Owaisi - A rising star?

Owaisi, 46, is being hailed as a “superstar of the Muslim community,” a “truth-speaking angry young man” and “a ray of hope” among India’s Muslims. Muslims make up 14 percent of India’s 1.2 billion population but have historically had little political influence.

“I have never seen such a fearless leader before,” said Syed Jawad, a 22-year-old dairy shop owner who watched Owaisi here in this western city about 200 miles from Mumbai. “Owaisi is the new messiah for us.”

“This is our country as much as it is yours. We are not renters, we are also owners of this land. We should get our rights,” Owaisi said.

Hellsangel wrote:I was waiting to see how long before you posted this article, Tovarisch.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:I was waiting to see how long before you posted this article, Tovarisch.

Thank me for putting an end to your wait.

confuzzled dude wrote:

“This is our country as much as it is yours. We are not renters, we are also owners of this land. We should get our rights,” Owaisi said.

-> He is 100% right and no one can deny them their right; one can only hope spineless chaddies and wannabe goat eaters come to grips with this sooner than later.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/why-a-rising-star-of-muslim-politics-in-india-stirs-hope-and-fear/2015/08/16/1a81275c-3d21-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_story.html

truthbetold wrote:Cd,

Next step is to enlist rashmun to rewrite razakar history.
Owaisi's rise among Muslims is similar to the rise of isis in Middle East. It speaks about the cultural poverty of secular politics in India. A sensible person would not glorify the rise of a rank  communalist even if it is from an article of ignorant shallow western reporter.

truthbetold wrote:Cd,

Next step is to enlist rashmun to rewrite razakar history.
Owaisi's rise among Muslims is similar to the rise of isis in Middle East. It speaks about the cultural poverty of secular politics in India. A sensible person would not glorify the rise of a rank  communalist even if it is from an article of ignorant shallow western reporter.

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Cd,

Next step is to enlist rashmun to rewrite razakar history.
Owaisi's rise among Muslims is similar to the rise of isis in Middle East. It speaks about the cultural poverty of secular politics in India. A sensible person would not glorify the rise of a rank  communalist even if it is from an article of ignorant shallow western reporter.

How is he any different from those Shivsena/BJP MPs? I am not sure what you meant by glorifying?

Kinnera wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Cd,

Next step is to enlist rashmun to rewrite razakar history.
Owaisi's rise among Muslims is similar to the rise of isis in Middle East. It speaks about the cultural poverty of secular politics in India. A sensible person would not glorify the rise of a rank  communalist even if it is from an article of ignorant shallow western reporter.

How is he any different from those Shivsena/BJP MPs? I am not sure what you meant by glorifying?

Excellent! This is the point i've been trying to make over the years on these forums. The Owaisis haven't come out of the blue. They have been the influencial communal muslim leaders over the past few decades. The grandpa Owaisi was involved in the Rajakar movement, started/reorganized the out and out communal party, MIM. As its leader, daddy Owaisi (Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi) served in the assembly and parliament for several decades. i doubt if he has ever lost an election coz all the hyd muslims would vote for him en masse. Of course, hyderabadis from that era know that he orchestrated several communal riots for his political gains. Now the sons have takes over.

The thing is, MIM is anything but a very communal party and hydi muslims vote enmasse for it while its leaders and the muslims, while supporting MIM and its communal leaders, talk about secularism and talk against the 'communal' BJP (which came into existance much later than MIM, btw. so don't talk as if MIM was borne out of hindu nationalism). And muslims like you also get all out of shape talking about BJP 24/7, but won't utter a word against MIM. See the hypocrisy of it all.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Cd,

Next step is to enlist rashmun to rewrite razakar history.
Owaisi's rise among Muslims is similar to the rise of isis in Middle East. It speaks about the cultural poverty of secular politics in India. A sensible person would not glorify the rise of a rank  communalist even if it is from an article of ignorant shallow western reporter.

How is he any different from those Shivsena/BJP MPs? I am not sure what you meant by glorifying?

Excellent! This is the point i've been trying to make over the years on these forums. The Owaisis haven't come out of the blue. They have been the influencial communal muslim leaders over the past few decades. The grandpa Owaisi was involved in the Rajakar movement, started/reorganized the out and out communal party, MIM. As its leader, daddy Owaisi (Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi) served in the assembly and parliament for several decades. i doubt if he has ever lost an election coz all the hyd muslims would vote for him en masse. Of course, hyderabadis from that era know that he orchestrated several communal riots for his political gains. Now the sons have takes over.

The thing is, MIM is anything but a very communal party and hydi muslims vote enmasse for it while its leaders and the muslims, while supporting MIM and its communal leaders, talk about secularism and talk against the 'communal' BJP (which came into existance much later than MIM, btw. so don't talk as if MIM was borne out of hindu nationalism). And muslims like you also get all out of shape talking about BJP 24/7, but won't utter a word against MIM. See the hypocrisy of it all.

What are you trying to say? The overwhelming majority of blacks voted for Obama, Jeb Bush is counting on Hispanic votes; Indo-American candidates heavily rely on Indian American votes.

Kinnera wrote:
I think we are talking about supporting/overlooking the blatantly communal party of one's own religion while talking about secularism and getting stressed about and being obsessed day in and day out over the one belonging to the other religion.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kinnera wrote:
I think we are talking about supporting/overlooking the blatantly communal party of one's own religion while talking about secularism and getting stressed about and being obsessed day in and day out over the one belonging to the other religion.

Please be kind to our resident patriots. You don't want to shatter those dainty, fragile souls, with logical arguments, do you?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Cd,

Next step is to enlist rashmun to rewrite razakar history.
Owaisi's rise among Muslims is similar to the rise of isis in Middle East. It speaks about the cultural poverty of secular politics in India. A sensible person would not glorify the rise of a rank  communalist even if it is from an article of ignorant shallow western reporter.

How is he any different from those Shivsena/BJP MPs? I am not sure what you meant by glorifying?

Excellent! This is the point i've been trying to make over the years on these forums. The Owaisis haven't come out of the blue. They have been the influencial communal muslim leaders over the past few decades. The grandpa Owaisi was involved in the Rajakar movement, started/reorganized the out and out communal party, MIM. As its leader, daddy Owaisi (Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi) served in the assembly and parliament for several decades. i doubt if he has ever lost an election coz all the hyd muslims would vote for him en masse. Of course, hyderabadis from that era know that he orchestrated several communal riots for his political gains. Now the sons have takes over.

The thing is, MIM is anything but a very communal party and hydi muslims vote enmasse for it while its leaders and the muslims, while supporting MIM and its communal leaders, talk about secularism and talk against the 'communal' BJP (which came into existance much later than MIM, btw. so don't talk as if MIM was borne out of hindu nationalism). And muslims like you also get all out of shape talking about BJP 24/7, but won't utter a word against MIM. See the hypocrisy of it all.

What are you trying to say? The overwhelming majority of blacks voted for Obama, Jeb Bush is counting on Hispanic votes; Indo-American candidates heavily rely on Indian American votes.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Huhhh....trying your diversionary tactic...that means you accept Kinny's points.  Gracius

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Huhhh....trying your diversionary tactic...that means you accept Kinny's points.  Gracius

Diversionary tactic, really? I bet you don't have an answer.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Huhhh....trying your diversionary tactic...that means you accept Kinny's points.  Gracius

Diversionary tactic, really? I bet you don't have an answer.

More blacks voted for Clinton than for Obama. So?

Owaisi’s move has already begun polarising the Hindus well ahead of the elections. A clear hint of this was seen during the NDA rally addressed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Saharsa on August 18, held barely two days after Owaisi’s visit to Kishanganj. Media reports have said the crowd at the Saharsa rally was more than the other rallies addressed by the PM in Muzaffarpur, Gaya and Ara towns. It was significant to note that the the crowd registered its massive presence despite heavy rains in Saharsa. “This was clearly the Owaisi effect. By thronging the venue in huge numbers, the Hindus wanted to display their solidarity for Modi,” commented a local journalist who had covered the Saharsa rally.

Past records also show Owaisi’s presence in the electoral arena has hugely benefitted the BJP. The BJP-led alliance gained majority in Maharashtra assembly polls after Owaisi jumped into the poll arena although his party could win only two seats. The BJP lost badly in Delhi elections as Owaisi decided against contesting the elections. Now that he had planned to contest the Bihar elections, it has only brightened the BJP’s poll prospects as it evident from saffron camp’s mysterious silence over the issue. Unconfirmed reports say Owaisi allegedly has a tacit understanding with the BJP. It is said he meets BJP chief Amit Shah whenever the former is in Delhi though there is no official confirmation about it.

Hellsangel wrote:Yes, Tovarisch. Owaisi is a chaddi stooge. He must be persona non grata to you now.

Hellsangel wrote:Yes, Tovarisch. Owaisi is a chaddi stooge. He must be persona non grata to you now.