Employment and other statistics from the Obama presidency

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:29 am

This will be the standard the new administration will be compared against.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:33 am

Stock market returns for those of us who have remained steadfastly in the market during the O presidency has been 235% or 16.4% annualized.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:36 am

US dependence on foreign oil due to a combination of more natural gas reserves being found at home and due to increased market penetration of renewables:

Employment and other statistics from the Obama presidency Us_dependence_on_foreign_oil_0

Employment and other statistics from the Obama presidency Us_dependence_on_foreign_oil_0

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:38 am

Total uninsured as of Q1 in 2016: 8.6%

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:40 am

And that much maligned labor force participation rate which wasn't particularly high during the dubya years either is now also beginning to tick upwards. The declines have been due to structural changes in the population -- retirements, more people staying in college, women deciding to stay home etc. In any case this was something that used drive the cons batty. It is improving in latest surveys as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-november-2016-2016-12

by Hellsangel Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:42 am

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:42 am

And for those who point to the rise in debt -- You can stuff it because you talk as if 2008 and the financial crisis never happened.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:42 am

This thread was started to come back periodically and check how thing are, going forward.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:45 am

Total guns taken away from perpetually scared right wingers over the last eight years -- zero.

by southindian Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:20 am

People have already started to miss President Obama Smile

Pussy-Grabber must be getting ready for Golden Showers and 'ride'

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:36 am

There's an oft repeated canard that white men lost out during the Obama presidency. Wrong again:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=cr5N

by silvermani Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:49 am

Lies, damn lies, statistics.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:53 am

silvermani wrote:Lies, damn lies, statistics.

These are statistics compiled by various government agencies. Conservatives never said the data were made up or were outright lies when things were looking bleak and the Obama administration was getting slammed left right and center for rising unemployment and other metrics. So why are they suddenly complaining about the veracity of the data? The data are collected from a multitude of sources. So if you are alleging that they are lies, then you must believe that there is a systematic collusion across the entire government bureaucracy involving hundreds of agencies and possibly thousands of government workers who were convinced by politicians to foist a gigantic fraud on the public.

Can you tell us why you think these are lies and why you are maligning the integrity of hardworking people (I am talking about regular rank and file government employees, not politicians)?

by silvermani Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:07 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
silvermani wrote:Lies, damn lies, statistics.

These are statistics compiled by various government agencies. Conservatives never said the data were made up or were outright lies when things were looking bleak and the Obama administration was getting slammed left right and center for rising unemployment and other metrics. So why are they suddenly complaining about the veracity of the data? The data are collected from a multitude of sources. So if you are alleging that they are lies, then you must believe that there is a systematic collusion across the entire government bureaucracy involving hundreds of agencies and possibly thousands of government workers who were convinced by politicians to foist a gigantic fraud on the public.

Can you tell us why you think these are lies and why you are maligning the integrity of hardworking people (I am talking about regular rank and file government employees, not politicians)?

Yeah, everything is just great! Which is why the people have voted in Trump.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:09 pm

silvermani wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
silvermani wrote:Lies, damn lies, statistics.

These are statistics compiled by various government agencies. Conservatives never said the data were made up or were outright lies when things were looking bleak and the Obama administration was getting slammed left right and center for rising unemployment and other metrics. So why are they suddenly complaining about the veracity of the data? The data are collected from a multitude of sources. So if you are alleging that they are lies, then you must believe that there is a systematic collusion across the entire government bureaucracy involving hundreds of agencies and possibly thousands of government workers who were convinced by politicians to foist a gigantic fraud on the public.

Can you tell us why you think these are lies and why you are maligning the integrity of hardworking people (I am talking about regular rank and file government employees, not politicians)?
Yeah, everything is just great! Which is why the people have voted in Trump.

That's not an answer to the questions I asked.

by confuzzled dude Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:58 pm

Labor force participation rate:

The labor force participation rate has declined since Obama took office. Part of that is due to demographic shifts; as baby boomers retire, that will drag the rate downward, as those people will no longer be working or looking for jobs. The same goes for many adults who are in school. However, some of this downward movement is because of a bad economy; as of 2014, the CBO attributed half the decline at that time to demographics and half to economic problems. (The labor force participation rate measures the share of the population 16 and over that is working or looking for a job. | Sources: 1, 2)

65.7% (Jan. 2009)

62.7% (Dec. 2016)

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510491692/the-america-donald-trump-is-inheriting-by-the-numbers

-> Fox news's favorite stat.

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