Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
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Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
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Here are six things we should never forget about Pakistan.
One, Pakistan’s reason for existence is anti-India. Unlike India, whose reason for existence is the idea of India (secularism, peace, prosperity, etc), the Pakistani state lives only for the sake of enmity to India. This means the idea of Pakistan is bankrupt beyond enmity to India. Till the Pakistanis – state and people – choose to define themselves positively, there is going to be no peace.
Two, if the idea of Pakistan is non-existent, and the idea of India is what enrages Pakistan, it means two things: the Pakistani state will always prepare for war, and the peaceful pauses are merely meant to give them breathing spaces to recuperate and build their war apparatus against us.
Three, there is no point differentiating between the Pakistani state and its people, which our romantic Aman ki Aasha peace-mongers keep drilling into us. The point of this distinction – between state and people – is meaningless since it is the Indian state that is trying to talk peace with the Pakistani state. It is not negotiating with the Pakistani people directly.
Four, if the idea of India has to win over the non-idea of Pakistan, we have to let them stew in their own juice till the illogic and foolishness of creating a state based on Islam and enmity to India is apparent to all thinking Pakistanis and the ordinary people. They have to abandon the idea themselves. As things stand, the people could easily fall prey to the violent ideologies of the Pakistani Taliban – and we have to be prepared for the fallout. We should always be ready for Pakistani perfidy – and this means not accepting any peace overtures at face value even if we decide to talk to them for the sake of world opinion.
Five, India must thus always keep the powder dry because Pakistan has always been preparing for a 1,000-year war. They know that our people have the tendency to forgive and forget Pakistani perfidies a little too quickly. This is why we have never learnt the lessons of 1948, 1965, 1971 and 1999 and 2008 (26/11). Pakistan is counting on the Indian (largely Hindu?) tendency to forget the past and move on even though they themselves will never forget. This is the greatest danger India faces today – our unwillingness to confront the truth about what our enemy is like.
Six, the Pakistanis understand only strength. We have to build our strengths against Pakistan – economically, militarily, and in terms of our terror-fighting capabilities. Till 1971, they underestimated our military strength. Now they underestimate our secularism and economic and strengths. But underpinning it all will be our ability to make Pakistan to pay a price for misadventures. This is what we need to focus on – making them pay.
Two markers will let us know if Pakistan has changed. And these are: the Pakistanis change their constitution to take Islam out of it. If Pakistan becomes truly secular, there is hope for peace. Second, the role of the army is clearly made subordinate to that of the civilian authority in Pakistan. If this happens, we can again begin taking the risk of talking peace with them.
There are other markers – sending the 26/11 plotters to the gallows, etc – but giving MFN status (most favoured nation) status to India or making visas easier are not true markers of a desire for real peace. These are deliberate ploys to lull us to believe that they are thinking peace when they are not. In fact, Pakistan will use freer visas to push more terrorism here.
This is what we should expect from the Pakistani state.
Here are six things we should never forget about Pakistan.
One, Pakistan’s reason for existence is anti-India. Unlike India, whose reason for existence is the idea of India (secularism, peace, prosperity, etc), the Pakistani state lives only for the sake of enmity to India. This means the idea of Pakistan is bankrupt beyond enmity to India. Till the Pakistanis – state and people – choose to define themselves positively, there is going to be no peace.
Two, if the idea of Pakistan is non-existent, and the idea of India is what enrages Pakistan, it means two things: the Pakistani state will always prepare for war, and the peaceful pauses are merely meant to give them breathing spaces to recuperate and build their war apparatus against us.
Three, there is no point differentiating between the Pakistani state and its people, which our romantic Aman ki Aasha peace-mongers keep drilling into us. The point of this distinction – between state and people – is meaningless since it is the Indian state that is trying to talk peace with the Pakistani state. It is not negotiating with the Pakistani people directly.
Four, if the idea of India has to win over the non-idea of Pakistan, we have to let them stew in their own juice till the illogic and foolishness of creating a state based on Islam and enmity to India is apparent to all thinking Pakistanis and the ordinary people. They have to abandon the idea themselves. As things stand, the people could easily fall prey to the violent ideologies of the Pakistani Taliban – and we have to be prepared for the fallout. We should always be ready for Pakistani perfidy – and this means not accepting any peace overtures at face value even if we decide to talk to them for the sake of world opinion.
Five, India must thus always keep the powder dry because Pakistan has always been preparing for a 1,000-year war. They know that our people have the tendency to forgive and forget Pakistani perfidies a little too quickly. This is why we have never learnt the lessons of 1948, 1965, 1971 and 1999 and 2008 (26/11). Pakistan is counting on the Indian (largely Hindu?) tendency to forget the past and move on even though they themselves will never forget. This is the greatest danger India faces today – our unwillingness to confront the truth about what our enemy is like.
Six, the Pakistanis understand only strength. We have to build our strengths against Pakistan – economically, militarily, and in terms of our terror-fighting capabilities. Till 1971, they underestimated our military strength. Now they underestimate our secularism and economic and strengths. But underpinning it all will be our ability to make Pakistan to pay a price for misadventures. This is what we need to focus on – making them pay.
Two markers will let us know if Pakistan has changed. And these are: the Pakistanis change their constitution to take Islam out of it. If Pakistan becomes truly secular, there is hope for peace. Second, the role of the army is clearly made subordinate to that of the civilian authority in Pakistan. If this happens, we can again begin taking the risk of talking peace with them.
There are other markers – sending the 26/11 plotters to the gallows, etc – but giving MFN status (most favoured nation) status to India or making visas easier are not true markers of a desire for real peace. These are deliberate ploys to lull us to believe that they are thinking peace when they are not. In fact, Pakistan will use freer visas to push more terrorism here.
This is what we should expect from the Pakistani state.
Rishi- Posts : 5129
Join date : 2011-09-02
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
Revoke the MFN status to Pakistan
Put the breaks on the indus river treaty...tie it up with Pakis peace and proof of non-interference.
Cut off all cricket/dance/music/bollywood secularists visit to Pakistan.
oppose Pakistan everywhere in any UN/Int'l agencies.
Everytime Pakistan does hanky panky, move into Pakiland take 2 miles of their land and drive their people inside. 2 miles will be just the depth we can move before int'l community starts to talk peace.
Put the breaks on the indus river treaty...tie it up with Pakis peace and proof of non-interference.
Cut off all cricket/dance/music/bollywood secularists visit to Pakistan.
oppose Pakistan everywhere in any UN/Int'l agencies.
Everytime Pakistan does hanky panky, move into Pakiland take 2 miles of their land and drive their people inside. 2 miles will be just the depth we can move before int'l community starts to talk peace.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
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Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Everytime Pakistan does hanky panky, move into Pakiland take 2 miles of their land and drive their people inside. 2 miles will be just the depth we can move before int'l community starts to talk peace.
Yeah right. And then you can plonk yourself on your couch with your popcorn and watch CNN for live images of the mushroom clouds over Delhi / Mbai. Good show, super-patriot NRI.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
Rishi,
Pakistan's biggest force multiplier is it support contingent. no. no. not Indian Muslims. except for few pockets like nizam's razakaar party majlis , Indian Muslims participated in war effort of india . the danger is from wishy wishy politicos and in sandilya's language piece loving secularists.
the fear of nuclear retaliation is nonsensical as Pakistan elite wants to preserve its genetic lines forever.
Pakistan's biggest force multiplier is it support contingent. no. no. not Indian Muslims. except for few pockets like nizam's razakaar party majlis , Indian Muslims participated in war effort of india . the danger is from wishy wishy politicos and in sandilya's language piece loving secularists.
the fear of nuclear retaliation is nonsensical as Pakistan elite wants to preserve its genetic lines forever.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
truthbetold wrote:the fear of nuclear retaliation is nonsensical as Pakistan elite wants to preserve its genetic lines forever.
Hey bring out the bubblies, it's party time. TBT has said that the Pakis will never use any of the nuclear bombs they bankrupted the country to build, so we can now declare open season on the Pakis. Bring out the kukris, let's go get ourselves some Paki heads. Stuffed and mounted, they make for excellent trophies on the living room wall.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
Merlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:the fear of nuclear retaliation is nonsensical as Pakistan elite wants to preserve its genetic lines forever.
Hey bring out the bubblies, it's party time. TBT has said that the Pakis will never use any of the nuclear bombs they bankrupted the country to build, so we can now declare open season on the Pakis. Bring out the kukris, let's go get ourselves some Paki heads. Stuffed and mounted, they make for excellent trophies on the living room wall.
i have to agree with you , pak is crazy enough to use the nukes .
ashdoc- Posts : 2256
Join date : 2011-05-04
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
it's not the establishment in pakistan that one worries about, but the crazies who seem to have close ties to the military.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
Merlot,
go ahead and drink your cheap wine to your chalta hai heaven. If india ever shows fortitude and finds a way to teach pakis a lesson, just stay in your blissful chalta hai mode. I guaratee your safety.
go ahead and drink your cheap wine to your chalta hai heaven. If india ever shows fortitude and finds a way to teach pakis a lesson, just stay in your blissful chalta hai mode. I guaratee your safety.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
truthbetold wrote:Merlot,
go ahead and drink your cheap wine to your chalta hai heaven. If india ever shows fortitude and finds a way to teach pakis a lesson, just stay in your blissful chalta hai mode. I guaratee your safety.
Thanks TBT. It means a lot to me that you are guaranteeing my safety. With that assurance, I can rest easy tonight in my chalta hai heaven.
I sometimes wonder how we as a country would have managed without your extremely insightful analyses and very logically thought out recommendations for policy-making. Most importantly, how would we have survived without your guarantee of safety. Bless you TBT, for gracing India and Indians with your birth and now with your attention.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: Six things we should never forget about Pakistan
The best way to destroy the idea of "iSlamic republic" of PakiSatan - is by fostering the education of women in PakiSatan. If India is smart, it will pour money into this effort.
Pakis can also destroy India without warfare! They can fund kafir fanatics and make them pieceful. If they become pieceful, some will behave like DKheads and others become Advanis and behave like monomaniacs to destroy non-kafir buildings.
Pakis can also destroy India without warfare! They can fund kafir fanatics and make them pieceful. If they become pieceful, some will behave like DKheads and others become Advanis and behave like monomaniacs to destroy non-kafir buildings.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
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