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Tamil Nadu: Chennai says it in Hindi
Chennai says it in Hindi
In a city once bitterly opposed to
the northerner’s tongue, Hindi is finding followers — private tutors
give lessons in apartment complexes, and young enthusiasts gingerly try
Kabir on their tongue. Even auto drivers will not snarl at you if you
speak in Hindi
Fourteen-year-old
Swati Ramanan has a new literary crush: Munshi Premchand. “The first
story by Premchand that I read and loved was Idgah. That must have been
six months ago,” she says in English, before self-consciously switching
to somewhat accented Hindi. “Main ab unki ek aur kahani padh rahi hun,
‘Bade Bhaisahab’ (I am now reading another story of his, called ‘Elder
Brother’),” she says shyly.
Swati lives on the
seventh floor of a tall apartment complex in Kodambakkam, Chennai. Like
any teenager, she likes Katy Perry, Harry Potter and skinny jeans. Of
late, she has been scarfing up Hindi books that her parents — both work
in the IT industry — buy her on their trips to Delhi and Mumbai. In her
room is a green felt board with a few Hindi dohas pinned on it alongside
cartoon cutouts. They flutter in the evening breeze as Swati talks
about her passion for a language far removed from her native tongue
Tamil. It all started with snatches of Hindi news overheard from her
neighbour’s radio. “It sounded so elegant,” says Swati, pausing to
rummage for the Hindi word for ‘elegant’. “I knew I had to learn to
speak and write like that.”
Swati attends a reputed CBSE school not
far from her home. Hindi is her third language of choice, after English
and her mother tongue, Tamil. “My friends opted for Sanskrit and French
because you can get better grades that way,” she says. But Swati’s
mother, Ananya, takes a broader view. “I have lived in Mumbai for two
years. Hindi is necessary if you want to move to other states. People
living in south India are increasingly aware of this,” says the
44-year-old, who watches Star Plus and Zee TV to help polish her Hindi.
“We enjoy watching Hindi stand-up comedy — there is no equivalent of
this on Tamil TV,” she says.
It has been a full decade since the
last anti-Hindi agitation in Chennai. The self-professed guardians of
Tamil culture haven’t vanished. Indeed, not too long ago, English
signboards on some railway routes were smudged off in an act of Tamil
pride, says a resident of Tambaram suburb. S Doraiswamy, a retired
executive who has lived in Thyagaraya Nagar, Chennai, for close to two
decades, says common English words are increasingly being translated
into forbidding Tamil — for instance, some bakeries call themselves
veduppagam (literally, a cooking room). “There are two sets of people in
Chennai today. Those who go out of their way to introduce new ways of
asserting the Tamil spirit; and the middle and upper middle classes who
want to learn Hindi and to make sure their children don’t miss the Hindi
bus,” says Doraiswamy.
With the Tamil Nadu
Uniform System of School Education Act integrating state and
matriculation boards, besides others, set to come into force, there is
worry that the Hindi bus may no longer make a stop in Tamil Nadu. Till
now, in schools following matriculation and other boards, Hindi had been
an optional third language. “Under the new system, students can choose
from Arabic, Urdu, Malayalam, Sanskrit, French and various Indian and
foreign languages as their third language, but not Hindi. A majority of
schools in Tamil Nadu will be forced to adopt this syllabus. To study
Hindi, you’d have to go to a CBSE school now or turn to options outside
the system,” says V Balakrishna, who runs Hindi Vidya Niketan, a centre
for Hindi learning, in T Nagar.
Balakrishna sits in a small makeshift
room on Dandapani Street. The signboard pointing up is in English and
Tamil. “According to state law, the regional language font size should
be bigger than the English font. And writing in Hindi is like inviting
trouble,” says Balakrishna, seated in front of a blackboard crammed with
Hindi verbs. A Hindi teacher in Chennai since 1988, Balakrishna coaches
adults and children —for a nominal fee of Rs 150 a month — in written
and spoken Hindi. He also prepares students for various certificate
courses offered by the Dakshina Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha, an
institution that dates back to the pre-Independence era. The Sabha now
has 18,000 certified pracharaks in Chennai alone, 6,000 of whom actively
teach. Says Balakrishna, a Sabha member, “There is no overt political
opposition to Hindi in Chennai anymore. Whatever indirect measures, such
as samacheer kalvi (uniform education) and the two-language curriculum,
are introduced, they are mere political stunts.”
Kevin and Manova Jacob, who are
studying for the Sabha’s Hindi Parichaya (introductory course) exam at
Balakrishna’s academy, agree. “It is important to know the national
language,” says Kevin. For the mathematics graduate, Hindi is a conduit
to north India, where he and his brother hope to find suitable jobs.
They can’t speak fluent Hindi yet but hope to be able to preach the
Bible in Hindi one day.
In February 2011,
about 50,000 people in Tamil Nadu — 13,000 from Chennai alone — appeared
for the Prathamik-level Sabha examinations, with over 95 per cent
passing. Two years ago, the number was 43,000. Inter-state mobility and
the trend of job-hopping are key reasons for the increase in interest in
Hindi, says Balakrishnan. “The IT industry is partly responsible for
this,” he says. Sreenivas, a 58-year-old student at Hindi Vidya Niketan,
says he realised the importance of Hindi over a decade ago but could
only find time to learn it closer to his retirement. “I have lived all
my life in Chennai because I don’t know any other language. But I made
sure my daughters studied for Hindi exams even though they couldn’t
study the language in their school, which followed the state board
curriculum,” he says.
There is a visible cultural dilation
on Chennai streets, once famously protective of all things Tamil. Five
years ago, Arumugam, a 55-year-old auto driver from Ambattur, would have
told you off if you asked him for directions in Hindi. Today, he parks
his auto on the bustling North Usman Road and calls out to people: Kahan
jaana hai? (Where do you want to go?) “It helps to know basic Hindi —
kitna (how much), kam (it’s not enough), dur (far), aa jao (come),” says
Arumugam.
Hindi has helped not
only autowallahs but also ministers clinch deals, says CNV Annamalai,
general secretary of the Sabha in Chennai, and member of a central
government advisory committee under the Ministry of Rural Development.
“I have always said, Mr Karunanidhi would have been PM long ago if only
he had known Hindi. His daughter does, though. She was a Sabha student,”
says Annamalai, in faultless Hindi. “There is a lot of demand for
Hindi in south India. In a year, six lakh people from the four southern
states appear for Sabha exams,” he says, adding, “Studying Hindi does
not mean ignoring Tamil.”
On Thanikachalam Road, R Krushnamurthy, a
Hindi bookseller, says the demand for exam guides is slowly rising, but
that of Hindi novels and reference books is not. “I started selling
books in 1990. In 1996-97, I was selling 10,000 copies of exam guides,
some of them self-published. Now the number has more than doubled,” he
says, adding, “There is a Hindi teacher in every apartment complex in
Chennai, seriously.” Balakrishnan laughs and nods. “Theruvellaam Hindi
muzhakkam (the cries of Hindi in every street),” he jokes.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chennai-says-it-in-hindi/830371/1
In a city once bitterly opposed to
the northerner’s tongue, Hindi is finding followers — private tutors
give lessons in apartment complexes, and young enthusiasts gingerly try
Kabir on their tongue. Even auto drivers will not snarl at you if you
speak in Hindi
Fourteen-year-old
Swati Ramanan has a new literary crush: Munshi Premchand. “The first
story by Premchand that I read and loved was Idgah. That must have been
six months ago,” she says in English, before self-consciously switching
to somewhat accented Hindi. “Main ab unki ek aur kahani padh rahi hun,
‘Bade Bhaisahab’ (I am now reading another story of his, called ‘Elder
Brother’),” she says shyly.
Swati lives on the
seventh floor of a tall apartment complex in Kodambakkam, Chennai. Like
any teenager, she likes Katy Perry, Harry Potter and skinny jeans. Of
late, she has been scarfing up Hindi books that her parents — both work
in the IT industry — buy her on their trips to Delhi and Mumbai. In her
room is a green felt board with a few Hindi dohas pinned on it alongside
cartoon cutouts. They flutter in the evening breeze as Swati talks
about her passion for a language far removed from her native tongue
Tamil. It all started with snatches of Hindi news overheard from her
neighbour’s radio. “It sounded so elegant,” says Swati, pausing to
rummage for the Hindi word for ‘elegant’. “I knew I had to learn to
speak and write like that.”
Swati attends a reputed CBSE school not
far from her home. Hindi is her third language of choice, after English
and her mother tongue, Tamil. “My friends opted for Sanskrit and French
because you can get better grades that way,” she says. But Swati’s
mother, Ananya, takes a broader view. “I have lived in Mumbai for two
years. Hindi is necessary if you want to move to other states. People
living in south India are increasingly aware of this,” says the
44-year-old, who watches Star Plus and Zee TV to help polish her Hindi.
“We enjoy watching Hindi stand-up comedy — there is no equivalent of
this on Tamil TV,” she says.
It has been a full decade since the
last anti-Hindi agitation in Chennai. The self-professed guardians of
Tamil culture haven’t vanished. Indeed, not too long ago, English
signboards on some railway routes were smudged off in an act of Tamil
pride, says a resident of Tambaram suburb. S Doraiswamy, a retired
executive who has lived in Thyagaraya Nagar, Chennai, for close to two
decades, says common English words are increasingly being translated
into forbidding Tamil — for instance, some bakeries call themselves
veduppagam (literally, a cooking room). “There are two sets of people in
Chennai today. Those who go out of their way to introduce new ways of
asserting the Tamil spirit; and the middle and upper middle classes who
want to learn Hindi and to make sure their children don’t miss the Hindi
bus,” says Doraiswamy.
With the Tamil Nadu
Uniform System of School Education Act integrating state and
matriculation boards, besides others, set to come into force, there is
worry that the Hindi bus may no longer make a stop in Tamil Nadu. Till
now, in schools following matriculation and other boards, Hindi had been
an optional third language. “Under the new system, students can choose
from Arabic, Urdu, Malayalam, Sanskrit, French and various Indian and
foreign languages as their third language, but not Hindi. A majority of
schools in Tamil Nadu will be forced to adopt this syllabus. To study
Hindi, you’d have to go to a CBSE school now or turn to options outside
the system,” says V Balakrishna, who runs Hindi Vidya Niketan, a centre
for Hindi learning, in T Nagar.
Balakrishna sits in a small makeshift
room on Dandapani Street. The signboard pointing up is in English and
Tamil. “According to state law, the regional language font size should
be bigger than the English font. And writing in Hindi is like inviting
trouble,” says Balakrishna, seated in front of a blackboard crammed with
Hindi verbs. A Hindi teacher in Chennai since 1988, Balakrishna coaches
adults and children —for a nominal fee of Rs 150 a month — in written
and spoken Hindi. He also prepares students for various certificate
courses offered by the Dakshina Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha, an
institution that dates back to the pre-Independence era. The Sabha now
has 18,000 certified pracharaks in Chennai alone, 6,000 of whom actively
teach. Says Balakrishna, a Sabha member, “There is no overt political
opposition to Hindi in Chennai anymore. Whatever indirect measures, such
as samacheer kalvi (uniform education) and the two-language curriculum,
are introduced, they are mere political stunts.”
Kevin and Manova Jacob, who are
studying for the Sabha’s Hindi Parichaya (introductory course) exam at
Balakrishna’s academy, agree. “It is important to know the national
language,” says Kevin. For the mathematics graduate, Hindi is a conduit
to north India, where he and his brother hope to find suitable jobs.
They can’t speak fluent Hindi yet but hope to be able to preach the
Bible in Hindi one day.
In February 2011,
about 50,000 people in Tamil Nadu — 13,000 from Chennai alone — appeared
for the Prathamik-level Sabha examinations, with over 95 per cent
passing. Two years ago, the number was 43,000. Inter-state mobility and
the trend of job-hopping are key reasons for the increase in interest in
Hindi, says Balakrishnan. “The IT industry is partly responsible for
this,” he says. Sreenivas, a 58-year-old student at Hindi Vidya Niketan,
says he realised the importance of Hindi over a decade ago but could
only find time to learn it closer to his retirement. “I have lived all
my life in Chennai because I don’t know any other language. But I made
sure my daughters studied for Hindi exams even though they couldn’t
study the language in their school, which followed the state board
curriculum,” he says.
There is a visible cultural dilation
on Chennai streets, once famously protective of all things Tamil. Five
years ago, Arumugam, a 55-year-old auto driver from Ambattur, would have
told you off if you asked him for directions in Hindi. Today, he parks
his auto on the bustling North Usman Road and calls out to people: Kahan
jaana hai? (Where do you want to go?) “It helps to know basic Hindi —
kitna (how much), kam (it’s not enough), dur (far), aa jao (come),” says
Arumugam.
Hindi has helped not
only autowallahs but also ministers clinch deals, says CNV Annamalai,
general secretary of the Sabha in Chennai, and member of a central
government advisory committee under the Ministry of Rural Development.
“I have always said, Mr Karunanidhi would have been PM long ago if only
he had known Hindi. His daughter does, though. She was a Sabha student,”
says Annamalai, in faultless Hindi. “There is a lot of demand for
Hindi in south India. In a year, six lakh people from the four southern
states appear for Sabha exams,” he says, adding, “Studying Hindi does
not mean ignoring Tamil.”
On Thanikachalam Road, R Krushnamurthy, a
Hindi bookseller, says the demand for exam guides is slowly rising, but
that of Hindi novels and reference books is not. “I started selling
books in 1990. In 1996-97, I was selling 10,000 copies of exam guides,
some of them self-published. Now the number has more than doubled,” he
says, adding, “There is a Hindi teacher in every apartment complex in
Chennai, seriously.” Balakrishnan laughs and nods. “Theruvellaam Hindi
muzhakkam (the cries of Hindi in every street),” he jokes.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chennai-says-it-in-hindi/830371/1
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Re: Tamil Nadu: Chennai says it in Hindi
Max, please share your thoughts about the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu. is this a good thing?
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why only max? why not the other no-link-language tigers?
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Huzefa Kapasi wrote:why only max? why not the other no-link-language tigers?
--> i enjoy conversing with max on this issue the most. also, i have been having intermittent conversations with max on this issue for some years now.
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Rashmun wrote:Chennai says it in Hindi
In a city once bitterly opposed to
the northerner’s tongue, Hindi is finding followers — private tutors
give lessons in apartment complexes, and young enthusiasts gingerly try
Kabir on their tongue. Even auto drivers will not snarl at you if you
speak in Hindi
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chennai-says-it-in-hindi/830371/1
Please let me:
You just proved that (most) Naarthies are hindi chauvanists and backward minded. How?
By your own count, Southies are learning hindies. I agree....they are leanring hindi. But what have the Naarthies learnt ?
Tamil? English? Kannada? Malayalam? Gujarati? Bengali ?
So proved beyond any doubt that the Hindians - read UPites -are the most chauvanistic, backward minded, incapable, inefficient citizens of India living on the efforts of the West/East/Southern Indians who learn new things with open mind and bring progress to India.
Why don't you UPites separate from India and let it progress? How about joining Pakistan?
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Rashmun wrote:Chennai says it in Hindi
In a city once bitterly opposed to
the northerner’s tongue, Hindi is finding followers — private tutors
give lessons in apartment complexes, and young enthusiasts gingerly try
Kabir on their tongue. Even auto drivers will not snarl at you if you
speak in Hindi
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chennai-says-it-in-hindi/830371/1
Please let me:
You just proved that (most) Naarthies are hindi chauvanists and backward minded. How?
By your own count, Southies are learning hindies. I agree....they are leanring hindi. But what have the Naarthies learnt ?
Tamil? English? Kannada? Malayalam? Gujarati? Bengali ?
So proved beyond any doubt that the Hindians - read UPites -are the most chauvanistic, backward minded, incapable, inefficient citizens of India living on the efforts of the West/East/Southern Indians who learn new things with open mind and bring progress to India.
Why don't you UPites separate from India and let it progress? How about joining Pakistan?
--> Hindustani emerged as a link language across urban India over a period of a few centuries. The fact that tamilians have started learning hindi again (in large numbers) shows that one cannot do away with a utilitarian link language just because of what some zealots and bigots think.
--> Modern Hindustani emerged from the Dakhini language. In other words, Dakhini is the ancestral language of Hindustani. There was a time when Braja was the most common language in the area of what is now U.P.. Hindustani came along and displaced Braja as the language of the urban regions of not only present day U.P. but present day North India.
--> Now, Dakhini is/was a South Indian language. In other words, UPites adopted a language (Hindustani) which had originated in South India.
--> This shows that UPites were not zealots and bigots with respect to the language issue.
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Is this what a majority of UPites believe about their own language? Or is this something that you believe based on a few internet links?Rashmun wrote:In other words, UPites adopted a language (Hindustani) which had originated in South India.
This shows that UPites were not zealots and bigots with respect to the language issue.
Like Sevaji kept himself busy redefining Hindu beliefs, you are keeping yourself busy redefining Hindi beliefs. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
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charvaka wrote:Is this what a majority of UPites believe about their own language? Or is this something that you believe based on a few internet links?Rashmun wrote:In other words, UPites adopted a language (Hindustani) which had originated in South India.
This shows that UPites were not zealots and bigots with respect to the language issue.
Like Sevaji kept himself busy redefining Hindu beliefs, you are keeping yourself busy redefining Hindi beliefs. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
--> We all have our own viewpoints. But is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
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No.Rashmun wrote:But is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
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charvaka wrote:Is this what a majority of UPites believe about their own language? Or is this something that you believe based on a few internet links?Rashmun wrote:In other words, UPites adopted a language (Hindustani) which had originated in South India.
This shows that UPites were not zealots and bigots with respect to the language issue.
Like Sevaji kept himself busy redefining Hindu beliefs, you are keeping yourself busy redefining Hindi beliefs. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
--> A twentieth-century Kerala Hindi scholar, Dr. Muhammad Kunj Mettar,
established Dakhni as source for modern Hindi. Dr. Suniti Kumar
Chattopadhyay also maintained that it was Deccan that established the
use of Khari Boli replacing Braj in the North. In fact, even the name
Hindi for the language originated in the South. A Tamilian, Kazi Mahamud
Bahari in 17th century used the word Hindi for Dakhni in his Sufi poetry
called Man Lagan.
http://www.bangalorenotes.com/dakhni.htm
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Indeed! That Quli Qutb Shah's tomb is in Vijaywada (sic) is also a "viewpoint."Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints.
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charvaka wrote:Indeed! That Quli Qutb Shah's tomb is in Vijaywada (sic) is also a "viewpoint."Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints.
--> i have already acknowledged my mistake and i explained how i made it. Now get back to the topic: the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu.
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The increasing popularity of Hindi in Tamil Nadu, as established using the same Method by which you established the location of MQQS's tomb...Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Indeed! That Quli Qutb Shah's tomb is in Vijaywada (sic) is also a "viewpoint."Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints.
--> i have already acknowledged my mistake and i explained how i made it. Now get back to the topic: the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu.
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charvaka wrote:The increasing popularity of Hindi in Tamil Nadu, as established using the same Method by which you established the location of MQQS's tomb...Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Indeed! That Quli Qutb Shah's tomb is in Vijaywada (sic) is also a "viewpoint."Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints.
--> i have already acknowledged my mistake and i explained how i made it. Now get back to the topic: the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu.
--> Charvaka, who can stop you from behaving like a complete idiot? Go on, keep on making a fool of yourself.
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Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Indeed! That Quli Qutb Shah's tomb is in Vijaywada (sic) is also a "viewpoint."Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints.
--> i have already acknowledged my mistake and i explained how i made it. Now get back to the topic: the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu.
Hahaha...so ?? Di you, LW, or Merlot ever stop when someone explained or proved or apologized for anything. You guys will ignore and keep at it all the time trying to "convert" it into a fact.
Smae thing applies to you and you better accept it.
Everything you say and do is riddled with mistakes, made up facts, citing wrong and absurd net articles, with absolutely no original thinking from you.
That is why, only Maulana Merlot supports you, and even he has stopped praising you the for the last month or so.
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Indeed! That Quli Qutb Shah's tomb is in Vijaywada (sic) is also a "viewpoint."Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints.
--> i have already acknowledged my mistake and i explained how i made it. Now get back to the topic: the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu.
Hahaha...so ?? Di you, LW, or Merlot ever stop when someone explained or proved or apologized for anything. You guys will ignore and keep at it all the time trying to "convert" it into a fact.
Smae thing applies to you and you better accept it.
Everything you say and do is riddled with mistakes, made up facts, citing wrong and absurd net articles, with absolutely no original thinking from you.
That is why, only Maulana Merlot supports you, and even he has stopped praising you the for the last month or so.
--> is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
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Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Is this what a majority of UPites believe about their own language? Or is this something that you believe based on a few internet links?Rashmun wrote:In other words, UPites adopted a language (Hindustani) which had originated in South India.
This shows that UPites were not zealots and bigots with respect to the language issue.
Like Sevaji kept himself busy redefining Hindu beliefs, you are keeping yourself busy redefining Hindi beliefs. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
--> We all have our own viewpoints. But is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
You did ? Really? When was that? and what was that ?
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. It can be more correctly stated as "random internet articles all have their own viewpoints."Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints. But is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
You did ? Really? When was that? and what was that ?
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Is this what a majority of UPites believe about their own language? Or is this something that you believe based on a few internet links?Rashmun wrote:In other words, UPites adopted a language (Hindustani) which had originated in South India.
This shows that UPites were not zealots and bigots with respect to the language issue.
Like Sevaji kept himself busy redefining Hindu beliefs, you are keeping yourself busy redefining Hindi beliefs. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
--> We all have our own viewpoints. But is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
You did ? Really? When was that? and what was that ?
--> Looks like reading this article about the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu made Charvako and you suffer not only intense heartburn but also temporary insanity. My condolences. Here:
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charvaka wrote:. It can be more correctly stated as "random internet articles all have their own viewpoints."Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Rashmun wrote:We all have our own viewpoints. But is the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu causing you intense heartburn?
You did ? Really? When was that? and what was that ?
--> Your guruvu garu Sandilya had bestowed the unique title of 'Google King' on you and not on me.
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Rashmun wrote:Max, please share your thoughts about the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu. is this a good thing?
if it serves some purpose or gives pleasure to the people learning it, it's a good thing.
how many times do i have to repeat myself that i have never been against people exercising
their free will to do something?
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Rashmun wrote:Max, please share your thoughts about the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu. is this a good thing?
if it serves some purpose or gives pleasure to the people learning it, it's a good thing.
how many times do i have to repeat that i have never been against people exercising
their free will to do something?
In your profession, what do you call such people who don't understand even after repeating a 100 times ?
Just asking...
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There is an Einstein quote on doing the same thing over and over.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
In your profession, what do you call such people who don't understand even after repeating a 100 times ?
Just asking...
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There has always been a segment of people in Chennai who studied hindi through various sources.
I don't think there is any "increased" occurrence of this unless you count the increased number of inane movie songs/TV shows that ape bollywood. We have our own cheesy style and I really don't know why we need to import bollywood tosh.
Auto guys looking for more business may learn a word or two to attract (rip off) passengers but that is not an indication of the "popularity" of hindi.
I don't think there is any "increased" occurrence of this unless you count the increased number of inane movie songs/TV shows that ape bollywood. We have our own cheesy style and I really don't know why we need to import bollywood tosh.
Auto guys looking for more business may learn a word or two to attract (rip off) passengers but that is not an indication of the "popularity" of hindi.
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
In your profession, what do you call such people who don't understand even after repeating a 100 times ?
Just asking...
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
In your profession, what do you call such people who don't understand even after repeating a 100 times ?
Just asking...
differently abled.
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In terms of hindi students, the hindi prachar sabha has been around for a long time and is ironically within walking distance of Dandapani St, where the gentleman cited in the article holds his classes. There was also a hindi class taught by a private teacher in one of the side streets from Dandapani St, which a bunch of girls used to go to thru our street. This was when I was in 10th grade, I think.
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Rashmun wrote:Max, please share your thoughts about the increasing popularity of hindi in Tamil Nadu. is this a good thing?
if it serves some purpose or gives pleasure to the people learning it, it's a good thing.
how many times do i have to repeat myself that i have never been against people exercising
their free will to do something?
--> so you agree that hindi's popularity is increasing in TN?
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charvaka wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
In your profession, what do you call such people who don't understand even after repeating a 100 times ?
Just asking...
differently abled.
--> except for these LOL's, there is not a single constructive comment in this entire thread by you. it's sad to see the brain of an intelligent person undergoing exponential decay.
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Kris wrote:In terms of hindi students, the hindi prachar sabha has been around for a long time and is ironically within walking distance of Dandapani St, where the gentleman cited in the article holds his classes. There was also a hindi class taught by a private teacher in one of the side streets from Dandapani St, which a bunch of girls used to go to thru our street. This was when I was in 10th grade, I think.
oh god not the prachar sabha again! haven't we discussed the sabha and its pracharing ways to death in prior threads?
if the sabha was a private company and we were measuring its productivity to justify its reason to exist,
it would be long dead by now.
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Don't know. Haven't really kept up on this.
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Rashmun wrote:
--> so you agree that hindi's popularity is increasing in TN?
in the absence of credible surveys, as i've already said there is no
way for me to judge, anecdotal evidence of the kind you constantly
present notwithstanding.
secondly, i don't give a crap.
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Rashmun wrote:
--> so you agree that hindi's popularity is increasing in TN?
in the absence of credible surveys, as i've already said there is no
way for me to judge, anecdotal evidence of the kind you constantly
present notwithstanding.
secondly, i don't give a crap.
--> if you don't give a crap why did you once say that tamilians who prefer hindi over tamil are 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'.
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Thank you for the compliment; I sincerely wish I could return it. I find this thread very amusing; don't let that unhinge you (and start fantasizing about kicking me in my balls and such.)Rashmun wrote:except for these LOL's, there is not a single constructive comment in this entire thread by you. it's sad to see the brain of an intelligent person undergoing exponential decay.
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Satya Upadhyaji's fantasies involve a Kukri and Loreena Bobbit.charvaka wrote:Thank you for the compliment; I sincerely wish I could return it. I find this thread very amusing; don't let that unhinge you (and start fantasizing about kicking me in my balls and such.)Rashmun wrote:except for these LOL's, there is not a single constructive comment in this entire thread by you. it's sad to see the brain of an intelligent person undergoing exponential decay.
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charvaka wrote:Thank you for the compliment; I sincerely wish I could return it. I find this thread very amusing; don't let that unhinge you (and start fantasizing about kicking me in my balls and such.)Rashmun wrote:except for these LOL's, there is not a single constructive comment in this entire thread by you. it's sad to see the brain of an intelligent person undergoing exponential decay.
--> you have already paid me the compliment earlier when you claimed that your knowledge of indian philosophy was 'miniscule' compared to mine. you have also complimented me on several of my CH posts.
--> with reference to kicking you on your balls, i am only assuring you that i am not going to do so. i find your LOL's in the middle of even a serious discussion signs of your own mind becoming unhinged.
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Rashmun wrote:
--> if you don't give a crap why did you once say that tamilians who prefer hindi over tamil are 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'.
i don't quite recall the context in which i might have said that,
but i don't think i would have said it specifically about folks who
prefer hindi over tamil.
the greater possibility is that i said that about tamil brahmins who
had developed an aversion to tamil because of the unsavory activities
of the dravida kazhagams. i.e. the many adherents of the original DK
movement were also tamil enthusiasts. the brahmins disliked the
kazhagamists intensely and so by transference, developed a hatred
for tamil. that would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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Hellsangel wrote:Satya Upadhyaji's fantasies involve a Kukri and Loreena Bobbit.charvaka wrote:Thank you for the compliment; I sincerely wish I could return it. I find this thread very amusing; don't let that unhinge you (and start fantasizing about kicking me in my balls and such.)Rashmun wrote:except for these LOL's, there is not a single constructive comment in this entire thread by you. it's sad to see the brain of an intelligent person undergoing exponential decay.
--> When Charvaka farts, the fragrance is that of a lovely perfume according to Hellsangel.
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Dear Satya Upadhyaji, what are you trying to say here?Rashmun wrote:
--> When Charvaka farts, the fragrance is that of a lovely perfume according to Hellsangel.
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Hellsangel wrote:Dear Satya Upadhyaji, what are you trying to say here?Rashmun wrote:
--> When Charvaka farts, the fragrance is that of a lovely perfume according to Hellsangel.
--> i am saying that when Charvaka farts, the odor is that of fragrant perfume as far as you are concerned.
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Rashmun, I am curious on one point. Do you speak Hindi? Your stalker has noted a few times that you don't speak Hindi, and you have responded to him but did not use any Hindi.
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Dear Satya Upadhyaji, there are many things that C and I don't agree about but we both enjoy having a good beer laughing about you.
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Hellsangel wrote:Dear Satya Upadhyaji, there are many things that C and I don't agree about but we both enjoy having a good beer laughing about you.
--> what are the other things you do with him besides having a good beer and gossiping about me?
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Haha. Now you are going to make him imagine we are all conspiring against him. This will only get funnier!Hellsangel wrote:Dear Satya Upadhyaji, there are many things that C and I don't agree about but we both enjoy having a good beer laughing about you.
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charvaka wrote:Haha. Now you are going to make him imagine we are all conspiring against him. This will only get funnier!Hellsangel wrote:Dear Satya Upadhyaji, there are many things that C and I don't agree about but we both enjoy having a good beer laughing about you.
--> did shashank mohan ever confess his love for you?
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Curiouser and curiouser!Ram Sharan wrote:Rashmun, I am curious on one point. Do you speak Hindi? Your stalker has noted a few times that you don't speak Hindi, and you have responded to him but did not use any Hindi.
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Who is Shashank Mohan now?Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Haha. Now you are going to make him imagine we are all conspiring against him. This will only get funnier!Hellsangel wrote:Dear Satya Upadhyaji, there are many things that C and I don't agree about but we both enjoy having a good beer laughing about you.
--> did shashank mohan ever confess his love for you?
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charvaka wrote:Who is Shashank Mohan now?Rashmun wrote:charvaka wrote:Haha. Now you are going to make him imagine we are all conspiring against him. This will only get funnier!Hellsangel wrote:Dear Satya Upadhyaji, there are many things that C and I don't agree about but we both enjoy having a good beer laughing about you.
--> did shashank mohan ever confess his love for you?
--> i suppose you don't know manjula either?
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