be enjoyed, whether one is Hindu or not. And Id brings celebrations not for a single community but for the entire city. Faith is a personal matter and what unites one is the sense of belonging to Hyderabad. (Old-timers say all this is a thing of the past, but I believe such pessimism is unwarranted).

Language is not a problem. The unique lingua franca, Dakhni, one of the most identifiable markers of Hyderabad, is a delicious blend of Hindi, Urdu and Telugu, with a lacing of old Marathi. The plural character of the city dates back to its founder, Quli Qutb Shah, who was also a Telugu scholar. Geographically too, it is inclusive: the twin cities, Hyderabad and Secunderabad, do not exhibit the cleavage in environment that divides, say, South Mumbai and the suburbs, or the Calcuttan whose life is confined south of Park Street. And now there is also Cyberabad, as the 400-year-old city constantly reinvents itself.

Hyderabad is not only cosmopolitan but also a pan-Indian city. Since the city was never ruled directly by the British (there was a Resident stationed there), it owes its plural character not so much to the British but to the Nizams, who encouraged Parsis, Kayasthas and Maharashtrians to join the civil service. What is important is that the inclusive nature of the city blended all these communities into a harmonious whole, distinguished by the adoption, in their own manner, of what is known as the ‘Hyderabadi tehzeeb’—the traditional composite of civility, hospitality, courtesy and grace in social interaction, the hallmark of which is respect and consideration. The outsider in Hyderabad (though I believe that the city does not treat anyone as such) does not jar. A posting in Hyderabad invariably ends with it being the city of choice post-retirement, or at least the acquisition of some property. Those who stay on mould their tastes and even language to the habitat. There is no need or wish to retain separateness—all willingly and happily submit to the warm embrace of the composite and cosmopolitan culture of a city, where visitors as far back as 400 years were in no hurry to leave once they had arrived.

http://www.outlookindia.com/article/Quo-Vadis-Hyderabad/263401

bw wrote:what is this uma thrilled about? that she ran into a lot of hindi speakers in chennai and they were happy to talk to her in hindi?   

Rashmun wrote:

bw wrote:what is this uma thrilled about? that she ran into a lot of hindi speakers in chennai and they were happy to talk to her in hindi?   

I suspect that she is happy about the fact that Chennai is becoming more cosmopolitan with the large scale influx of migrants from North India. Which leads me to a question: does anyone know the percentage of the North Indian population in Chennai?

Our Comment: Presumably the "country" he was referring to is the post-British India created in 1947. Never once in all history was there a single language that was spoken or understood in all these territories comprising India. At the time of this speech in 1949, very few people in the southern region of the country understood Hindi or Hindustani.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:obnoxious -- ms.atreya's anger is misdirected. the target of her ire should be not the northindians, but fellow telugus like TBT and kinnera who have encouraged this attitude by constantly making accommodations. the northindians in hyderabad are addicted to this servile behavior. why complain now?

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:obnoxious -- ms.atreya's anger is misdirected. the target of her ire should be not the northindians, but fellow telugus like TBT and kinnera who have encouraged this attitude by constantly making accommodations. the northindians in hyderabad are addicted to this servile behavior. why complain now?

eh? Where is this coming from? Show me one post where i supported hyderabadi muslims and non-telugus in hyd not learning telugu. I've always denounced that and there are many posts on sulekha and SuCh where i expressed the same. The last encounter was with the admin where he was in denial of that and argued that hydi muslims are indeed well versed in telugu. I had pulled out the telugu interviews of sania mirza and owaisi to prove him wrong. I've always maintained my position that wherever ppl choose to live, they need to learn the language of the majority.

Covering up one's language fanaticism, and the jealousy, insecurity and intolerance stemming out of it as 'pride in one's language' and wrongfully painting others who denounced it and exposed the intent as someone with 'servile behavior' further shows that you are on a losing ground. Deep inside, subconsciously, you know that you are wrong and that i am right.

Rashmun wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:obnoxious -- ms.atreya's anger is misdirected. the target of her ire should be not the northindians, but fellow telugus like TBT and kinnera who have encouraged this attitude by constantly making accommodations. the northindians in hyderabad are addicted to this servile behavior. why complain now?

eh? Where is this coming from? Show me one post where i supported hyderabadi muslims and non-telugus in hyd not learning telugu. I've always denounced that and there are many posts on sulekha and SuCh where i expressed the same. The last encounter was with the admin where he was in denial of that and argued that hydi muslims are indeed well versed in telugu. I had pulled out the telugu interviews of sania mirza and owaisi to prove him wrong. I've always maintained my position that wherever ppl choose to live, they need to learn the language of the majority.

Covering up one's language fanaticism, and the jealousy, insecurity and intolerance stemming out of it as 'pride in one's language' and wrongfully painting others who denounced it and exposed the intent as someone with 'servile behavior' further shows that you are on a losing ground. Deep inside, subconsciously, you know that you are wrong and that i am right.

Is the lingua franca of Hyderabad city Hyderabadi language or is it Telugu?

Obnoxious wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:obnoxious -- ms.atreya's anger is misdirected. the target of her ire should be not the northindians, but fellow telugus like TBT and kinnera who have encouraged this attitude by constantly making accommodations. the northindians in hyderabad are addicted to this servile behavior. why complain now?

eh? Where is this coming from? Show me one post where i supported hyderabadi muslims and non-telugus in hyd not learning telugu. I've always denounced that and there are many posts on sulekha and SuCh where i expressed the same. The last encounter was with the admin where he was in denial of that and argued that hydi muslims are indeed well versed in telugu. I had pulled out the telugu interviews of sania mirza and owaisi to prove him wrong. I've always maintained my position that wherever ppl choose to live, they need to learn the language of the majority.

Covering up one's language fanaticism, and the jealousy, insecurity and intolerance stemming out of it as 'pride in one's language' and wrongfully painting others who denounced it and exposed the intent as someone with 'servile behavior' further shows that you are on a losing ground. Deep inside, subconsciously, you know that you are wrong and that i am right.

Is the lingua franca of Hyderabad city Hyderabadi language or is it Telugu?

It is Telugu.

Rashmun wrote:This Bharata Mata has thirty crores of faces but her heart is one. She speaks eighteen languages yet her mind is one.

-Subramanya Bharati ( early 20th century Tamil poet)

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Rashmun wrote:This Bharata Mata has thirty crores of faces but her heart is one. She speaks eighteen languages yet her mind is one.

-Subramanya Bharati ( early 20th century Tamil poet)

These days Bharati is not the hero. DKheads are. They  are like BIMARU Bhasmasuras. They will want to put the hand on Bharati-ites but end up creating ashes out of themselves.

Rashmun wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Rashmun wrote:This Bharata Mata has thirty crores of faces but her heart is one. She speaks eighteen languages yet her mind is one.

-Subramanya Bharati ( early 20th century Tamil poet)

These days Bharati is not the hero. DKheads are. They  are like BIMARU Bhasmasuras. They will want to put the hand on Bharati-ites but end up creating ashes out of themselves.

Was there any nationalist and patriotic poet in AP in the 20th century?

Kayalvizhi wrote:No. Telugu is full of traitor poets.   Bing and see for yourself.

truthbetold wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Rashmun wrote:This Bharata Mata has thirty crores of faces but her heart is one. She speaks eighteen languages yet her mind is one.

-Subramanya Bharati ( early 20th century Tamil poet)

These days Bharati is not the hero. DKheads are. They  are like BIMARU Bhasmasuras. They will want to put the hand on Bharati-ites but end up creating ashes out of themselves.

Was there any nationalist and patriotic poet in AP in the 20th century?

Rash,

You should have asked " who are the N...."  .  

 Gurajada Appa Rao.