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Post by Guest Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:44 pm

Rutgers is in 71-80 range.. ghar ki murgi daal barabar for my madam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11464059/Top-100-world-universities-by-reputation-in-full.html

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:09 pm

42 of the world's top 100 universities are in US. The country with the best Univs in the world. Yay! There's not one from India. Sigh!

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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:18 pm

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Rutgers is in 71-80 range.. ghar ki murgi daal barabar for my madam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11464059/Top-100-world-universities-by-reputation-in-full.html
Of course, she wants to be away from the family and be independent; American individualism you know Smile

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:07 pm

Sikular politicians are responsible for not having a single Indian University in the list.

Communist China decided to stick to the merit system and Chinese universities have started to join the ranks.

If meat-heads like Pappu and Sonia and corrupt DKheads decide policy, what you get is this: garbage in and garbage out.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:06 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Rutgers is in 71-80 range.. ghar ki murgi daal barabar for my madam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11464059/Top-100-world-universities-by-reputation-in-full.html
Of course, she wants to be away from the family and be independent; American individualism you know Smile

ghanta independent...

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:51 pm

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Rutgers is in 71-80 range.. ghar ki murgi daal barabar for my madam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11464059/Top-100-world-universities-by-reputation-in-full.html

One has to take it with a pinch of salt.....The criteria considered by each poll Times100, USNews or QS will change ranking DRASTICALLY.

For example: Where is University of Michigan - Ann Arbor in the Times 100 ? (or did I miss it?)

I rest my case...

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:59 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Sikular politicians are responsible for not having a single Indian University in the list.

Communist China decided to stick to the merit system and Chinese universities have started to join the ranks.

If meat-heads like Pappu and Sonia and corrupt DKheads decide policy, what you get is this: garbage in and garbage out.  
It's also a good commercial to attract overseas students. 

Moreover, as I was told by someone familiar with the school rankings system, it's very similar to the Olympic committee assigning the Olympic games after visiting various bidding cities / countries --- very much depends on how well the Olympic Committee delegates are received and treated by the bidding / host city (country). Don't also forget that Qattar is going to host the World Cup in soccer in the near future!

Needless to say, the ranking / rating on the list is enhanced if the reviewing committee delegates are "nicely" treated during their visit to the school / univ. by the  host (school / univ. administrators). The rating usually would be lower if the school / univ. does not care about the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (probably the reason in this case that many American Universities / schools are not high on this list), or if the Univ/ school doesn't have much time & money to spend on the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (as usually is the case of low ranking for Indian schools, IITs etc.)
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Post by swapna Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:34 pm

#1, check; #6, check; #8, check; #10, check; #11, check.

sorry, GowNDer and KishTiangirl.

I'm surprised by the high rank, #13, of ucla, based on reputation.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:45 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Rutgers is in 71-80 range.. ghar ki murgi daal barabar for my madam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11464059/Top-100-world-universities-by-reputation-in-full.html

One has to take it with a pinch of salt.....The criteria considered by each poll Times100, USNews or QS will change ranking DRASTICALLY.

For example:  Where is University of Michigan - Ann Arbor in the Times 100 ?  (or did I miss it?)

I rest my case...

yes you did.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:47 pm

swapna wrote:#1, check; #6, check; #8, check; #10, check; #11, check.

sorry, GowNDer and KishTiangirl.

I'm surprised by the high rank, #13, of ucla, based on reputation.

i am also surprised at the low rankings of brown, university of minnesota, and georgia tech.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:53 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Sikular politicians are responsible for not having a single Indian University in the list.

Communist China decided to stick to the merit system and Chinese universities have started to join the ranks.

If meat-heads like Pappu and Sonia and corrupt DKheads decide policy, what you get is this: garbage in and garbage out.  
It's also a good commercial to attract overseas students. 

Moreover, as I was told by someone familiar with the school rankings system, it's very similar to the Olympic committee assigning the Olympic games after visiting various bidding cities / countries --- very much depends on how well the Olympic Committee delegates are received and treated by the bidding / host city (country). Don't also forget that Qattar is going to host the World Cup in soccer in the near future!

Needless to say, the ranking / rating on the list is enhanced if the reviewing committee delegates are "nicely" treated during their visit to the school / univ. by the  host (school / univ. administrators). The rating usually would be lower if the school / univ. does not care about the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (probably the reason in this case that many American Universities / schools are not high on this list), or if the Univ/ school doesn't have much time & money to spend on the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (as usually is the case of low ranking for Indian schools, IITs etc.)

the only indian school i expected to find, but did not is the IISc. the IITs aren't going to make this list. the probability was always low, and now with how things have unfolded in the last ten or so years, even lower.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:02 pm

one more thing. this is a reputation based ranking. last year they published a list based on measured criteria -- research output, citations etc. i wonder why they've moved on to a reputation based list.
here is that list. they also discuss their methodology.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking
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Post by swapna Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:06 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
swapna wrote:#1, check; #6, check; #8, check; #10, check; #11, check.

sorry, GowNDer and KishTiangirl.

I'm surprised by the high rank, #13, of ucla, based on reputation.

i am also surprised at the low rankings of brown, university of minnesota, and georgia tech.

this ranking was by worldwide reputation. georgia tech, I don't think, has a worldwide reputation, and it has neither the reputation, nor the science and/mathematics and/or economics departments that m.I.t. and caltech do.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:09 pm

swapna wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
swapna wrote:#1, check; #6, check; #8, check; #10, check; #11, check.

sorry, GowNDer and KishTiangirl.

I'm surprised by the high rank, #13, of ucla, based on reputation.

i am also surprised at the low rankings of brown, university of minnesota, and georgia tech.

this ranking was by worldwide reputation. georgia tech, I don't think, has a worldwide reputation, and it has neither the reputation, nor the science and/mathematics and/or economics departments that m.I.t. and caltech do.

the surprise wasn't that georgia tech wasn't ranked higher than MIT or caltech but other schools ranked above it, e.g. NYU, UCSF, or U of Toronto.
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:13 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:one more thing. this is a reputation based ranking. last year they published a list based on measured criteria -- research output, citations etc.  i wonder why they've moved on to a reputation based list.
here is that list. they also discuss their methodology.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking


IISC and panjab uni made it in 276-300.

IIT B and IIT Roorkee in 351-400

(yay)

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Post by confuzzled dude Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:43 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Sikular politicians are responsible for not having a single Indian University in the list.

Communist China decided to stick to the merit system and Chinese universities have started to join the ranks.

If meat-heads like Pappu and Sonia and corrupt DKheads decide policy, what you get is this: garbage in and garbage out.  
If only they had incorporated hindu science skills from ancient times such as plastic surgery,  interplanetary spacecraft technology into the curriculum..

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:00 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Sikular politicians are responsible for not having a single Indian University in the list.

Communist China decided to stick to the merit system and Chinese universities have started to join the ranks.

If meat-heads like Pappu and Sonia and corrupt DKheads decide policy, what you get is this: garbage in and garbage out.  
It's also a good commercial to attract overseas students. 

Moreover, as I was told by someone familiar with the school rankings system, it's very similar to the Olympic committee assigning the Olympic games after visiting various bidding cities / countries --- very much depends on how well the Olympic Committee delegates are received and treated by the bidding / host city (country). Don't also forget that Qattar is going to host the World Cup in soccer in the near future!

Needless to say, the ranking / rating on the list is enhanced if the reviewing committee delegates are "nicely" treated during their visit to the school / univ. by the  host (school / univ. administrators). The rating usually would be lower if the school / univ. does not care about the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (probably the reason in this case that many American Universities / schools are not high on this list), or if the Univ/ school doesn't have much time & money to spend on the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (as usually is the case of low ranking for Indian schools, IITs etc.)

the only indian school i expected to find, but did not is the IISc. the IITs aren't going to make this list. the probability was always low, and now with how things have unfolded in the last ten or so years, even lower.
These ratings systems, the way they are generated (similar to the sports committees picking up the top city to host Olympic games or the World Cup soccer, etc.), are highly questionable. Don't put too much weight on them.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:25 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Sikular politicians are responsible for not having a single Indian University in the list.

Communist China decided to stick to the merit system and Chinese universities have started to join the ranks.

If meat-heads like Pappu and Sonia and corrupt DKheads decide policy, what you get is this: garbage in and garbage out.  
It's also a good commercial to attract overseas students. 

Moreover, as I was told by someone familiar with the school rankings system, it's very similar to the Olympic committee assigning the Olympic games after visiting various bidding cities / countries --- very much depends on how well the Olympic Committee delegates are received and treated by the bidding / host city (country). Don't also forget that Qattar is going to host the World Cup in soccer in the near future!

Needless to say, the ranking / rating on the list is enhanced if the reviewing committee delegates are "nicely" treated during their visit to the school / univ. by the  host (school / univ. administrators). The rating usually would be lower if the school / univ. does not care about the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (probably the reason in this case that many American Universities / schools are not high on this list), or if the Univ/ school doesn't have much time & money to spend on the reviewing committee delegates when they visit (as usually is the case of low ranking for Indian schools, IITs etc.)

the only indian school i expected to find, but did not is the IISc. the IITs aren't going to make this list. the probability was always low, and now with how things have unfolded in the last ten or so years, even lower.
These ratings systems, the way they are generated (similar to the sports committees picking up the top city to host Olympic games or the World Cup soccer, etc.), are highly questionable. Don't put too much weight on them.

list by reputation....all this proves is the anglosaxon supremacy at marketing and creative polling

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:01 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
swapna wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
swapna wrote:#1, check; #6, check; #8, check; #10, check; #11, check.

sorry, GowNDer and KishTiangirl.

I'm surprised by the high rank, #13, of ucla, based on reputation.

i am also surprised at the low rankings of brown, university of minnesota, and georgia tech.

this ranking was by worldwide reputation. georgia tech, I don't think, has a worldwide reputation, and it has neither the reputation, nor the science and/mathematics and/or economics departments that m.I.t. and caltech do.

the surprise wasn't that georgia tech wasn't ranked higher than MIT or caltech but other schools ranked above it, e.g. NYU, UCSF, or U of Toronto.

The NYU is always exaggerated. GT is #11 if you consider engineering - next to Berkeley. I did not look at the criteria.... But, in much of the world - as also in the US - the past reputation plays a major role. There was a year when US News ranked Grad Biomedical engineering at MIT as #4... except there was no Biomedical major or department at MIT. A lot depends on the who and where it is surveyed. Going by Flimmy's econ/sciences/reputation U of Chicago should rank very high.... but it is ranked way down.

One will be surprised that many many (even in educated circles) think that Purdue, "Ann Arbor" and Berkeley, Oxford, Cambridge, Kings College are private and Chicago, Penn are state schools (and hence not as good). That is one reason Mass Inst of tech and Calif Inst of Tech changed into MIT and CalTech. Poor GT cannot overcome its Georgia Tech - the State name.

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Post by TruthSeeker Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:37 pm

All I know is that to the best of University students in US, if you were to ask a simple formula in calculus in an economics class in MBA, over 70% would not know anything of it.

Who knows what criteria they choose to decide the top 100.

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