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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:01 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
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Kris wrote:>>>Just saw her on youtube. Cute girl.
oh yeah, she is very cute. nice, regular, hard-working girl, no political or caste connections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJOWvBpZ3E
i thought you're the kind of person that is put off by pageants.
oh come on, max, how can I not be excited when a telugu girl from new york wins? and she's so earthy and indian-looking. she's not arab-looking like hema malini or iranian-looking like kareena or mixed-race like parvathi melton. she's a real typical dusky telugu girl and by thinking outside the box and going for this competition she's achieved something special.

that she won in atlantic city, in America when even in India she would not have won because Indians are far more racist, bigoted, and just downright nasty, trashy, casteist attests to the simple fact that america is the place where one can find fairness, equality and justice. it just makes me so proud of American people. just like you know, when Obama won, it made me respect Americans.

you know what i'd like to see, i think after this they have the miss universe pageant. i'd like to see nina davuluri win the miss universe pageant beating whatever junky fair or arab-indian kaboothar trash the Indians will drool over and serve up for the competition.

as an indian woman i'm happy that people with dark skin are appreciated for their beauty, it makes it easier for me to accept my looks and not be made to feel deficient.
so your objection to beauty pageants (i seem to remember you saying something about them in the past, maybe i am mistaken) is not that they objectify women, that men drool over the pageants, but that they objectify the wrong kind of women? is that it? i thought your dislike of them was based on something bigger than petty jealousy.
** pls see my previous post in this thread. i have no strong opinion on the pageant, i haven't seen one. the girls strut in their bikins and like to show off their looks, what's the big deal?

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Post by Kris Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:02 am

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Petrichor wrote:Did you see the crowd roar with approval when she did the bollywood fusion number? Totally grin-worthy for all desis...
cringe-worthy, you mean? Twisted Evil
why must you brush everything off like that? she did a beautiful job dancing.
am sure she did (i haven't watched it) but the thought of bollywood dance greeted with a roar of approval makes me cringe.
>>>I agree. I'd have thought she would have gone with Bharatanatyam, but you also have to consider the caliber of the show and the audience.

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Post by bw Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:13 am

Kris wrote:
bw wrote:
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bw wrote:
Petrichor wrote:Did you see the crowd roar with approval when she did the bollywood fusion number? Totally grin-worthy for all desis...
cringe-worthy, you mean? Twisted Evil
why must you brush everything off like that? she did a beautiful job dancing.
am sure she did (i haven't watched it) but the thought of bollywood dance greeted with a roar of approval makes me cringe.
>>>I agree. I'd have thought she would have gone with Bharatanatyam, but you also have to consider the caliber of the show and the audience.
true - cheesy dance for a cheesy show.

i hate it when most people assume that bollywood(and other assorted woods) is the only representation of indian culture. i used to clarify, educate and talk about other aspects of indian culture when i was young and energetic about all that. now, i just nod my head and say, yeah, we are like that only.

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Post by Kris Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:27 am

bw wrote:
Kris wrote:
bw wrote:
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bw wrote:cringe-worthy, you mean? Twisted Evil
why must you brush everything off like that? she did a beautiful job dancing.
am sure she did (i haven't watched it) but the thought of bollywood dance greeted with a roar of approval makes me cringe.
>>>I agree. I'd have thought she would have gone with Bharatanatyam, but you also have to consider the caliber of the show and the audience.
true - cheesy dance for a cheesy show.

i hate it when most people assume that bollywood(and other assorted woods) is the only representation of indian culture. i used to clarify, educate and talk about other aspects of indian culture when i was young and energetic about all that. now, i just nod my head and say, yeah, we are like that only.
>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.

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Post by truthbetold Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:06 pm

Pn ,
thanks for your extra ordinary knowledge of india .

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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:29 pm

truthbetold wrote:Pn  ,
thanks for your extra ordinary knowledge of india .
oh, no problem. india: land where it is easier for a man to rape than go out on a date. india: land where you can buy kidneys on the street - organ transplant or kebabs, your choice. india: land where people prefer porn to sex education. a sick sick country full of uneducated self-righteous puritans on one hand and hate-filled violent goons on the other. are you going fishing in india? try not catch salmonella.

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Post by indophile Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:45 pm

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>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.
It appears it surely was. Obviously she could not have done a BN or Kuchipudi number with nattuvangam and all. Just the makeup, even for a pretty girl like her, takes ages.

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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:59 pm

indophile wrote:
Kris wrote:
>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.
It appears it surely was. Obviously she could not have done a BN or Kuchipudi number with nattuvangam and all. Just the makeup, even for a pretty girl like her, takes ages.
but bn/kuchipudi are not synonymous with india like indian cinema dance numbers are and hence they do not deserve to be presented on the international stage. for eg, bn is a dance that a tiny portion of the south indian elite appreciates and for a long time monopolized (after they stole it from the devadasi types). further, bn has remained the same since its inception, with no real growth, depth, breadth, fusion, inclusion, experimentation or appeal. bn is so unpopular unless you're the nouveau riche or culturally unmoored and trying to find a place in a particular niche of society. basically the culturally elite like it and they should continue to enjoy it, no need to subject the rest of us to the dance of anaerobic glycolysis. Bollywood dances are fun, inclusive, have exciting choreography and are just enjoyable. and just look at how people from every nook and cranny of the world dance to Bollywood numbers, it's utterly ridiculous to bring up bn into this discussion, when in fact you should be recognizing bolly's contribution to making all things indian popular and likeable. what did bn do for us? please tell me.


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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:13 pm

indophile wrote:
Kris wrote:
>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.
It appears it surely was. Obviously she could not have done a BN or Kuchipudi number with nattuvangam and all. Just the makeup, even for a pretty girl like her, takes ages.
yeah, bn is just about the make up and costumes and jewelry, and the woman gets on the stage and has very little to do. thankfully, one can always hope to listen to excellent nattuvangam and great music at these "dance" recitals.

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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:34 pm

oh guess what: I just started to watch the show on youtube. everyone's so weird. there was another indian girl in the same miss usa competition, her name is bindhu pamarthi. very very ugly girl. doesn't that shound like a telugu name also? her talent thing was also a Bollywood dance.

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Post by FluteHolder Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:03 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:yeah, bn is just about the make up and costumes and jewelry, and the woman gets on the stage and has very little to do.
Ya. Tell me about. It is just nothing at all...






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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:05 pm

i watched parts of the show, smtg like a circus, could make one nauseous. but nina is very beautiful.

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Post by pravalika nanda Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:19 pm

oh my god, I think i'm having beauty pageant-toxicity. I gotta get out of here.

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Post by bw Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:18 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
but bn/kuchipudi are not synonymous with india like indian cinema dance numbers are and hence they do not deserve to be presented on the international stage. for eg, bn is a dance that a tiny portion of the south indian elite appreciates and for a long time monopolized (after they stole it from the devadasi types). further, bn has remained the same since its inception, with no real growth, depth, breadth, fusion, inclusion, experimentation or appeal. bn is so unpopular unless you're the nouveau riche or culturally unmoored and trying to find a place in a particular niche of society. basically the culturally elite like it and they should continue to enjoy it, no need to subject the rest of us to the dance of anaerobic glycolysis. Bollywood dances are fun, inclusive, have exciting choreography and are just enjoyable. and just look at how people from every nook and cranny of the world dance to Bollywood numbers, it's utterly ridiculous to bring up bn into this discussion, when in fact you should be recognizing bolly's contribution to making all things indian popular and likeable. what did bn do for us? please tell me.
haha, am not a fan of BN(can't bear to sit through any recital). in addition, it brings back some bad childhood memories involving a sadistic teacher. that said, indian cinema/songs identified as bollywood and its ilk is definitely disturbing.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:23 pm

bw wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
but bn/kuchipudi are not synonymous with india like indian cinema dance numbers are and hence they do not deserve to be presented on the international stage. for eg, bn is a dance that a tiny portion of the south indian elite appreciates and for a long time monopolized (after they stole it from the devadasi types). further, bn has remained the same since its inception, with no real growth, depth, breadth, fusion, inclusion, experimentation or appeal. bn is so unpopular unless you're the nouveau riche or culturally unmoored and trying to find a place in a particular niche of society. basically the culturally elite like it and they should continue to enjoy it, no need to subject the rest of us to the dance of anaerobic glycolysis. Bollywood dances are fun, inclusive, have exciting choreography and are just enjoyable. and just look at how people from every nook and cranny of the world dance to Bollywood numbers, it's utterly ridiculous to bring up bn into this discussion, when in fact you should be recognizing bolly's contribution to making all things indian popular and likeable. what did bn do for us? please tell me.
haha, am not a fan of BN(can't bear to sit through any recital). in addition, it brings back some bad childhood memories involving a sadistic teacher. that said, indian cinema/songs identified as bollywood and its ilk is definitely disturbing.
You guys are jealous. Both of you must be feeling that either one of you could have been would have been and should have been Ms. Amrika...Razz

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Post by bw Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:51 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
bw wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
but bn/kuchipudi are not synonymous with india like indian cinema dance numbers are and hence they do not deserve to be presented on the international stage. for eg, bn is a dance that a tiny portion of the south indian elite appreciates and for a long time monopolized (after they stole it from the devadasi types). further, bn has remained the same since its inception, with no real growth, depth, breadth, fusion, inclusion, experimentation or appeal. bn is so unpopular unless you're the nouveau riche or culturally unmoored and trying to find a place in a particular niche of society. basically the culturally elite like it and they should continue to enjoy it, no need to subject the rest of us to the dance of anaerobic glycolysis. Bollywood dances are fun, inclusive, have exciting choreography and are just enjoyable. and just look at how people from every nook and cranny of the world dance to Bollywood numbers, it's utterly ridiculous to bring up bn into this discussion, when in fact you should be recognizing bolly's contribution to making all things indian popular and likeable. what did bn do for us? please tell me.
haha, am not a fan of BN(can't bear to sit through any recital). in addition, it brings back some bad childhood memories involving a sadistic teacher. that said, indian cinema/songs identified as bollywood and its ilk is definitely disturbing.
You guys are jealous. Both of you must be feeling that either one of you could have been would have been and should have been Ms. Amrika...Razz
scratch

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Post by Kris Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:59 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
indophile wrote:
Kris wrote:
>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.
It appears it surely was. Obviously she could not have done a BN or Kuchipudi number with nattuvangam and all. Just the makeup, even for a pretty girl like her, takes ages.
but bn/kuchipudi are not synonymous with india like indian cinema dance numbers are and hence they do not deserve to be presented on the international stage. for eg, bn is a dance that a tiny portion of the south indian elite appreciates and for a long time monopolized (after they stole it from the devadasi types). further, bn has remained the same since its inception, with no real growth, depth, breadth, fusion, inclusion, experimentation or appeal. bn is so unpopular unless you're the nouveau riche or culturally unmoored and trying to find a place in a particular niche of society. basically the culturally elite like it and they should continue to enjoy it, no need to subject the rest of us to the dance of anaerobic glycolysis. Bollywood dances are fun, inclusive, have exciting choreography and are just enjoyable. and just look at how people from every nook and cranny of the world dance to Bollywood numbers, it's utterly ridiculous to bring up bn into this discussion, when in fact you should be recognizing bolly's contribution to making all things indian popular and likeable. what did bn do for us? please tell me.
>>>> Why is it ridiculous to bring up BN? Is she representing India in the Miss America pageant or is the idea to showcase the individual contestants' talents? You may find BW dance numbers to be a great contribution to the cultural scene. For the most part, I find them garish.

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Post by Idéfix Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:30 am

Below is my full reaction to this thread.

Day 1: Sleep 
Day 2: Shocked 
Day 3: affraid 
Day 4: tearing hair out 

I dare not dream about what tomorrow will bring.
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Post by Kris Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:07 am

indophile wrote:
Kris wrote:
>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.
It appears it surely was. Obviously she could not have done a BN or Kuchipudi number with nattuvangam and all. Just the makeup, even for a pretty girl like her, takes ages.
>>>good point!

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Post by Impedimenta Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:55 am

Kris wrote:
indophile wrote:
Kris wrote:
>>>It may have been a calculated move. There was a certain garishness to the dance which she probably thought would play well. All that said, I think they should do away with this contest altogether.
It appears it surely was. Obviously she could not have done a BN or Kuchipudi number with nattuvangam and all. Just the makeup, even for a pretty girl like her, takes ages.
>>>good point!
My reply is to indo. No, these days, a lot of artists including myself don't dress up the traditional way for all BN recitals. depending on the occasion and the audience and of course the length of the show, costumes and make up have become considerably simple and most of the time, i do my own make up myself. nattuvanagam? you are kidding yourself. Other than arengetrams, even prominent artists use recorded music. 

Other then this, i have nothing to contribute to this headache inducing stupid ass thread and replies.

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Post by pravalika nanda Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:34 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
there are a few good bn pieces and dancers. however bn does not deserve the high place that the such crowd insists upon. bolly has made a bigger, positive impact across the world and it's a shame that southern indinas refuse to acknowledge that. 

i went to a sangeet recently and people of every age, even a woman in chronic heart failure and an old woman with a cane prepared and staged bolly dances for the occasion. an equal number of men also partook in it. the music was great, everyone had very nice, clean decent fun. can you say that about the bn, where upper middle class women lounge around talking about gurus and pedigrees and at the end of it subject us to mostly boring moves? bolly is not perfect of course, but it is in several ways superior to bn. cuz no matter how many years of bn or kuchipudi a girl takes she knows that the winning song is always going to be from bollywood.

also if a girl has a choice between k and bn, I suggest she go for kuchipudi, because it is a dance-drama there are more themes to explore there. I have actually seen a kuchipudi dance drama on spousal abuse and alcoholism in an indian village. kuchipudi has kept up with the times and is also accessible to the common, even uneducated man. Maybe that automatically demotes kuchipudi for several people here. Also, when a dancer is balancing a pot on her head with her feet in a brass plate, the audience is not only awake, it's exciting for them and they empathize with the dancer. Kuchipudi also is set to excellent music and singing.

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Post by pravalika nanda Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:37 pm

Idéfix wrote:Below is my full reaction to this thread.

Day 1: Sleep 
Day 2: Shocked 
Day 3: affraid 
Day 4: tearing hair out 

I dare not dream about what tomorrow will bring.
lol, i made you speechless!

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:50 pm

If not bn, if not kuchipudi (dunno what it is), if not katthak (Which I like the most I guess), if not Bollywood, if not Bhangra, if not garba or dandiya, then what is the dance of India? Isn't Bollywood dance a simplified and comprehensive version of all of the above, including western dances as well.

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Post by pravalika nanda Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:59 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:If not bn, if not kuchipudi (dunno what it is), if not katthak (Which I like the most I guess), if not Bollywood, if not Bhangra, if not garba or dandiya, then what is the dance of India? Isn't Bollywood dance a simplified and comprehensive version of all of the above, including western dances as well.
india is a very large country. all indian dances are like brothers and sisters. so love your country and be proud of its rich and varied heritage.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:41 pm

sangeet means music. so what does going to a sangeet mean?
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Post by Rishi Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:05 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:sangeet means music. so what does going to a sangeet mean?
Is it not some kind of a pre-wedding ceremony for NI folks?

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Post by Petrichor Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:21 pm

Sangeet is now officially part of an increasingly ingratiating southern indian pair-bonding ritual.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:39 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:sangeet means music. so what does going to a sangeet mean?
It means you will be going to a pre-wedding ceremony where the bride is singing happily and the Groom is singing sadly.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:57 pm

Rishi wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:sangeet means music. so what does going to a sangeet mean?
Is it not some kind of a pre-wedding ceremony for NI folks?
The Sangeet of today is a much larger and god knows what version of sangeet that we saw growing up.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:13 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:
Rishi wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:sangeet means music. so what does going to a sangeet mean?
Is it not some kind of a pre-wedding ceremony for NI folks?
The Sangeet of today is a much larger and god knows what version of sangeet that we saw growing up.
wait. so sangeet is the name for a ceremony like rishi said? i have always thought that sangeet means music.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:36 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:
Rishi wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:sangeet means music. so what does going to a sangeet mean?
Is it not some kind of a pre-wedding ceremony for NI folks?
The Sangeet of today is a much larger and god knows what version of sangeet that we saw growing up.
wait. so sangeet is the name for a ceremony like rishi said? i have always thought that sangeet means music.
When i was growing up, 1 or 2 days before the wedding, specially while the women folks were getting mehendi done, all the women from the family and neighborhood would get together. Someone would have a dholak and/or harmonium on, and they would sing usual wedding songs, usually their own folk songs in their own dialect - I have seen UP and marwari. Some of the songs would be geared towards teasing the bride or the MIL to be. Every once in a while, some women or girls would get up and dance. There would be simple songs formulated to talk about this aunt or that aunt of the bride of the groom and they would get up and dance. There would always be some show-stealers, who would dance amazingly, or singers who sang amazingly. But it was always about getting in the mood of the wedding and setting the right stage. If there was a dholki called, there would be money collected and given to him. Sometimes this gana-bajana would go through the night. Sometimes men folk would also participate. Was nothing like stage fashion parege and musicians and bollywood and 2-week rehearsals and event organizers of today. But it's also good to see a well orchestrated show, they also try to bring the old flavor back by bringing in all the important family members and making them participate. In XH's family, the trend is to book a discotheque and/or get over a DJ and they go crazy dancing all night before the wedding, sometimes after it too. That's the modern marathi for you. Dunno what they did in earlier times.

Would be something like these below although the pareeneeta version is too bollywoody, but ya, there would be stories in the songs, all meant to tease the bride or the groom or their parents. Can't find the real video of banno rani from The Earth. From what I remember, that would be pretty close too to what I have seen. Movies also pick from from old folk songs and simplify them to be viewed by the whole country.






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Post by Guest Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:09 pm

There are few of the songs i remember, but will quote this one coz my sis and I had LOLed when we first heard it. This one was when the bride came to sit down in the center of the group

meri poori naram mera halwa garam
tujhe ajmer ke ladke pe itna ghamand
kahi dilli ka hota to karti julam

then the song would go making it bombay or london or paris or new york, and then it would build up based on its on whoever wanted to join singing and add other rhymes or words or cities to it, until someone came up with a new song, and so on.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:13 pm

sorry can't relate. no reference frame at all. so it's just some hi-jinkery by people imagining themselves to be in bollywood?


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Post by Guest Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:15 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:sorry can't relate. no reference frame at all.
yeah all silly stuff. fun only if you are a part of it.

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Post by Kris Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:15 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:There are few of the songs i remember, but will quote this one coz my sis and I had LOLed when we first heard it. This one was when the bride came to sit down in the center of the group

meri poori naram mera halwa garam
tujhe ajmer ke ladke pe itna ghamand
kahi dilli ka hota to karti julam

then the song would go making it bombay or london or paris or new york, and then it would build up based on its on whoever wanted to join singing and add other rhymes or words or cities to it, until someone came up with a new song, and so on.
>>> We should do a Such version of this. PN could lead the dance (certain dances will not be allowed- no prizes for guessing which) Smile

(wait, can we throw in any town into the mix.. I mean like Fresno or Newark?)

Of course, you can be the host.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:56 pm

i just realized, I started this tiresome thread!

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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:58 am

Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews

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Post by southindian Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:05 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews
Does that include aloo-gobi, gobi-aloo, gobi-gobi and aloo-aloo dishes? Your list looks complete.

I can add enjoying paneer-masala dosa delicacy to my list while watching Rascala movies.
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Post by garam_kuta Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:22 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews
i doubt it...when done au naturel


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Post by Guest Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:23 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews
What's so bad about UP food? Sad

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:36 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
aiyyo ji! just as you throw out hyderabadi/nizami cuisine when you throw out AP cuisine, you throw out mughlai and awadhi cuisine with UP cuisine. i am not much of a fan of chicken pulusu (or any chicken curry for that matter -- with the exception of butter chicken) or gongura pachadi but give me hyderabadi biryani any day!

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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:37 am

Vidya Bagchi wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews
What's so bad about UP food? Sad
whats good about it? my experience came from eating home cooked food a few times and eating in agra and allahabad. I could go for another lifetime without eating it again. same goes for gujju food...I detest it more than UP food infact

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:44 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews
What's so bad about UP food? Sad
whats good about it? my experience came from eating home cooked food a few times and eating in agra and allahabad. I could go for another lifetime without eating it again. same goes for gujju food...I detest it more than UP food infact
What about all the famous snacks and chaats and sweets that originated in UP?

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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:48 am

Vidya Bagchi wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:Here are a few things I'd rather undergo than watch a bn program, live or recorded:
undergo waterboarding
Take daily bath in the ganges
Join the cult of i-slam
Give up meat
Listen to ms subbulacchi and her sonorous whining while doing cardio
Watch a tolly,bolly,kolly,jolli,Molly,dolly,Polly,rolly wood movie more than once a year
Put my nuts on a table and have them whacked with a wadded up wet newspaper
Eat uttarpradesh food more than once in 5 yrs
Play cards with Jews
What's so bad about UP food? Sad
whats good about it? my experience came from eating home cooked food a few times and eating in agra and allahabad. I could go for another lifetime without eating it again. same goes for gujju food...I detest it more than UP food infact
What about all the famous snacks and chaats and sweets that originated in UP?  
I dont like the excessively sugary sweets, snacks meh...

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:53 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:
What's so bad about UP food? Sad
whats good about it? my experience came from eating home cooked food a few times and eating in agra and allahabad. I could go for another lifetime without eating it again. same goes for gujju food...I detest it more than UP food infact
be bold and say you detest north indian cuisine. which north indian state's cuisine you like? rajasthan? bihar? punjab? kashmir? bengal? jharkhand?

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:20 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:
What's so bad about UP food? Sad
whats good about it? my experience came from eating home cooked food a few times and eating in agra and allahabad. I could go for another lifetime without eating it again. same goes for gujju food...I detest it more than UP food infact
be bold and say you detest north indian cuisine. which north indian state's cuisine you like? rajasthan? bihar? punjab? kashmir? bengal? jharkhand?
i love maharashtrian food. uncomplicated, nutritious, not oily and fattening, and flavorful.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:31 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:
What's so bad about UP food? Sad
whats good about it? my experience came from eating home cooked food a few times and eating in agra and allahabad. I could go for another lifetime without eating it again. same goes for gujju food...I detest it more than UP food infact
be bold and say you detest north indian cuisine. which north indian state's cuisine you like? rajasthan? bihar? punjab? kashmir? bengal? jharkhand?
I had a few rajastani dishes and they were good: mainly banjara dal (sickly dal), some okra based dish & stuffed bitter gourd dish and the usual kadi dishes of the marwadis. punjab is ok, so is bengali. does bihar have a cuisine of it's own? kashmir food is too rich for my taste and too mild

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:13 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
I had a few rajastani dishes and they were good: mainly banjara dal (sickly dal), some okra based dish & stuffed bitter gourd dish and the usual kadi dishes of the marwadis. punjab is ok, so is bengali. does bihar have a cuisine of it's own? kashmir food is too rich for my taste and too mild
no bihar does not have a cuisine of it's own for north indian cuisine is a continuum (perhaps kashmir can be excluded here). but there are a few signature bihari dishes -- litti chokha, sattu and hotel mamta's tandoori chicken in bhaktiarpur.

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Post by indophile Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:46 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
no bihar does not have a cuisine of it's own for north indian cuisine is a continuum (perhaps kashmir can be excluded here). but there are a few signature bihari dishes -- litti chokha, sattu and hotel mamta's tandoori chicken in bhaktiarpur.
Also there is no one Bengali cuisine. For example, Sylhet cuisine is very different in that there's very little fish in their specialties; it's all meat, meat, and more meat. Also, there is lot of difference in the cooking styles of West Bengal and East Bengal.

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