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Alternative to Obamacare
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:00 pm
..I have a diehard repub like HA at work. Today I said...let the repub come up with an alternative plan for Obamacare, and we can look at it. They never did anything during repub presidencies, and keep saying no to anything the Dems come up with.
So what are the alternatives to Obamacare...let us hear out.
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Re: Alternative to Obamacare
by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:13 pm
1. Repeal Medicaid
2. Tax breaks for top 2%
3. Tax breaks for insurance companies, proportionate to premium increases. in other words companies with higher premiums enjoy bigger tax cuts.
4. Tax breaks for top 2%
5. Tax breaks for Hospitals
6. Tax breaks for top 2%
7. Go to war
8. Tax breaks for top 2%
9. Privatize VA health care
10.All of the above will create millions of jobs so top 2% deserves another round of tax break.
2. Tax breaks for top 2%
3. Tax breaks for insurance companies, proportionate to premium increases. in other words companies with higher premiums enjoy bigger tax cuts.
4. Tax breaks for top 2%
5. Tax breaks for Hospitals
6. Tax breaks for top 2%
7. Go to war
8. Tax breaks for top 2%
9. Privatize VA health care
10.All of the above will create millions of jobs so top 2% deserves another round of tax break.
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Re: Alternative to Obamacare
by Hellsangel Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:20 pm
How about getting your Messiah to address the big elephant in the room?confuzzled dude wrote:1. Repeal Medicaid
2. Tax breaks for top 2%
3. Tax breaks for insurance companies, proportionate to premium increases. in other words companies with higher premiums enjoy bigger tax cuts.
4. Tax breaks for top 2%
5. Tax breaks for Hospitals
6. Tax breaks for top 2%
7. Go to war
8. Tax breaks for top 2%
9. Privatize VA health care
10.All of the above will create millions of jobs so top 2% deserves another round of tax break.
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Re: Alternative to Obamacare
by confuzzled dude Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:27 am
Here are the key points in the conservative alternative, as summarized by the Associated Press, along with Levitt’s take on them:
1) “Individuals who purchase coverage approved for sale in their state could claim a deduction of $7,500 against their income and payroll taxes, regardless of the cost of the insurance. Families could deduct $20,000.” The trouble with this, Leavitt says, is that deductions disproportionately benefit the rich. By contrast, Levitt notes, Obamacare gives low income folks subsidies in the form of tax credits, which disproportionately benefit the poor.
2) The conservative alternative includes a “commitment of $25 billion over 10 years to defray the cost of coverage for high-risk patients.” This is a reference to “high risk pools” to cover those with preexisting conditions. Levitt says this would, in fact, provide protection for some with preexisting conditions, but it would be “much more limited” than Obamacare’s protections. Ultimately that isn’t nearly enough money to fix the problem when compared to Obamacare’s subsidies. Obamcare also places stricter limits on industry discrimination to “make insurance more accessible to people who are sick” and to “make insurance pricing more uniform,” Levitt says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/09/18/the-conservative-alternative-to-obamacare-isnt-an-alternative-to-obamacare/
1) “Individuals who purchase coverage approved for sale in their state could claim a deduction of $7,500 against their income and payroll taxes, regardless of the cost of the insurance. Families could deduct $20,000.” The trouble with this, Leavitt says, is that deductions disproportionately benefit the rich. By contrast, Levitt notes, Obamacare gives low income folks subsidies in the form of tax credits, which disproportionately benefit the poor.
2) The conservative alternative includes a “commitment of $25 billion over 10 years to defray the cost of coverage for high-risk patients.” This is a reference to “high risk pools” to cover those with preexisting conditions. Levitt says this would, in fact, provide protection for some with preexisting conditions, but it would be “much more limited” than Obamacare’s protections. Ultimately that isn’t nearly enough money to fix the problem when compared to Obamacare’s subsidies. Obamcare also places stricter limits on industry discrimination to “make insurance more accessible to people who are sick” and to “make insurance pricing more uniform,” Levitt says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/09/18/the-conservative-alternative-to-obamacare-isnt-an-alternative-to-obamacare/
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Re: Alternative to Obamacare
by truthbetold Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:16 am
Alt: limited government. fend for yourself.
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Re: Alternative to Obamacare
by Hellsangel Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:51 am
Obamacare - Now covering vet care. No, not veteran care, veterinarian care:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/21/colorado-man-informed-his-dog-has-successfully-signed-up-for-obamacare/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/21/colorado-man-informed-his-dog-has-successfully-signed-up-for-obamacare/
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