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Force of habit
Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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Re: Force of habit
Hellsangel wrote:On that note, GC, how are you?
LOL! The polite part of me wants to say, "Oh, fine. Thanks for asking!" and the not-so-polite part of me wants to say, "Why are you asking me the rhetoric question when you know what I'll say?"
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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Re: Force of habit
I like this over polite behavior better than the rude, inconsiderate behavior shown by people in India.
nevada- Posts : 1831
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nevada wrote:I like this over polite behavior better than the rude, inconsiderate behavior shown by people in India.
You have a point.
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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A few weeks ago, I was talking on phone with someone in India on my way to work. The person on phone listened to my thanks while I was getting coffee and another thanks to someone for something while I was getting out of elevator. The person in India was surprised listening to 3~4 thanks on phone. I think Indians in India say thanks when they really mean it in most cases. Americans OTOH say things because of habit and politeness.goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
southindian- Posts : 4643
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southindian wrote:A few weeks ago, I was talking on phone with someone in India on my way to work. The person on phone listened to my thanks while I was getting coffee and another thanks to someone for something while I was getting out of elevator. The person in India was surprised listening to 3~4 thanks on phone. I think Indians in India say thanks when they really mean it in most cases. Americans OTOH say things because of habit and politeness.goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
Thanks for sharing.
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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Re: Force of habit
"sharing" requires an object, for example, "the anecdote," unless you're a mother speaking to her 3-year-old child.goodcitizn wrote:southindian wrote:A few weeks ago, I was talking on phone with someone in India on my way to work. The person on phone listened to my thanks while I was getting coffee and another thanks to someone for something while I was getting out of elevator. The person in India was surprised listening to 3~4 thanks on phone. I think Indians in India say thanks when they really mean it in most cases. Americans OTOH say things because of habit and politeness.goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
Thanks for sharing.
Jebediah Mburuburu- Posts : 223
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goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
You are father is so so right...
That is why I dont practice any of these superficial western etiquette - to save others coming across as rude.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
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Re: Force of habit
Many thanks for opening this thread GC.
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
You are father is so so right...
That is why I dont practice any of these superficial western etiquette - to save others coming across as rude.
My dad and I used to argue on this point a lot. I don't see anything wrong in saying "please" or "thank you" as a courtesy. It bothers me that Indians seldom use the word "please" when they ask for something, or "excuse me" when they interrupt during a meeting. Some manners, howsoever superficial, are better than no manners.
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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you are so funny. and "you are" language is also funny.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
You are father is so so right...
That is why I dont practice any of these superficial western etiquette - to save others coming across as rude.
Jebediah Mburuburu- Posts : 223
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Re: Force of habit
confuzzled dude wrote:Many thanks for opening this thread GC.
You are ever so welcome, CD.
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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Re: Force of habit
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:"sharing" requires an object, for example, "the anecdote," unless you're a mother speaking to her 3-year-old child.goodcitizn wrote:southindian wrote:A few weeks ago, I was talking on phone with someone in India on my way to work. The person on phone listened to my thanks while I was getting coffee and another thanks to someone for something while I was getting out of elevator. The person in India was surprised listening to 3~4 thanks on phone. I think Indians in India say thanks when they really mean it in most cases. Americans OTOH say things because of habit and politeness.goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
Thanks for sharing.
So nice to see that your tax dollars are paying for the services of the :
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: Force of habit
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:"sharing" requires an object, for example, "the anecdote," unless you're a mother speaking to her 3-year-old child.goodcitizn wrote:southindian wrote:A few weeks ago, I was talking on phone with someone in India on my way to work. The person on phone listened to my thanks while I was getting coffee and another thanks to someone for something while I was getting out of elevator. The person in India was surprised listening to 3~4 thanks on phone. I think Indians in India say thanks when they really mean it in most cases. Americans OTOH say things because of habit and politeness.goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
Thanks for sharing.
It is not necessary to say "Thanks for sharing your comment" when "Thanks for sharing" implies it.
goodcitizn- Posts : 3263
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goodcitizn wrote:
It is not necessary to say "Thanks for sharing your comment" when "Thanks for sharing" implies it. Now I know why I suffer from ADD when I see your posts.
Please,GC! Achachan Jebz needs to feel useful and show that the tax payer dollars spent on him are a good investment. Where else can he show that he is useful?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:you are so funny. and "you are" language is also funny.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Yesterday, while coming down the elevator all alone, I sneezed and automatically said "Excuse me!" Realized it was a force of habit.
Then I remembered a conversation I had with my late father years ago. We were at a gas station when the attendant took my money for the bill and returned the change. I said, "Thank you" when I received it. While we were in the car my dad asked me curiosly why I had thanked him when he wasn't doing any favor. I smiled and said I was just being polite and it was good etiquette. Then he commented that there were two problems with this philosophy on etiquette. One, thanking when it was not necessary meant that the next person who failed to thank would automatically be construed as being rude; and, second, such meaningless routine gesture of thanks takes away from really thanking someone for his or her good deed. Then he started his usual tirade on the superficiality of western etiquettes.
Well, just an anecdote. Nothing to sneeze about.
You are father is so so right...
That is why I dont practice any of these superficial western etiquette - to save others coming across as rude.
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