Indian Islam vs Saudi Islam---Ramzan or Ramadan , Khuda Hafiz or Allah Hafiz ??

by ashdoc Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:17 am

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/you-say-ramadan-i-say-ramzan/99/

http://twocircles.net/2011jun07/allah_hafiz_vs_khuda_hafiz.html#.U-cct-OSxOI

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:33 am

Ramadan and Allah hafiz are real muslims.

Ramzan and khudahafiz are second class muslims...

but neither group can marry the real muslims - the Saudis.

by ashdoc Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:08 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Ramadan and Allah hafiz are real muslims.

Ramzan and khudahafiz are second class muslims...

but neither group can marry the real muslims - the Saudis.

you really are the resident expert on islam here Smile

and i mean it seriously .

by Hellsangel Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:52 am

Ramazan and khuda hafiz(also Persian) are Turkish.

Ramadan is Arabic. Allah Hafiz is new.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/17/pakistan-goodbye-allah-hafiz

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:04 am

Hellsangel wrote:Ramazan and khuda hafiz are Turkish.

Ramadan is Arabic. Allah Hafiz is new.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/17/pakistan-goodbye-allah-hafiz

Islam being a foreign religion everything the Muslim Indians do OBVIOUSLY will be from foreign culture.

tell me - when they paifully avoid ANYTHING related to hindu culture (Indian culture is hindu culture) and try to ape the Saudis how do you expect a muslim Indian to have anything Indian ?

You need to give it to the Christians in that they try to copy local hindu culture - albeit with the intention to brainwash them into conversion. Syrian Catholic Brahmin Christians and marthoma Church are good example. That is why I am all for installing jesus statue in Hindu temples with bhindi, garland and archanai and everything. After all Indian temples have Sai Baba and Mahaveer statues (mahaveer is not mentioned in any mantras used by any sects, while Budhs is involked by many sects).

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:22 am

this woman seems to be making some wild leaps here:

But it’s not history the “Indian Islam” followers are worried about, it’s the current “Arab-Saudi-Wahabi” influence that has them worked up. Sure, the Arab world is in turmoil, with crises in Iraq, Syria and Palestine nearing no end. Sure, there is the ISIS, al-Qaeda, and Hamas, all Arab gun-toting militants who, by the way, kill hapless Arab civilians. But there is also the peaceful United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman — countries that host more foreigners than their own nationals, and have temples and churches along with mosques. Does not that speak of Arab tolerance? As for Saudi Arabia, it is intolerant of all faiths except Sunni Islam, but the kingdom hosts people of several nationalities. There are more Indian expatriates in that country than elsewhere, and many of them are not Muslim.

really? these countries have churches and temples (by which i take it to mean hindu temples)? and her glib suggestion that migrants to these countries are somehow a sign of the great tolerance they have for other faiths is laughable. they have a need to hire people that nobody in their countries will do willingly for the wages they are willing to pay. that's pretty much it.

by confuzzled dude Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:27 am

Hellsangel wrote:Ramazan and khuda hafiz(also Persian) are Turkish.

Ramadan is Arabic. Allah Hafiz is new.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/17/pakistan-goodbye-allah-hafiz

Makes sense, they say majority of Hyderabadi muslims are turkish descendants.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:32 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:this woman seems to be making some wild leaps here:
But it’s not history the “Indian Islam” followers are worried about, it’s the current “Arab-Saudi-Wahabi” influence that has them worked up. Sure, the Arab world is in turmoil, with crises in Iraq, Syria and Palestine nearing no end. Sure, there is the ISIS, al-Qaeda, and Hamas, all Arab gun-toting militants who, by the way, kill hapless Arab civilians. But there is also the peaceful United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman — countries that host more foreigners than their own nationals, and have temples and churches along with mosques. Does not that speak of Arab tolerance? As for Saudi Arabia, it is intolerant of all faiths except Sunni Islam, but the kingdom hosts people of several nationalities. There are more Indian expatriates in that country than elsewhere, and many of them are not Muslim.

really? these countries have churches and temples (by which i take it to mean hindu temples)? and her glib suggestion that migrants to these countries are somehow a sign of the great tolerance they have for other faiths is laughable. they have a need to hire people that nobody in their countries will do willingly for the wages they are willing to pay. that's pretty much it.

Freedom, tolerance, and secularism are all relative. Chinese claim their citizens have total freedom, and the iSlamis claim their religion treats men and women equally and give Kombolete freedom to all religions (No Mullah has ever explained this FACT)

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