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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
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bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status

does this also include art movies by east european directors with hard to pronounce names?


no, that's just fine taste in movies.

i see so one kind of discernment is just fine taste, and another is snobbery. i see it all now.

at least the individuals putting out the product i like have names which don't result in a sprained tongue.
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Being a tad too touchy, Il Professore? Not seeing the remark for what it is?

oh well, i could say the same for you about max's remark. perspective, ya?

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am

Vidya Bagchi wrote:am not offending or defending anyone. Just an observation. NI has caste system too, for reservations, marriages, and maybe when favoring in business/offices. In arts and all, it's sorta non existant. Language or region demarcation is there to some extent, for example marathi theatre, or bong literature, or punjabi or rajasthani folk, or brij movies, etc. It (language/region) plays out again in office promotions or business too. But otherwise, it's free for all, when it comes to arts. Maybe it's coz bombay and delhi rule north now, and it's open for all. Money drives all sorts of collaborations.

Also, one of my gujju friends teaches BN to neighborhood kids as this had been her lifelong passion. I would have found nothing odd about it if I didn't discover this forum.

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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:51 am

bw wrote:
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bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status

does this also include art movies by east european directors with hard to pronounce names?


no, that's just fine taste in movies.

BW - two words, kazhudai and karpoora vaasanai come to my mind. ok, that's three words. woman, wait till bollywood dance gets classical status.

and you off my fav list of people on SUCH. actually, no because i need one more favor from you:-)

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:55 am

Snobbery/pseudo snobbery is when one tries satisfy one's ego/feel superior by showing off one's taste in fine arts (which they consider to be superior, sophisticated, intellectually higher, etc) and putting down others who enjoy more simpler things. It's all about ego and boosting up one's self-esteem.

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Post by bw Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:00 pm

Impedimenta wrote:i am going to write up a petition to give "bollywood dance" a classical status. what? it has expressions, movements, costume[well, debatable but ya] use of hasthas, drama and even neck and head movements. Sometimes it even makes the audience want to wring someone's neck in frustration.

so, ya.

Rolling Eyes central!

oddly, both BN and bollywood dance do that to me.

camphor fragrance is overrated anyway. i find it suffocating.

yeah, no more quinoa pulav for you!

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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:02 pm

kin kin, all that is fine and dandy but there is a huge problem here. The words you use to describe taste in classical art forms like BN and CM "superior, sophisticated, intellectually higher" are all felt by others who have no interest in it, not by the people who practice it or have vested interest in it. again, perspective!

to me, it is nothing more than a matter of personal interest. that is how i started even getting interested in learning BN. this year, i am going to take my interest in CM to a new level. i am resuming my CM classes along with my daughter and that would inspire me to talk more about artists and raagams. nothing to do with my ego or self esteem. talking for myself, SUCH is the LAST place on earth i would turn to for the sake of stroking my ego.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:03 pm

Impedimenta wrote:kin kin, all that is fine and dandy but there is a huge problem here. The words you use to describe taste in classical art forms like BN and CM "superior, sophisticated, intellectually higher" are all felt by others who have no interest in it, not by the people who practice it or have vested interest in it. again, perspective!

to me, it is nothing more than a matter of personal interest. that is how i started even getting interested in learning BN. this year, i am going to take my interest in CM to a new level. i am resuming my CM classes along with my daughter and that would inspire me to talk more about artists and raagams. nothing to do with my ego or self esteem. talking for myself, SUCH is the LAST place on earth i would turn to for the sake of stroking my ego.

impy, u weren't in my mind when i wrote it. someone else was. I actually read your posts only after i posted mine.

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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:05 pm

bw wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:i am going to write up a petition to give "bollywood dance" a classical status. what? it has expressions, movements, costume[well, debatable but ya] use of hasthas, drama and even neck and head movements. Sometimes it even makes the audience want to wring someone's neck in frustration.

so, ya.

Rolling Eyes central!

oddly, both BN and bollywood dance do that to me.

camphor fragrance is overrated anyway. i find it suffocating.

yeah, no more quinoa pulav for you!

oh good, it is a matter of personal interest then. where is the question of "snooty behavior" in this?

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Post by Hellsangel Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:07 pm

Impedimenta wrote:
bw wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:i am going to write up a petition to give "bollywood dance" a classical status. what? it has expressions, movements, costume[well, debatable but ya] use of hasthas, drama and even neck and head movements. Sometimes it even makes the audience want to wring someone's neck in frustration.

so, ya.

Rolling Eyes central!

oddly, both BN and bollywood dance do that to me.

camphor fragrance is overrated anyway. i find it suffocating.

yeah, no more quinoa pulav for you!

oh good, it is a matter of personal interest then. where is the question of "snooty behavior" in this?

POKCTAP, you and Il Professore getting all worked up about a tongue in cheek remark?
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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:10 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:
bw wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:i am going to write up a petition to give "bollywood dance" a classical status. what? it has expressions, movements, costume[well, debatable but ya] use of hasthas, drama and even neck and head movements. Sometimes it even makes the audience want to wring someone's neck in frustration.

so, ya.

Rolling Eyes central!

oddly, both BN and bollywood dance do that to me.

camphor fragrance is overrated anyway. i find it suffocating.

yeah, no more quinoa pulav for you!

oh good, it is a a matter of personal interest then. where is the question of "snooty behavior" in this?

POKCTAP, you and Il Professore getting all worked up about a tongue in cheek remark?

ya, mine is also a tongue in cheek response. now, i have to prove it somehow? well, here is proof Rolling Eyes

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Post by garam_kuta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:13 pm

Impedimenta wrote:
bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status

does this also include art movies by east european directors with hard to pronounce names?


no, that's just fine taste in movies.

BW - two words, kazhudai and karpoora vaasanai come to my mind. ok, that's three words. woman, wait till bollywood dance gets classical status.

and you off my fav list of people on SUCH. actually, no because i need one more favor from you:-)

I can't think of an evolutionary requirement for kazhudhai to know karpoora vAsanai; anyways, in these things, it takes one to know one, na Razz

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Post by Kris Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:13 pm

auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?

>>>As some SC judge once opined about porn, I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Smile

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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:15 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:
bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status

does this also include art movies by east european directors with hard to pronounce names?


no, that's just fine taste in movies.

BW - two words, kazhudai and karpoora vaasanai come to my mind. ok, that's three words. woman, wait till bollywood dance gets classical status.

and you off my fav list of people on SUCH. actually, no because i need one more favor from you:-)

I can't think of an evolutionary requirement for kazhudhai to know karpoora vAsanai; anyways, in these things, it takes one to know one, na Razz

yet another stereotype, and one that is over used as well. well, going by your own theory, you have identified not one, but two. what does that make you, sir?

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Kris wrote:
auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?

>>>As some SC judge once opined about porn, I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Smile

hmm, maybe u will make a good judge Razz

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:19 pm

Kris wrote:
auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?

>>>As some SC judge once opined about porn, I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Smile

LOL! rings true to me.

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Post by Idéfix Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:20 pm

Kris wrote:
auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?

>>>As some SC judge once opined about porn, I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Smile
Haha, best definition so far...
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Post by garam_kuta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:37 pm

Impedimenta wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:
bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

does this also include art movies by east european directors with hard to pronounce names?


no, that's just fine taste in movies.

BW - two words, kazhudai and karpoora vaasanai come to my mind. ok, that's three words. woman, wait till bollywood dance gets classical status.

and you off my fav list of people on SUCH. actually, no because i need one more favor from you:-)

I can't think of an evolutionary requirement for kazhudhai to know karpoora vAsanai; anyways, in these things, it takes one to know one, na Razz

yet another stereotype, and one that is over used as well. well, going by your own theory, you have identified not one, but two. what does that make you, sir?

I merely inferred by induction only one, based on your theory and claim of the other, M'am ! Razz

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Post by garam_kuta Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:44 pm

panini press wrote:
Kris wrote:
auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?

>>>As some SC judge once opined about porn, I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Smile
Haha, best definition so far...

according to billy crystal or seinfeld i am not sure, it becomes so when those little buttons become visible, i think

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Post by Idéfix Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:49 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
panini press wrote:
Kris wrote:
auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?

>>>As some SC judge once opined about porn, I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Smile
Haha, best definition so far...

according to billy crystal or seinfeld i am not sure, it becomes so when those little buttons become visible, i think
Just for the record, like with most of your posts, I did not understand this one either. Fine.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Maybe gk means either topless or nipples poking thru the top.

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Post by Idéfix Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:54 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:Maybe gk means either topless or nipples poking thru the top.
Oh wow. If you ever decide to switch careers, you should consider becoming a hot dog whisperer.
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Post by artood2 Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:16 pm

bw wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:
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bw wrote:auro, why this desire to interact with us unfit unkils and aunties?
Why "unfit?"


i apologize, i didn't know you were one of those slim and lithe unkils.

Are you fit, Lucy?

you tell me - is a person who regularly runs 10K fit?



Units please..
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Post by Idéfix Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:19 pm

Welcome back, R2D2.
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Post by artood2 Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:19 pm

bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status



Classic!..... lord snooty!
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Post by artood2 Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:20 pm

panini press wrote:Welcome back, R2D2.



Thanks PP. hows the forum treating the great glut admin?
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Post by Nila Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:38 pm

auro wrote:How do we define any art form as classical?
Do we consider an art form classical because it requires great deal of skill acquired through long years of training or because it is performed through certain rules that are laid down and variations aren't encouraged?
Can someone shed light upon this?



Classical art is defined as classical when the art is mostly used to showcase the classical (epical) themes. BN or any other classical dance were mostly performed to define the classical themes like appearance of God, their nature...which remains classic and evergreen and were not improvised and cannot be defined in other arts. Example: A depiction of lord Shiva is alluring in BN or any classical art than in any other form. Lord Shiva's appearance and his form and nature are classic; which means hasn't changed.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:42 pm

this:

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Post by bw Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:11 pm

artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status



Classic!..... lord snooty!

do ya agree? you should know.

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Post by artood2 Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:42 pm

bw wrote:
artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status



Classic!..... lord snooty!

do ya agree? you should know.



I feel compelled to appreciate your snootiness.
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Post by Impedimenta Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:46 pm

artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:
artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status



Classic!..... lord snooty!

do ya agree? you should know.



I feel compelled to appreciate your snootiness.

R2, right under my nose and that too on the eve of v day, u flirt with someone else? not cool....welcome back though. not cool at all

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Post by artood2 Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:25 pm

Impedimenta wrote:
artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:
artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status



Classic!..... lord snooty!

do ya agree? you should know.



I feel compelled to appreciate your snootiness.

R2, right under my nose and that too on the eve of v day, u flirt with someone else? not cool....welcome back though. not cool at all



me and bw akka form a mutual admonition club.. I am learning how to snob. I eventaully want to catch up to Steve jobs.

and you dont talk about all that after leaving me hanging with all those pumpkin spiced lattes
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Post by confuzzled dude Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:43 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:this:

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Did you get one yet! I thought you got G37 a couple of years ago.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:42 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:this:

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Did you get one yet! I thought you got G37 a couple of years ago.

no I got a lexus GS. am considering this cayman it but not in a serious way. cant afford a third car costing 70k nor is two door practical at this stage.

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Post by Captain Bhankas Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:06 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
no I got a lexus GS. am considering this cayman it but not in a serious way. cant afford a third car costing 70k nor is two door practical at this stage.

mmmm lexus. i wish they sold them in india. and i also wish i had money to buy and maintain them. indian market is already open to so many luxury brands but lexus and acura are missing.
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Post by garam_kuta Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:13 am

Captain Bhankas wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
no I got a lexus GS. am considering this cayman it but not in a serious way. cant afford a third car costing 70k nor is two door practical at this stage.

mmmm lexus. i wish they sold them in india. and i also wish i had money to buy and maintain them. indian market is already open to so many luxury brands but lexus and acura are missing.
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Post by artood2 Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:52 pm

bw wrote:
artood2 wrote:
bw wrote:classical - stuff that snooty people feel compelled to appreciate to maintain their snooty status



Classic!..... lord snooty!

do ya agree? you should know.



I agree with the definition
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