hazard a guess

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:16 am

hazard a guess and tell me the CMP for this painting. go ahead.

hazard a guess 18pain.450

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:34 am

CMP meaning?

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:34 am

no idea but since you are asking i am guessing it's more than $10 M. who is it by?

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:35 am

Vidya Bagchi wrote:CMP meaning?

chemical mechanical polishing, corrugated metal pipe, or current market price.

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:38 am

CMP = current market price. this painting is by willem de kooning.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:39 am

did somebody just put it up for sale? i am not too sure, but from my long ago memory of taking an art appreciation class, this is what they call abstract expressionism. i like it.

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:39 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrugated metal pipe

i thought there was no such thing as a corrugated metal pipe but a google search proved that i was wrong.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:42 am

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:corrugated metal pipe
i thought there was no such thing as a corrugated metal pipe but a google search proved that i was wrong.

they are used in baffles in pumps and such things.

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:49 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:did somebody just put it up for sale? i am not too sure, but from my long ago memory of taking an art appreciation class, this is what they call abstract expressionism. i like it.

no, this was last sold in 2006. you are right about the genre.

the artist has expressed his inability to paint very nicely in this picture, siryesssir!

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:54 am

Captain Bhankas wrote:

the artist has expressed his inability to paint very nicely in this picture, siryesssir!

captain -- if you have the time, this might be helpful in understanding why some people like such things:

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:55 am

will check out that vid from home. i am currently reading a bbc article on why art is so expensive. these auctions always baffle me.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:56 am

Hey that looks like a doodle I made one time. So what is the CMP? If there are buyers for such stuff, I'll be happy to sell.

by southindian Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:57 am

This is some 4 year old playing with paint and brush. Nice try and lots of pats by parents.

CMP: Priceless for the parents. $2.99 at any store in US.

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:59 am

hahaha @ MD and SI. i will reveal the price tomorrow. you'll be shocked.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:14 am

southindian wrote:This is some 4 year old playing with paint and brush. Nice try and lots of pats by parents.

CMP: Priceless for the parents. $2.99 at any store in US.

saooththththie -- what does your signature mean?

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:46 am

150 M

by southindian Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:48 am

Maxeeeeee, it also means you now share your DNA with Prince of England and will have another addition to your family after your dog. Your Macchini Kate will soon bless you with a baby.

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:50 am

darn! you are close! this was sold for $137.5 in 2006. good call. this transactions inspires me to start painting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_III

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:18 am

southindian wrote:Maxeeeeee, it also means you now share your DNA with Prince of England and will have another addition to your family after your dog. Your Macchini Kate will soon bless you with a baby.

saoooththththie -- calling random people one's uncle or sister in law is a northindian habit. if you want to turn saooththindian you should abandon that particular habit.

by Impedimenta Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:30 am

vot is this?

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:42 am

So what does this painting convey? What's the interpretation of this abstract expression(ism)?

by Seva Lamberdar Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:43 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
saoooththththie -- calling random people one's uncle or sister in law is a northindian habit. if you want to turn saooththindian you should abandon that particular habit.

True. The north Indians don't feel as closely about random people (strangers and acquitances) as do the south Indians. While the north Indians call strangers only aunty, ankil and sister-in-law etc., the south Indians rarely miss the opportunity to call an outsider as ana (brother) or amma (mother) etc., basically a close blood relative.

by southindian Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:45 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
southindian wrote:Maxeeeeee, it also means you now share your DNA with Prince of England and will have another addition to your family after your dog. Your Macchini Kate will soon bless you with a baby.

saoooththththie -- calling random people one's uncle or sister in law is a northindian habit. if you want to turn saooththindian you should abandon that particular habit.

Hahaha Max.. Max... Max.... not random.

He shares your DNA Max. He's family.

by Hellsangel Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:34 am

BTW, Il Professore, do you refer to yourself as 'Daddy' when talking to Coco?

by Hellsangel Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:38 am

Captain Bhankas wrote:hazard a guess and tell me the CMP for this painting. go ahead.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/18/arts/design/18pain.htm wrote:the hedge fund billionaire Steven A. Cohen privately scooped up a de Kooning “Woman” painting for roughly $137.5 million

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:59 am

Hellsangel wrote:BTW, Il Professore, do you refer to yourself as 'Daddy' when talking to Coco?

no.

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:09 am

Captain Bhankas wrote:darn! you are close! this was sold for $137.5 in 2006. good call. this transactions inspires me to start painting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_III

yeah... total random guess. I debated between 150M and 250M, then decided to go with 150M, coz you gave away the artist name. Guess I read and watch too many stories (fictional) about uppity NY art collectors and robbers.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:06 pm

southindian wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
southindian wrote:Maxeeeeee, it also means you now share your DNA with Prince of England and will have another addition to your family after your dog. Your Macchini Kate will soon bless you with a baby.

saoooththththie -- calling random people one's uncle or sister in law is a northindian habit. if you want to turn saooththindian you should abandon that particular habit.

Hahaha Max.. Max... Max.... not random.

He shares your DNA Max. He's family.

all humans share 99.9% of their DNA. so what's your point?

by iTEDx Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:54 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:did somebody just put it up for sale? i am not too sure, but from my long ago memory of taking an art appreciation class, this is what they call abstract expressionism. i like it.

---I would be very interested to know what a course in art appreciation exactly is. USD 137 M is atrocious!I can still believe someone spending that much for a intricate persian carpet- but for this scary looking blob of a paintjob? I am not exaggerating or joking, but i think the buyers and appreciators of these kinds of paintings have a rare mental disorder that is yet to be characterized and fully studied.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:32 pm

iTEDx wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:did somebody just put it up for sale? i am not too sure, but from my long ago memory of taking an art appreciation class, this is what they call abstract expressionism. i like it.

---I would be very interested to know what a course in art appreciation exactly is. USD 137 M is atrocious!I can still believe someone spending that much for a intricate persian carpet- but for this scary looking blob of a paintjob? I am not exaggerating or joking, but i think the buyers and appreciators of these kinds of paintings have a rare mental disorder that is yet to be characterized and fully studied.

for art appreciation courses, you might want to check in with your local art museum. here are some offered by our mfa:
http://www.mfa.org/programs/gallery-activities-and-tours

and as for mental disorders, prof ramachandran's lecture (link in a post above) covers some of it.

by nevada Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:34 pm

So, how much a painting like this sold for is like asking how long is a piece of string?

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:38 pm

can someone with the knowledge and art appreciation explain why they like this painting, how/what they interpret this and how they analyze this painting, pls (in their own words, not from google).

by iTEDx Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:49 pm

nenu wrote:can someone with the knowledge and art appreciation explain why they like this painting, how/what they interpret this and how they analyze this painting, pls (in their own words, not from google).

I'm curious too. Not sure why the painters don't print a pamphlet elaborating what the paintings mean. Why do they leave it for views to keep endlessly debating on what they signify, much like some songs whose lyrics are quizzical, but the singer is dead so we have no way of ever finding what the lyrics meant.

Im sure MaxEntropy man would have some thought on this paintong as he 'liked it' and is a certifies art appreciator.

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:50 pm

I think the painter means that odd shaped women can also be of a lot of value.

by goodcitizn Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:55 pm

I think I need Nila's heavy eyelids to interpret this painting properly.

by Guest Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:55 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:I think the painter means that odd shaped women can also be of a lot of value.

lol!

I think the artist hates women (or at least at the time of painting it. he prolly broke up with a woman) and hence the grotesque and ugly portrayal of the woman. She looks like a witch.

by southindian Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:02 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
southindian wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
southindian wrote:Maxeeeeee, it also means you now share your DNA with Prince of England and will have another addition to your family after your dog. Your Macchini Kate will soon bless you with a baby.

saoooththththie -- calling random people one's uncle or sister in law is a northindian habit. if you want to turn saooththindian you should abandon that particular habit.

Hahaha Max.. Max... Max.... not random.

He shares your DNA Max. He's family.

all humans share 99.9% of their DNA. so what's your point?

Yeah right.

Max, "We SouthIndians are different than NorthIndians"... Funny and Immature. I'm confident someday you'll grow up.

by iTEDx Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:06 pm

.....the more I look at this painting the angrier I get. What an utter piece of crap rubbish this picture is! UGLY to the core, and more importantly made without any effort! And some egocentric guy bought it for 137 MILLION USD? Makes me so sad for the real but unsung creative people out there who are selling beautiful pieces of art in streets of new york or outside jehangir art gallery. This is ugly piece of shit I wold not pay 2 dollars for. And yes, the 'artist' forgot to attach a PG 13 warning as this shit is downright scary for kids to watch! Ugggg!

by Propagandhi711 Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:09 pm

iTEDx wrote:.....the more I look at this painting the angrier I get. What an utter piece of crap rubbish this picture is! UGLY to the core, and more importantly made without any effort! And some egocentric guy bought it for 137 MILLION USD? Makes me so sad for the real but unsung creative people out there who are selling beautiful pieces of art in streets of new york or outside jehangir art gallery. This is ugly piece of shit I wold not pay 2 dollars for. And yes, the 'artist' forgot to attach a PG 13 warning as this shit is downright scary for kids to watch! Ugggg!

I recommend you take a chill pill

by southindian Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:19 pm

iTEDx wrote:.....the more I look at this painting the angrier I get. What an utter piece of crap rubbish this picture is! UGLY to the core, and more importantly made without any effort! And some egocentric guy bought it for 137 MILLION USD? Makes me so sad for the real but unsung creative people out there who are selling beautiful pieces of art in streets of new york or outside jehangir art gallery. This is ugly piece of shit I wold not pay 2 dollars for. And yes, the 'artist' forgot to attach a PG 13 warning as this shit is downright scary for kids to watch! Ugggg!

You need to watch this. There are many works of art like this one in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPbZDit5_w

by goodcitizn Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:31 pm

southindian wrote:
You need to watch this. There are many works of art like this one in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPbZDit5_w

Kramer is a true classic!

by iTEDx Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:04 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
southindian wrote:
You need to watch this. There are many works of art like this one in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPbZDit5_w

Kramer is a true classic!

Nice link, quite funny. Which according to you is the best Seinfeld character?

by goodcitizn Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:12 pm

iTEDx wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
southindian wrote:
You need to watch this. There are many works of art like this one in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPbZDit5_w

Kramer is a true classic!
Nice link, quite funny. Which according to you is the best Seinfeld character?

The likeability is not based on the best but the worst character. George certainly belongs there!

by southindian Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:01 pm

iTEDx wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
southindian wrote:
You need to watch this. There are many works of art like this one in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPbZDit5_w

Kramer is a true classic!
Nice link, quite funny. Which according to you is the best Seinfeld character?

George. Pure, unadulterated selfish played brilliantly by Jason Alexander.

by iTEDx Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:14 pm

What about Kramer? His funny hair, his tall lanky body- I laugh just looking at him

by goodcitizn Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:55 pm

iTEDx wrote:What about Kramer? His funny hair, his tall lanky body- I laugh just looking at him

Kramer is weird and funny. There are many side characters who are equally warped and interesting like Newman (the mail man), Frank & Estelle Costanza (George's parents), Uncle Leo, Mr. Peterman (Elaine's boss and publisher), George Steinbrenner, Tim Wattley (the dentist) etc., not to mention Poppie (the pizzaria owner), the Soup Nazi and Babu Bhatt.

by Impedimenta Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:36 pm

vot, part 2....

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:17 am

Vidya Bagchi wrote:I think the painter means that odd shaped women can also be of a lot of value.

Haha...

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:26 am

it's hard to analyze art. however, the goal of a painter is seldom to present things realistically, but always to exaggerate, accentuate, and hide and induce the viewer to ask questions. i don't think there is any objective meaning or interpretation of the painting. viewed from that standpoint, i find the discovery of a corpulent female form amidst a riot of brush strokes rewarding to some part of my brain; can't say which. it leads me to the question why the artiste has imbued such grotesqueness to her breasts and thighs. she also has weird coiled fingers which look completely unrealistic. i suppose this element is a forerunner of the surrealist school. it poses a question about the woman's state of mind. is she happy? she seems to be wearing some kind of a hat and is in the process of disrobing. what is she about to do?

by Captain Bhankas Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:25 am

i don't know about you people but i am inspired to take up painting as a hobby. i will start painting very soon and i hope i paint pictures that can decor the walls of the louvre and the living room of the prince of brunei. i want the earls of nottingham and lords of puddigham to discuss my art over high tea. i want wealthy investment bankers and fund managers to discuss my latest creations in scotch bars smoking cigars. i want art students all over the world to debate the meanings of my paintings endlessly, hopelessly trying to ape my creations. i want accomplished thieves all over europe to think about stealing my work.

give me a week to contemplate life and don't disturb me.

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