Pakistan’s Tyranny of Blasphemy

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/opinion/pakistans-tyranny-of-blasphemy.html?smid=fb-share&_r=1

Apparently the Print of edition of NYT in Pakistan blacked out this article

RawEmotions,

Should Indians particularly Hindus worry about the blasphemy laws in Pakistan?

I think even if Pakistanis get rid of Islamic extremism within their borders, they still hate Hindus. They have been brought up to do so. I think Indians should focus on strengthening their military and prevent any more Kargils.

Rishi wrote:RawEmotions,

Should Indians particularly Hindus worry about the blasphemy laws in Pakistan?

I think even if Pakistanis get rid of Islamic extremism within their borders, they still hate Hindus. They have been brought up to do so. I think Indians should focus on strengthening their military and prevent any more Kargils.  

I agree, but that is a simplistic view point, and that is not the reason why we should worry about Pakistan.

Pakistani hatred is so wide spread because of three reasons, 
a) a warped education system that spews venom against Hindus , secularism and India, 
b) an Islamic Supremacist ideology that is taught to young Pakistanis,
c) Incorrect history that teaches them that Pakistan actually was the full subcontinent, 
   because Islamic invaders had at one point of time conquered entire India (which is incorrect)

The primary purpose of reading these articles, is for India to learn about the dangers of Political Islam, since history books in India have whitewashed the sins of Islamic invaders.

Indian Muslim leadership is Political Islamist much like their counterparts in Pakistan. Parts of the Deobandi and Barelvi ideology (supposedly moderate) that is followed by majority of the Indian Muslims, still retain aspects of (b) and possibly even (c), with Indian Muslims crowned as legitimate rulers of entire India.

If you look at education, bulk of the Madrassas in India follow Pakistani style Madrassa education.  

So the incidents we see here, are the kind of incidents we are likely to see in areas where there are substantial Muslim presence in India, and are likely to happen in many parts of India in say 10 to 20 years from  now. It is for this reason that people should get to know things like this incident and be warned. Ideally the media should do all this work. But they do nothing and in fact censor such activities when it happens in Assam,WB, Kerala or J&K. The apologists whitewash such crimes and do not want to talk about the all pervading Islamic Supremacist doctrine that is the root cause, for the crimes committed in the name of Political Islam.

Political Islam is a clear and present danger to India's future. Indian Muslims and all secular citizens should oppose it in force. But Indian Muslims do not do so, because completely opposing it goes against Deobandi or Barelvi ideology. Also, taking on the Political Islamist leadership is difficult, given the fact that the extremist books/scriptures have some sections that condone and even support such acts. So anybody that dares to do so, is painted as opposing the faith of Islam itsef.

If Indian Muslims also support true secularism in heart and spirit, then they themselves will resist the Political islamists (as in Turkey) and Hindus/Sikhs/Christians/Buddhists/Ahmediyas/Bohras/Parsis have nothing to worry. Alas, that is not happening. The power of the extremist book leaves ordinary Muslims tongue tied, when the Muslims Political Islamist leadership in India go about their nefarious activities.

The long term Solution is for  Indian Muslims to come out in numbers and distinguish themselves from Political Islamists, and separate the faith of Islam from Political Islam. But I am not sure whether this will happen in India, given the fact that Political Islamists use violence to suppress anybody with an opposing view point. It needs conviction and only a true Islamic Scholar who can justify secularism as permissible in Islamic doctrine can win. Only then can he ensure that even areas with considerable Muslim presence remains secular in letter and spirit.

rawemotions wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/opinion/pakistans-tyranny-of-blasphemy.html?smid=fb-share&_r=1

Apparently the Print of edition of NYT in Pakistan blacked out this article

Rawji, don't waste your time complaining about Pakistan's blasphemy laws; your complaints won't change anything in Pakistan. They will, however, have some effect on how the world perceives India in relation to Pakistan. 

Have you not heard the hackneyed phrase "India's rival, Pakistan" in the western media? Do you really think that Pakistan, a failed Islamic "republic," is a worthy rival to India?

When you complain about Pakistan in order to portray it negatively in matters that don't concern Indians, you also propagate false comparisons between the two countries that are detrimental to India.

You might use your considerable, raw emotional (and physical) energies to encourage India to bring about the changes that will transform the nation into the economic powerhouse that it deserves to be.

swapna wrote:

rawemotions wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/opinion/pakistans-tyranny-of-blasphemy.html?smid=fb-share&_r=1

Apparently the Print of edition of NYT in Pakistan blacked out this article

Rawji, don't waste your time complaining about Pakistan's blasphemy laws; your complaints won't change anything in Pakistan. They will, however, have some effect on how the world perceives India in relation to Pakistan. 

Have you not heard the hackneyed phrase "India's rival, Pakistan" in the western media? Do you really think that Pakistan, a failed Islamic "republic," is a worthy rival to India?

When you complain about Pakistan in order to portray it negatively in matters that don't concern Indians, you also propagate false comparisons between the two countries that are detrimental to India.

You might use your considerable, raw emotional (and physical) energies to encourage India to bring about the changes that will transform the nation into the economic powerhouse that it deserves to be.

It is like saying that US is talking about activities of Boko Haram in Nigeria , and by doing so US is comparing itself with Nigeria. That is a foolish argument. 

Activities of Political Islamists the world over need to be brought to attention, irrespective of where they are. It so happens the most virulent of those are in Pakistan. A few are also present in India, and are self appointed leaders of Indian Muslims. The general public are getting hoodwinked by these folks, ironically in the name of secularism, and they do not understand the real intentions of the Political Islamists. So to learn how these folks behave when they are close to a majority, all we have to do is look at  Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Maldives etc.. So this post is about what could happen in India at some point on its future. Every post about activities of Political Islam is connected to India. It so happens that this incident of Political Islamic activity is in Pakistan. Could have been any other country.

In fact I had been arguing specifically that Pakistan should not be compared to India, in old Sulekha forums. That country has gone too far down the drain, to merit any sort of comparison with India.