For Impedimenta- Ranee Ramaswamy

by Maria S Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:14 am

Impedimentamma,

Thought this may be of interest to you:)

Pres. Obama nominates Ranee Ramaswamy, as a member of the prestigious National Council on the Arts.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/barack-obama-nominates-indian-american-to-a-key-administration-post/articleshow/15140768.cms

I am not familiar with this lady (interesting to see the way she spells Ranee).. Do you know her? And it's not about Dem vs. Republican! Looks like she has recieved awards from Republicans as well:)

Ranee Ramaswamy: A life in dance

http://blogs.citypages.com/dressingroom/2011/06/ranee_ramaswamy_ragamala.php

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:35 am

thank you M akka for posting this. I have definitely heard of Aparna Ramaswamy, not Ranee. Aparna is really good, of course as expected because her guru is Alamel Valli, a phenomenal BN talent.

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:36 am

also interesting to note that Ranee never mentions her guru or her style of BN in the article.

by Guest Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:39 am

psst, impy, what does this dance mudra mean?

For Impedimenta- Ranee Ramaswamy Mudra10

by garam_kuta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:42 am

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:psst, impy, what does this dance mudra mean?

I am wondering what Propa would say to that question, bhaiya Wink

by Hellsangel Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:44 am

garam_kuta wrote:
I am wondering what Propa would say to that question, bhaiya

You have Propa on your mind a lot, dog!

by garam_kuta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:47 am

Hellsangel wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
I am wondering what Propa would say to that question, bhaiya

You have Propa on your mind a lot, dog!

propa has become a synonym now ? Laughing

by garam_kuta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:50 am

Hellsangel wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
I am wondering what Propa would say to that question, bhaiya

You have Propa on your mind a lot, dog!

wrong tree snoopy..Perhaps you had Jeremy in the mind Surprised

by Hellsangel Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:53 am

Wow! Barking twice, dog! You are excited! Tail wagging too?

by garam_kuta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:56 am

Hellsangel wrote:Wow! Barking twice, dog! You are excited! Tail wagging too?

I wouldn't want to say 'takes one to..' as I was merely playing the game yo Basketball

by Guest Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:56 am

garam_kuta wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:psst, impy, what does this dance mudra mean?

I am wondering what Propa would say to that question, bhaiya

before thinking he does not talk. after talking he won't think. he is only fruit fellow.

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:58 am

huz,

can't see any images from my work PC. Have to use my phone. i just want to know one thing. is propa somehow in that image? scratch

by Guest Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:59 am

LOL.

by garam_kuta Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:00 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:psst, impy, what does this dance mudra mean?

I am wondering what Propa would say to that question, bhaiya
before thinking he does not talk. after thinking he won't talk. he is only fruit fellow.

LOL bhaiya.. yeah, remember God said blood supply only to either brain or drain Razz

by garam_kuta Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:04 pm

Impedimenta wrote:huz,

can't see any images from my work PC. Have to use my phone. i just want to know one thing. is propa somehow in that image?

I am not surprised you don't see Propa.. aiYO aiYo aiaiYo..ROFLMAO.. my stomach is hurting.. will some one call 911 Razz

by Guest Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:05 pm

by Kayalvizhi Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:15 pm

Ranee Ramaswamy is not an Indian in anyway. She is a Mauritius Tamil or Tamil Mauritius.

by MulaiAzhagi Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:33 pm

OMG.

She looks like a ghost. Pisasasu is the right Tamil word for her.

The article says "When she was 26, she moved to the United States with her then-husband and two daughters."

The situation of the desi men who marry these so called artists is really sad. These women hop from once city to the other giving performances to the local desi communities. And their husbands who work hard to support the families have no say in these matters. The family life ends up in tatters. Finally the women being away from the men they are married to end up having affairs with men having similar artistic interests. No wonder these kinds of marriage ends up in a divorce.

by Maria S Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:49 pm

"Pisasu!"...Oh-Oh Sara!

That's all:)

by Maria S Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:57 pm

Impedimenta wrote:also interesting to note that Ranee never mentions her guru or her style of BN in the article.

I wonder why..she should certainly give credit to her Guru/all her Gurus, imo.

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:17 pm

MulaiAzhagi wrote:OMG.

She looks like a ghost. Pisasasu is the right Tamil word for her.

The article says "When she was 26, she moved to the United States with her then-husband and two daughters."

The situation of the desi men who marry these so called artists is really sad. These women hop from once city to the other giving performances to the local desi communities. And their husbands who work hard to support the families have no say in these matters. The family life ends up in tatters. Finally the women being away from the men they are married to end up having affairs with men having similar artistic interests. No wonder these kinds of marriage ends up in a divorce.

Err? Breast beauty and fish eyes are two peas in a pod. where do u come up with such stories? and how come manjay or sanjay never had "experiences" with dancer women?

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:19 pm

Maria S wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:also interesting to note that Ranee never mentions her guru or her style of BN in the article.

I wonder why..she should certainly give credit to her Guru/all her Gurus, imo.

99 percent of BN dancers who are successful are inspired by one or more of their gurus and are almost always passionate about their style. Don't know about her but her daughter sure seems legit.

by MulaiAzhagi Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:33 pm

Impedimenta wrote:

Err? Breast beauty and fish eyes are two peas in a pod. where do u come up with such stories? and how come manjay or sanjay never had "experiences" with dancer women?

===> Thangatchi,

Don't take it personally.

by Kayalvizhi Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:21 pm

>> she should certainly give credit to her Guru/all her

Her teacher was Alarmelu

by Kayalvizhi Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:06 pm

See this. NDTV calls her an Indian American. Thinathanthi called her dancer from Tamil Nadu. (did not say from India)

by Kris Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:47 am

Maria S wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:also interesting to note that Ranee never mentions her guru or her style of BN in the article.

I wonder why..she should certainly give credit to her Guru/all her Gurus, imo.

>>>Its okay Maria. We are used ti being slighted iin this fashion. Thanks for highlighting our plight. Kudos to you.

by Kris Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:58 am

Impedimenta wrote:
MulaiAzhagi wrote:OMG.

She looks like a ghost. Pisasasu is the right Tamil word for her.

The article says "When she was 26, she moved to the United States with her then-husband and two daughters."

The situation of the desi men who marry these so called artists is really sad. These women hop from once city to the other giving performances to the local desi communities. And their husbands who work hard to support the families have no say in these matters. The family life ends up in tatters. Finally the women being away from the men they are married to end up having affairs with men having similar artistic interests. No wonder these kinds of marriage ends up in a divorce.

Err? Breast beauty and fish eyes are two peas in a pod. where do u come up with such stories? and how come manjay or sanjay never had "experiences" with dancer women?

>>>> No, no, no...before we cast aspersions on menopausal professors, was it ever explicitly stated that manjay's friend never danced , gave a recital or two in mylapore, maybe even in Joisey? Indeed I would submit to you that part of the attraction may indeed have been said professor's penchant for mudras.

P.S. I have no idea about mudras, but heck, why let that stop me with weighing in? Smile

by pravalika nanda Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:40 am

i don't know you guys. when was the last time you freed yourself and explored the world and started to make something of yourself in your thirties when your peers were just beginning to settle into motherhood and metabolic syndrome?

this woman is the winner of a 50K award and has been chosen by the president of the united states to some prestigious office. what is she promoting? your culture, your dance, your music, your history. i have never even won 50 dollars.

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

anyhow, you guys remeber that scene from the movie, saptapadi, where the ammalakkalu are taking about the protagonist of the movie and then imagine her dancing to "bhama ne, satya-bhama ne.." adhi guruthukosthundhi.

by Guest Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:45 am

'old bats' Shocked

by pravalika nanda Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:50 am

Natalia Romanova wrote: 'old bats'

oh, i have nothing against bats. sorry if it came off that way.

do you have anything to say about the lady's splendid accomplishments?

by Maria S Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:40 am

pravalika nanda wrote:

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

"Bat"..have never been called that..except when I drive fast..and someone says it looks like "a bat flying out of hell!"..kind of cute..so is an "old bat" Smile

*It's kind of bizarre for someone to completely ignore the fact that - I was the one who posted the news item here..for no other reason..except I was thrilled to see an "Indian lady" being appointed to this prestigious position..was quite accomplished..and would highlight/promote Indian cultural -performing arts..and share it with everyone, esp. Impedimenta who is also a dancer!

Even a half-eye closed bat or rat could see that:) Anyways, people "only see what they want to see"!

It would be nice- if people are grateful do give some credit to their gurus/teachers...but, this lady and others in the end..can do whatever they want to- I do applaud her!

by Hellsangel Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:54 am

Maria,
Are you going to say (in a raspy voice)....
"I am ... the Batgirl!"?

by Maria S Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:59 am

Hellsangel wrote:Maria,
Are you going to say (in a raspy voice)....
"I am ... the Batgirl!"?

Aww..I could, although Catwoman sounds better..Batman:)

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:18 am

pravalika nanda wrote:
Natalia Romanova wrote: 'old bats'

oh, i have nothing against bats. sorry if it came off that way.

do you have anything to say about the lady's splendid accomplishments?

she's probably said "lol" somewhere, and boobsy has probably said "lol" in response.

by Guest Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:22 am

jerry miyan, u didn't click on my LOL link in Beatles Irish connection thread?

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:23 am

Hellsangel wrote:Maria,
Are you going to say (in a raspy voice)....
"I am ... the Batgirl!"?

you still won't gain access; i think she's straight.

by Hellsangel Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:26 am

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:you still won't gain access; i think she's straight.

Aww! Old man, you are so petty and jealous!

by Propagandhi711 Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:26 am

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:Maria,
Are you going to say (in a raspy voice)....
"I am ... the Batgirl!"?
you still won't gain access; i think she's straight.

geriatric romeo,
you will NEVER gain access...she herself said explicitly, followed with some choice expletives (in her own language) several times.

by Kris Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:05 am

pravalika nanda wrote:i

"i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women "

and later this gem in the same post:

." as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" .

>>>>So, are we to conclude that the term "old bat" is a respectful term? Or are "Impy" and "Akka" exempted from the august company of "other women" who deserve respcet?

by Impedimenta Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:25 am

pravalika nanda wrote:i don't know you guys. when was the last time you freed yourself and explored the world and started to make something of yourself in your thirties when your peers were just beginning to settle into motherhood and metabolic syndrome?

this woman is the winner of a 50K award and has been chosen by the president of the united states to some prestigious office. what is she promoting? your culture, your dance, your music, your history. i have never even won 50 dollars.

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

anyhow, you guys remeber that scene from the movie, saptapadi, where the ammalakkalu are taking about the protagonist of the movie and then imagine her dancing to "bhama ne, satya-bhama ne.." adhi guruthukosthundhi.

Ms spring chicken,

Simmer down. got to the library and pick up a book on BN, i am there is one for dummies. after you are done, come back here and we can continue this conversation on BN and the importance of styles and gurus.

by MulaiAzhagi Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:45 am

Thangachhi,

I hope you are not still mad at me.

by Guest Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:46 am

Kris wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:i

"i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women "

and later this gem in the same post:

." as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" .

>>>>So, are we to conclude that the term "old bat" is a respectful term? Or are "Impy" and "Akka" exempted from the august company of "other women" who deserve respcet?

by Hellsangel Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:47 am

Kris wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:i

"i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women "

and later this gem in the same post:

." as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" .

>>>>So, are we to conclude that the term "old bat" is a respectful term? Or are "Impy" and "Akka" exempted from the august company of "other women" who deserve respcet?

For Impedimenta- Ranee Ramaswamy Bats_poster

by pravalika nanda Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:04 am

Impedimenta wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:i don't know you guys. when was the last time you freed yourself and explored the world and started to make something of yourself in your thirties when your peers were just beginning to settle into motherhood and metabolic syndrome?

this woman is the winner of a 50K award and has been chosen by the president of the united states to some prestigious office. what is she promoting? your culture, your dance, your music, your history. i have never even won 50 dollars.

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

anyhow, you guys remeber that scene from the movie, saptapadi, where the ammalakkalu are taking about the protagonist of the movie and then imagine her dancing to "bhama ne, satya-bhama ne.." adhi guruthukosthundhi.

Ms spring chicken,

Simmer down. got to the library and pick up a book on BN, i am there is one for dummies. after you are done, come back here and we can continue this conversation on BN and the importance of styles and gurus.

the thing is, this woman won a grant and all you do is question her pedigree. let us say for a moment that her style and her guru do not show up in these books you speak of, that she trained briefly, intermittently with some unknown mediocre teacher in an obscure village in india, it makes no difference. she accomplished something that the sumathi kaushals, anitha ratnams and the padminis did not.

it is really of no consequence whether she even dances well. she is a pathbreaker for promoting herself so well. also, one who wants to be a pathbreaker will not rely on the styles and gurus of bygone years, they will not look for direction and inspiration from their teachers, esp in dance, it is not a case of standing on the shoulders of giants. and to pick up a book on BN!!! to learn about their styles! my GOD! dance is not a ritual that we continue to do the same god-damn thing that some people did before vaccinations were invented.

by pravalika nanda Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:08 am

Maria S wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

"Bat"..have never been called that..except when I drive fast..and someone says it looks like "a bat flying out of hell!"..kind of cute..so is an "old bat"

*It's kind of bizarre for someone to completely ignore the fact that - I was the one who posted the news item here..for no other reason..except I was thrilled to see an "Indian lady" being appointed to this prestigious position..was quite accomplished..and would highlight/promote Indian cultural -performing arts..and share it with everyone, esp. Impedimenta who is also a dancer!

Even a half-eye closed bat or rat could see that:) Anyways, people "only see what they want to see"!

It would be nice- if people are grateful do give some credit to their gurus/teachers...but, this lady and others in the end..can do whatever they want to- I do applaud her!

**okay.

by Impedimenta Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:03 am

pravalika nanda wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:i don't know you guys. when was the last time you freed yourself and explored the world and started to make something of yourself in your thirties when your peers were just beginning to settle into motherhood and metabolic syndrome?

this woman is the winner of a 50K award and has been chosen by the president of the united states to some prestigious office. what is she promoting? your culture, your dance, your music, your history. i have never even won 50 dollars.

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

anyhow, you guys remeber that scene from the movie, saptapadi, where the ammalakkalu are taking about the protagonist of the movie and then imagine her dancing to "bhama ne, satya-bhama ne.." adhi guruthukosthundhi.

Ms spring chicken,

Simmer down. got to the library and pick up a book on BN, i am there is one for dummies. after you are done, come back here and we can continue this conversation on BN and the importance of styles and gurus.

the thing is, this woman won a grant and all you do is question her pedigree. let us say for a moment that her style and her guru do not show up in these books you speak of, that she trained briefly, intermittently with some unknown mediocre teacher in an obscure village in india, it makes no difference. she accomplished something that the sumathi kaushals, anitha ratnams and the padminis did not.

it is really of no consequence whether she even dances well. she is a pathbreaker for promoting herself so well. also, one who wants to be a pathbreaker will not rely on the styles and gurus of bygone years, they will not look for direction and inspiration from their teachers, esp in dance, it is not a case of standing on the shoulders of giants. and to pick up a book on BN!!! to learn about their styles! my GOD! dance is not a ritual that we continue to do the same god-damn thing that some people did before vaccinations were invented.

Again, it’s very hard for me to have a conversation with someone who labels a rock solid foundation [the one key factor in a successful BN career] in BN as pedigree. I asked you to pick up a book on BN just for this reason, your cluelessness.

Of course I was reading about her write up on BN and made an observation. How she promotes herself and her accomplishments is all praise worthy and no different from several other women I take inspiration from in real life. It is your problem if you assume anything more than just that.

Remember this. Any dancer, however big or small he/she is, will always look up to their style [or a merger of styles they were exposed to] and guru for inspiration. Creativity stems from one’s personality but inspiration for BN dancers will definitely be influenced by one’s style and guru. You really would not know that if you are not in the field.

<p>

by Hellsangel Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:28 am

Impedimenta wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:i don't know you guys. when was the last time you freed yourself and explored the world and started to make something of yourself in your thirties when your peers were just beginning to settle into motherhood and metabolic syndrome?

this woman is the winner of a 50K award and has been chosen by the president of the united states to some prestigious office. what is she promoting? your culture, your dance, your music, your history. i have never even won 50 dollars.

i don't know when we're going to learn to respect other women and give them credit for their work. i'm wavering between amusement and nausea as i watch the two old bats, "impy" and her "akka" talk about who her guru is, how could she not give credit to her guru, is she totally legit or not et cetera.

her guru is irrelevant.

anyhow, you guys remeber that scene from the movie, saptapadi, where the ammalakkalu are taking about the protagonist of the movie and then imagine her dancing to "bhama ne, satya-bhama ne.." adhi guruthukosthundhi.

Ms spring chicken,

Simmer down. got to the library and pick up a book on BN, i am there is one for dummies. after you are done, come back here and we can continue this conversation on BN and the importance of styles and gurus.

the thing is, this woman won a grant and all you do is question her pedigree. let us say for a moment that her style and her guru do not show up in these books you speak of, that she trained briefly, intermittently with some unknown mediocre teacher in an obscure village in india, it makes no difference. she accomplished something that the sumathi kaushals, anitha ratnams and the padminis did not.

it is really of no consequence whether she even dances well. she is a pathbreaker for promoting herself so well. also, one who wants to be a pathbreaker will not rely on the styles and gurus of bygone years, they will not look for direction and inspiration from their teachers, esp in dance, it is not a case of standing on the shoulders of giants. and to pick up a book on BN!!! to learn about their styles! my GOD! dance is not a ritual that we continue to do the same god-damn thing that some people did before vaccinations were invented.

Again, it’s very hard for me to have a conversation with someone who labels a rock solid foundation [the one key factor in a successful BN career] in BN as pedigree. I asked you to pick up a book on BN just for this reason, your cluelessness.

Of course I was reading about her write up on BN and made an observation. How she promotes herself and her accomplishments is all praise worthy and no different from several other women I take inspiration from in real life. It is your problem if you assume anything more than just that.

Remember this. Any dancer, however big or small he/she is, will always look up to their style [or a merger of styles they were exposed to] and guru for inspiration. Creativity stems from one’s personality but inspiration for BN dancers will definitely be influenced by one’s style and guru. You really would not know that if you are not in the field.

<p>

Shush, POKCTAP! Janice is superior to all people around here.

by Hellsangel Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:17 pm

by pravalika nanda Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:22 pm

Again, it’s very hard for me to have a conversation with someone who labels a rock solid foundation [the one key factor in a successful BN career] in BN as pedigree. I asked you to pick up a book on BN just for this reason, your cluelessness.

** it's stupid to read books on bn. once max put up something on bala saraswathi, you thanked him and said you'd watch it. did you? i doubt it cuz you didn't follow it up with further comments. well, i watched it, it was pretty long, and i skipped some parts of it. it was goddamn boring.

Of course I was reading about her write up on BN and made an observation. How she promotes herself and her accomplishments is all praise worthy and no different from several other women I take inspiration from in real life. It is your problem if you assume anything more than just that.

Remember this. Any dancer, however big or small he/she is, will always look up to their style [or a merger of styles they were exposed to] and guru for inspiration. Creativity stems from one’s personality but inspiration for BN dancers will definitely be influenced by one’s style and guru.

** my personal philosophy is to not put people on pedestals, not to search for gurus.

** wrt to bn, i consider it to be the carcass of tamil culture. it's the same thing that they have doing since the stone age that one is forced to watch at these dance recitals: eyes big and wide this way, eye big and wide that way. oh my love for sridhara, oh my devotion for tirumalesa, oh i am pining for soot-colored lover boy sri krishna. same old clothes and jewelry that people wore when the life span was 30.

** two changes have occured - one, some women decided that not only devadasis but middle-class girls should also perform these dances. two, it's all the rage amongst indians in america. poor girls, they think they are imbibing indian culture and history and art. they're just carrying on a ritual and a tradition. they will waste their time putting on tons of make-up, going to these stupid dance classes, spend their money on these costumes that hamper one's movement, they will learn to pine for krishna.

** the women who perform bn are rarely fit or graceful because of it. their styles vary between that of one in a state of lactic acidosis to parkinson's to uremia.

** when has bn been about elegance, grace, flexibililty, freedom, exploration, confidence, spritely men and women?

You really would not know that if you are not in the field.

** well, i did not choose bn cuz i'm not much of a reader.

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by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:49 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
** wrt to bn, i consider it to be the carcass of tamil culture.

i'd like to address other aspects of your screed later, but this is quite interesting. do you also consider western classical music to be the carcass of a moribund western culture? and what about carnatic music?

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