romney bounce

by truthbetold Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:26 am

Did romney get a bounce from convention? He got something positive from convention but how much of a bounce is difficult to tell. Romney and ryan speeches went well and were generally considered acceptable. Romney's softer attacks on obama may help him with women and indies. (Obama islikable guy. He tried but failed. Now time for someone else). Good guy but .. attack could hurt obama seriously and may prove to be the winning strategy of romney and ryan.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:31 am

For all those fact checking liberals, romney's strategist clearly stated that they will not allow fact checking nitwits come in the way of telling romney ryan story.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:25 am

truthbetold wrote:For all those fact checking liberals, romney's strategist clearly stated that they will not allow fact checking nitwits come in the way of telling romney ryan story.

Bush Jr screwed up the economy in a gigantic way, and it will take at least 3 to 4 presidents to rectify this. What it took Carter and Reagan to screw it up - in different ways - was fixed by Clinton's 8 years after 20+ years.

What Bush, Jr did was literally bombing of the US economy.

Remember, Demolition takes only a few hours, but reconstructing something in its place takes months or years.

by Kris Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:01 pm

truthbetold wrote:Did romney get a bounce from convention? He got something positive from convention but how much of a bounce is difficult to tell. Romney and ryan speeches went well and were generally considered acceptable. Romney's softer attacks on obama may help him with women and indies. (Obama islikable guy. He tried but failed. Now time for someone else). Good guy but .. attack could hurt obama seriously and may prove to be the winning strategy of romney and ryan.

>>>I have mostly tuned out. The public is foolish if it believes anyone is going to deliver.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:10 pm

Kris wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Did romney get a bounce from convention? He got something positive from convention but how much of a bounce is difficult to tell. Romney and ryan speeches went well and were generally considered acceptable. Romney's softer attacks on obama may help him with women and indies. (Obama islikable guy. He tried but failed. Now time for someone else). Good guy but .. attack could hurt obama seriously and may prove to be the winning strategy of romney and ryan.

>>>I have mostly tuned out. The public is foolish if it believes anyone is going to deliver.

are you saying elections have no consequences?

by Kris Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:24 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kris wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Did romney get a bounce from convention? He got something positive from convention but how much of a bounce is difficult to tell. Romney and ryan speeches went well and were generally considered acceptable. Romney's softer attacks on obama may help him with women and indies. (Obama islikable guy. He tried but failed. Now time for someone else). Good guy but .. attack could hurt obama seriously and may prove to be the winning strategy of romney and ryan.

>>>I have mostly tuned out. The public is foolish if it believes anyone is going to deliver.

are you saying elections have no consequences?

>>>Lot less than touted. It has become a case of a horse designed by a committee (answer: camel). Add to that, the speechifying during elections is to get the votes and often involves over-promising. I'll be charitable and leave out the lobbying aspect that skews performance toward narrow interests. If I do vote it will be for obama, not because throwing money at problems has proved viable as a strategy, but to keep out the idiots who make common cause with the birther and creationist fools.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:31 pm

well this time it does have consequences. huge personal consequences about retirement, medicare, and social security. right now i'm operating under the assumption that i'll probably have to move to some low cost country if i am going to do this on my own with zero help from the govt.

and maybe this doesn't matter to you, but federal funding of R&D programs has tremendous and quantifiable immediate implications to my life. so no i am not tuning out.

by Kris Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:40 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:well this time it does have consequences. huge personal consequences about retirement, medicare, and social security. right now i'm operating under the assumption that i'll probably have to move to some low cost country if i am going to do this on my own with zero help from the govt.

and maybe this doesn't matter to you, but federal funding of R&D programs has tremendous and quantifiable immediate implications to my life. so no i am not tuning out.

>>> I have assumed for a long time the governmental help (such as it may be) post-retirement is likely to be minimal at best.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:23 pm

Whether repub are good or bad, they are bold in their approach. They are ready to lose. They are ready to do whatever to win, they will confuse, lie, aggressively block voting rights.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:46 pm

truthbetold wrote:Whether repub are good or bad, they are bold in their approach. They are ready to lose. They are ready to do whatever to win, they will confuse, lie, aggressively block voting rights.

i really wonder about your definition of bold. to lie and confuse people, and to try and disenfranchise voters in my book qualifies as the worst kind of cowardice. being bold is to state clear policy positions with numbers and timelines and persuade people to vote for them based on the merits of their policy proposals.

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