On ABCDs who go to the Caribean for MD

...one of the docs sent his kid to the Caribbean...of course adding that his kid could have easily got admission to any US school the next year, but did not want to waste one year.....

almost 95 or 98% of the med students in the Caribbean universities (some 55 of them) are ABCDs. Lately, these schools are selling to the Indians also claiming they would get US training - and US jobs/visas.

P.S. This belongs to the "information you can use" category.

Why did the kid meekly follow hid dad's orders?

upps ,

what he said is probably true .. he did not want to waste a year

.these schools are not half bad expensive yes .

and one does get to do a residency at one of their chosen US schools

Indian parents by hook or by crook will send their kids in for medicine so any medical school will be full of Indian kids .a foregone conclusion

i didnt say that indian kids would choose caribbean schools over US schools bu if there is a year wasted then yes

they aren't half bad... students dont complain

the caribbean schools have connections with certain US residency hospitals second tier schools maybe but thats what i meant

thank u for agreeing with me on one point .

Saamiyaar,

How is that quite a few desis from Indian medical schools end up as Cardiologists and Neuro Surgeons here in the United States? I thought these are highly sought out specialties. Would'nt the American hospitals prefer kids who went to medical schools in the United States?

MulaiAzhagi wrote:Saamiyaar,

How is that quite a few desis from Indian medical schools end up as Cardiologists and Neuro Surgeons here in the United States? I thought these are highly sought out specialties. Would'nt the American hospitals prefer kids who went to medical schools in the United States?

While the cardiologists think they are Gods (some are humble to accept they are only God's Assistants). They are actually better ones from the lowest group. There is no cardiology residency - repeat NO. Those entering Internal medicine - almost like family Practice - apply for a 2 year fellowship in cardiology. Those internists who do well end up with the fellowship (Super residents). Now who goes into Internal medicine? Those who cannot get into their choice residency. Those specifically pick Internal medicine do so with the aim of going for cardiology. The rest are dumpees.

Now for the Neuro surgeon - it is a different matter. It is a high risk job involving long hours in operating theatres. Also, 5 years (then followed by 1 or 2 yrs of fellowship subspecialty). Americans dont prefer that as the money they make after 7+ years is not too attractive. Neurology is difficult to get in - as it is only 3+1 year, and all americans fight for it. Surprisingly the difficult to get residencies are Dermatology (yeah...those pimple poppers), Radiology (blue film watchers), Neurology, etc... as these have limited on-call duties (relation to others).

Also, the left-over specialties change every 3 to 5 years. These days Internal, Family medicine, and Psychiatry are filled with Phoreners, and the low rankers. Ironically, some really top notch people do pick Psychiatry bcz of its close connection to neuroscience.

Indian medical schools are on par with US schools and much superior to Caribbean schools

so there is never a problem of accepting students from India in US residencies .

It is a well proved fact that the generl american patient loves his Indian doctor

why ? because he is personable,humble spends a lot of time with the patient and has excellent bedside manners

chameli wrote:Indian medical schools are on par with US schools and much superior to Caribbean schools

so there is never a problem of accepting students from India in US residencies .

It is a well proved fact that the generl american patient loves his Indian doctor

why ? because he is personable,humble spends a lot of time with the patient and has excellent bedside manners

Are you QB ? You speak like someone who owns a home with a garden and dont know what to do with a $10 mil land in Hyderabad.

chameli wrote:Indian medical schools are on par with US schools and much superior to Caribbean schools

so there is never a problem of accepting students from India in US residencies .

It is a well proved fact that the generl american patient loves his Indian doctor

why ? because he is personable,humble spends a lot of time with the patient and has excellent bedside manners

....here...how residencies are allotted...and why 50% of foreign medical graduates don't get into residencies......

upps,

i can only dream of being QB and owning property in Hyderabad .

mabye get cosy with the Nizam's progeny

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:...one of the docs sent his kid to the Caribbean...of course adding that his kid could have easily got admission to any US school the next year, but did not want to waste one year.....

almost 95 or 98% of the med students in the Caribbean universities (some 55 of them) are ABCDs. Lately, these schools are selling to the Indians also claiming they would get US training - and US jobs/visas.

P.S. This belongs to the "information you can use" category.

The last week, I have been immersed in and looking into medical school residency matching. y'day results came out for the upcoming 2012 residency slots. And here is more about this year. Note the comments about Internal Medicine.
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The federal government may be interested in increasing the supply of primary care physicians, but the proportion of residency slots set aside for those specialties is roughly the same as last year, according to data from the National Resident Matching Program.

That's despite the fact that both the number of positions and the number of applicants were up from last year, program officials said.

In total, 38,377 applicants -- from U.S. and international allopathic and osteopathic medical schools -- were vying for 26,772 positions.

More than 80% of U.S. medical school seniors matched to one of their top three choices, and 56% got into their top pick.

Dermatology, orthopedic surgery, otolaryngology, plastic surgery, radiation oncology, thoracic surgery, and vascular surgery were the most competitive fields, according to the National Resident Matching Program.

Family medicine residencies accounted for 11.4% of positions in 2012, down slightly from 11.6% in 2011, and pediatrics positions were down to 10.3% of all slots from 10.6% last year, according to data from the matching agency.

Internal medicine positions accounted for only a hair more positions this year, up to 22% compared with 21.9% last year.

Even though internal medicine accounted for the largest proportion of matches, many of the students who fill internal medicine slots straight out of medical school will eventually wind up in a subspecialty -- cardiology or rheumatology, for instance.

"From a national point of view, we hope there's an increased interest in primary care, and there does seem to be," Robert Johnson, MD, dean of students at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey's medical school in Newark, said. "However, it has not been the groundswell we need for the country."

"Many of us are questioning what's going to happen in 2014 and beyond when we do have 30 million more people coming into the healthcare system," he added.

At UMDNJ, 19% of this year's class of 170 students chose internal medicine. The second most popular choice was anesthesiology (9%), followed by pediatrics (7%), emergency medicine (7%), and general surgery (7%).

About a third of this year's class overall went into a primary care residency, Johnson said.

Nationwide, more than 95% of medical school seniors matched to a residency program -- the highest rate in 30 years, according to the National Resident Matching Program.

The couples match program also saw an all-time high, matching 804 of 878 couples to their respective residency program preferences.
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Oh, BTW, I notice (in my analysis) that Scalia rule plays an important role. Those from well known private schools progress onto elite residency programs. The International medical Graduates (only 50% of whom get residencies) game starts AFTER the US graduate round is over, and the IMGs fight for non-University and local hospitals.