Genghis Khan

Rashmun wrote:

panini press wrote:

Rashmun wrote:you are mistaken. i abhor hitler as much as you do. But i find it hypocritical to laud Alexander as a great military strategist and tactician and simultaneously to call Genghis Khan a barbarian.

Has someone been lauding Alexander on SuCH?

i don't recall anyone lauding Alexander on this forum.

Thanks for acknowledging that your latest crush was self-inflicted, not a reaction to anyone actually doing what you find hypocritical. EOD.

panini press wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

panini press wrote:

Rashmun wrote:you are mistaken. i abhor hitler as much as you do. But i find it hypocritical to laud Alexander as a great military strategist and tactician and simultaneously to call Genghis Khan a barbarian.

Has someone been lauding Alexander on SuCH?

i don't recall anyone lauding Alexander on this forum.

Thanks for acknowledging that your latest crush was self-inflicted, not a reaction to anyone actually doing what you find hypocritical. EOD.

Nice try at evading how you had no problem with someone lauding Alexander (as a military strategist) on Sulekha CH while jumping up and down when someone praises Genghis Khan for the same reason.

Rashmun wrote:

panini press wrote:

Rashmun wrote:you are mistaken. i abhor hitler as much as you do. But i find it hypocritical to laud Alexander as a great military strategist and tactician and simultaneously to call Genghis Khan a barbarian.

Has someone been lauding Alexander on SuCH? How did I miss it? Why did you suddenly embark upon the laudature of Genghis Khan?

PS: I tend to agree with Srisri on these matters. Most kings in history were tyrants. Glorifying them is a sign of servility.

PPS: Also, this abhorrence of Hitler is a result of colonial hangover -- the British demonized Hitler and you are following their lead. There are more links on the internet that the Holocaust did not happen, than that Genghis Khan was a patron of the arts. Therefore, could it be possible that that the Holocaust did not happen?

i don't recall anyone lauding Alexander on this forum. But the poster Krishnan had very definitely lauded Alexander on sulekha CH (for being a great military strategist and tactician) and while i do not recall whether you joined him in praising Alexander, you certainly did not go around whining about the fact that Alexander ended up killing so many people.

With respect to hitler only recently you were claiming that if second world war would not have taken place hitler would have been remembered as a great ruler. when i pointed out that hitler had started ethnic cleansing of jews before the second world war even began you preferred not to respond to my statement.

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many sincere thanks to chinggis unkil for his "Go Green!" initiative. chinggis unkil was a visionary and anticipated the problems of today hundreds of years ago.

Genghis Khan has been branded the greenest invader in history - after his murderous conquests killed so many people that huge swathes of cultivated land returned to forest.

The Mongol leader, who established a vast empire between the 13th and 14th centuries, helped remove nearly 700million tons of carbon from the atmosphere, claims a new study.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1350272/Genghis-Khan-killed-people-forests-grew-carbon-levels-dropped.html

Another Brick wrote:many sincere thanks to chinggis unkil for his "Go Green!" initiative. chinggis unkil was a visionary and anticipated the problems of today hundreds of years ago.

Genghis Khan has been branded the greenest invader in history - after his murderous conquests killed so many people that huge swathes of cultivated land returned to forest.

The Mongol leader, who established a vast empire between the 13th and 14th centuries, helped remove nearly 700million tons of carbon from the atmosphere, claims a new study.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1350272/Genghis-Khan-killed-people-forests-grew-carbon-levels-dropped.html

from the comments section to the article whose link you gave:

This is the worst and most ignorant research I've seen. Please read Jack Weatherford's "The Making of the Modern World" to know the historical facts first.
- Portnoy, Taiwan&Mongolia, 26/1/2011 11:49

Rashmun is evolving..

He started with a mild (in comparison to Genghis Khan) despot Nizam of Hyderabad who only put his subjects through poverty and starvation and has moved onto Genghis Khan who raped, pillaged and murdered in the millions. Which route will this evolution take now?? Pol Pot.. Mao.. Hitler.
It is anybody's guess. That is the beauty of evolution.

all conquerors from Alexander's time to Hitlers ... were ruthless

.thats why they are featured in history books and glorified in movies .

they all raped plundered and slaughtered ...on a grand scale

compared to alexander and genghiz khan the mughals and British appear like kindergartner's

from richard Burton to john wayne who played genghis khan in a movie once ...we always seem to glorify the wrong people in movie business with total disregard to actual facts

rashmun's feeling the familiar stirring in the loins whenever he comes across a news article or video talking about bearded muslims from central asia or mideast. he's going to open the mughal and nizam book to wackoff tonight

Rashmun wrote:


 did you know that Genghis Khan was not a muslim?

tell that to the muslims who consider him to be a great hero based not on his deeds but based on the 'khan' in his name .

Dinosaurs may have been the reason Don Lessem went to Mongolia, but it was Genghis Khan that captured his attention.

"We grew up thinking of him as a barbarian," said Lessem, a Philadelphia native and dinosaur guru. "But in reality, we were the barbarians."

In the new traveling exhibit, "Genghis Khan: Bring the Legend to Life" — which opens May 9 at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia — the true story of this notorious conquerer is told. Fascinated by the genius of Khan, Lessem, the developer of the exhibit, wanted to "set the record straight."

"He brought the East and West together," Lessem said, adding that Khan was indeed a true visionary.

"Khan invented passports, paper money, he believed in freedom of religion and tax breaks for clerics. There are so many things that are a part of our everyday lives. We just don't realize it," he said.

The most comprehensive exhibition of Genghis Khan and his treasures, the exhibit features more than 200 artifacts — and many of these artifacts were just recently donated from private collectors in Mongolia and the U.S. The artifacts include jewels, silk robes, ceramics, religious relics, and weapons, including one of the world's earliest guns and a sword carried by one of Marco Polo's guards.

"He was a man who came from nothing. But he knew he was to going to rule the world," said Lessem.

Khan dominated three times more land in his lifetime than Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great. He created the nation of Mongolia and its written language, and he established the modern borders of nations from India to Iran and Korea to China. He also opened trade routes that linked East and West....

And Genghis Khan definitely is an inspiration. He also introduced pants, forks, charcoal, the Pony Express and chopped meat to the West.

"This exhibit sets out to correct some misnomers and showcase Khan both as a legendary warrior and an innovative leader who brought stability and unity to a vast empire," said Dubinski.

Lessem has researched and traveled in Mongolia since 1988. His interest in Khan led him to create the Genghis Khan traveling museum. The exhibit has been in Houston and Chicago. This is the first East Coast stop for the exhibit.
http://www.nj.com/indulge/index.ssf/2015/05/genghis_khan_exhibit_science_meets_history_at_franklin_institute.html