Fellow tinnitus sufferers

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:20 pm

There are a number of apps that generate background noise to help you sleep. I've been trying a number of them with decent success.

by FluteHolder Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:55 pm

Typical western approach not trying to figure out the reason but just to manage it.

Reduce toxins in your food/body/environment, it goes away. I had a very mild issue of it now it is gone completely just by eating fresh fruits/kind of cleansing/detoxing the system.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:15 am

FluteHolder wrote:Typical western approach not trying to figure out the reason but just to manage it.

Reduce toxins in your food/body/environment, it goes away. I had a very mild issue of it now it is gone completely just by eating fresh fruits/kind of cleansing/detoxing the system.

what according to non western approach is the reason one gets tinnitus? and why did you assume fresh fruits are not part of my diet?

by FluteHolder Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:32 am

You need more videos. Let me start with this one.

by bw Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:51 am

what is "sularchi'?

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:52 am

i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

by Maria S Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:02 am

Max,

I presume that it can be quite distressing at times.

And I assume that you have had medical evaluations done by specialists- ENT, esp. an Otolaryngologist. If the cause is identified, minimizing it is possible (curing would be ideal). However, it is sometimes difficult to determine the cause or treat for that matter.

As you mention, noise suppression measures are helpful. Getting good sleep, taking B complex, zinc and magnesium supplements, certain sea salts and cutting back on some consumptions, like coffee, tea, and yes, alchohol..and stress management techniques can be effective as well.

Have heard of other simple natural measures..using a few drops of sesame oil, basil leaves, onion and garlic extracts (just try one or two drops and see..be cautious, although- they are basically harmless).

Hope you find some long-term relief and take care.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:05 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

Treatment :-

1) Ghrutapana: Consumption of Medicated Ghee.
2) Rasayana (Rejuvenation): Cow’s milk + Cow’s Ghee
3) Karnapoorana (explained later): Medicated ear drops.
4) Snehavirechana: Purgation with the help of medicated ghee.

Things to be avoided:

1) Excessive talking.
2) Head bath.
3) Excessive Exercise
4) Excessive sexual intercourse.

http://www.ayurveda-portal.de/aktuelle-beitraege/104/1194-tinnitus-a-ayurved.html#.VA7srWK9KSM

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:08 am

Maria S wrote:Max,

I presume that it can be quite distressing at times.

And I assume that you have had medical evaluations done by specialists- ENT, esp. an Otolaryngologist. If the cause is identified, minimizing it is possible (curing would be ideal). However, it is sometimes difficult to determine the cause or treat for that matter.

As you mention, noise suppression measures are helpful. Getting good sleep, taking B complex, zinc and magnesium supplements, certain sea salts and cutting back on some consumptions, like coffee, tea, and yes, alchohol..and stress management techniques can be effective as well.

Have heard of other simple natural measures..using a few drops of sesame oil, basil leaves, onion and garlic extracts (just try one or two drops and see..be cautious, although- they are basically harmless).

Hope you find some long-term relief and take care.

yes maria, i have had it evaluated and i have followed their suggestions like cutting back significantly on alcohol (i rarely drink these days. once a month is plenty), cutting back on salt, avoiding pain medications as much as possible, exercising regularly. stress, coffee and tea -- haven't done much about that. but they haven't found any specific causes or triggers. i can do something about coffee and tea i suppose. most days it's fine, like an old ever present comforting friend that i'll probably miss if it goes away. but on some days, it gets unbearably loud and distressing. the last couple of days haven't been fun and without the iphone apps, it's likely i wouldn't have gotten a wink of sleep.

by Maria S Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:12 am

Oh, hope you can find some way to minimize it, and feel better soon.

take care.

by southindian Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:40 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:There are a number of apps that generate background noise to help you sleep. I've been trying a number of them with decent success.

I read posts on SuCH. Posts here help me sleep within a minute.

by b_A Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:32 am

Do you use earbuds or earphones to listen to music all the time? Try to avoid them for some time and see if it improves the situation. If they are causing the problem, then it is time to look for alternatives.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:23 am

Funny how I myself had it more last couple of days. Sounded like a backyard full of crickets. However, I told myself that that's because I had been talking about it for two days, and hence noticing it more. Then I changed sides 2-3 times. Discovered it's louder when I am sleeping on my left side with right ear exposed. So, slept on my right side (I can't sleep on my back, head hurts). Problem with sleeping on my right is that is I face my windows then, and the light hurts my eyes (yeah I have a lot of issues). So I took a soft t-shirt, and covered both my eyes and ears with it. The cushion/sound it created made me forget about the crickets.

Let's see.

I drink black tea 2-3 times a day, also 1 cup minimum each of green tea and chamomile tea.

I don't drink alcohol much. Maybe once a month.

Coffee maybe twice a week.

My salt intake isn't that high either.

I do take multi vitamins that have all those things. I have to coz I have serious anemia issues. So I take iron pills, and for it to absorb better I take multivitamins with it.

I keep headphones on pretty much all day. At work as well as at home. These days I don't know how to sit at work, and not have headphones on, unless my ears start hurting real bad as the headphones press the ears on my glasses. Same at home. I have them on even if I am not playing anything. Helps muffle the noises created by the 3 kids.

But if they are not on my ears, they are hanging down my neck and I raise the volume. Is one side effect of tinnitus always wanting some other sound on?

I have not consulted anyone for this. I am looking forward to wearing hearing aids, that funnily amplifies the cricket sound. Old age isn't gonna be fun, I suppose.

M, details on "using a few drops of sesame oil, basil leaves, onion and garlic extracts (just try one or two drops and see" please.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:32 am

i don't use headphones. BK - try these two iphone apps - sleep pillow, relax melodies.

on the second app, i use a combination of rain, river, a brook, forest sounds (yes crickets!), and monks chanting (all these sounds together) at a low volume. it overcomes the tinnitus and lulls me to sleep on the days it's very loud. on most days the tinnitus itself lulls me to sleep.

i too have one sided tinnitus - the left. the writeup on the mayo clinic website says one sided tinnitus could be due to a benign tumor. should probably bring that up at the next physical.

by smArtha Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:40 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

http://ayurveda-foryou.com/treat/tinnitus.html

The two page url above seems to have some good information from Ayurveda perspective.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:41 am

smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

http://ayurveda-foryou.com/treat/tinnitus.html

The two page url above seems to have some good information from Ayurveda perspective.

i also liked this:

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ayurvedic_Management_of_Tinnitus_Karna_nada.html

by michelle2 Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:46 am

Rashmun wrote:

Things to be avoided:

1) Excessive talking.

...

hahaha! i wonder if that's the reason why the most frequent poster here - no, not uppili, but another aunty - is experiencing this problem.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:47 am

thanks smArtha and rashmun. will take a look.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:49 am

michelle2 wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Things to be avoided:

1) Excessive talking.

...

hahaha! i wonder if that's the reason why the most frequent poster here - no, not uppili, but another aunty - is experiencing this problem.

hahaha. very funny.

by confuzzled dude Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:49 am

smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

http://ayurveda-foryou.com/treat/tinnitus.html

The two page url above seems to have some good information from Ayurveda perspective.

Do these solutions work, did any of you have tried? or the links are provided to feel good about ancient India, "maa tAtalu nEtulu tAgAru maa mUtulu vAsana choodandi" kind.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:55 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

http://ayurveda-foryou.com/treat/tinnitus.html

The two page url above seems to have some good information from Ayurveda perspective.
Do these solutions work, did any of you have tried? or the links are provided to feel good about ancient India, "maa tAtalu nEtulu tAgAru maa mUtulu vAsana choodandi" kind.

Yeah. Counter that CD. Find similar Taabeez or raakh for treating tinnitus. You can do it!

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:56 am

CD: i believe ayurveda and siddha are often based on sound empirical evidence. they don't always work, but often work well. i'll give you a couple of examples -- the neti pot method of irrigating your nasal passages for blocked nostrils from colds during allergy season was invented by ayurvedists. the kizhAnelli plant which was recommended by a siddha doctor cured someone i am very close to of a severe hepatits B infection and saved his life after mainstream doctors had given up on him. he was near death at the time. and i know of more cases of hep B cured by kizhAnelli. i wouldn't knock ancient indian medicine. these guys experimented and figured out a lot of things that western medicine is also starting to embrace.

here is a webMD page on kizhAnelli:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-441-kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29.aspx?activeingredientid=441&activeingredientname=kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29

by smArtha Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:05 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:

Do these solutions work, did any of you have tried? or the links are provided to feel good about ancient India, "maa tAtalu nEtulu tAgAru maa mUtulu vAsana choodandi" kind.

I had seen AyurvEdic treatments work or provide relief in other areas of health/well-being for myself, family and friends. Especially when it deals with chronic ailments. And then the links are provided because Max explicitly asked for Siddha/Ayurvedic take. Please note that this was not aimed at entertaining 'mA mohammed moham kadigAdu, mA mullAh mAshaAllah annAdu' folks.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:06 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:CD: i believe ayurveda and siddha are often based on sound empirical evidence. they don't always work, but often work well. i'll give you a couple of examples -- the neti pot method of irrigating your nasal passages for blocked nostrils from colds during allergy season was invented by ayurvedists. the kizhAnelli plant which was recommended by a siddha doctor cured someone i am very close to of a severe hepatits B infection and saved his life after mainstream doctors had given up on him. he was near death at the time. and i know of more cases of hep B cured by kizhAnelli. i wouldn't knock ancient indian medicine. these guys experimented and figured out a lot of things that western medicine is also starting to embrace.

here is a webMD page on kizhAnelli:
[url=http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-441-kizha nelli %28chanca]http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-441-kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29.aspx?activeingredientid=441&activeingredientname=kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29[/url]

I saw an ayurvedic jungle dude treating a baby of enlarged liver when docs had given up on her and given # of days before she died. I saw him treating her infront of my eyes. Was unbelievable. He also treated her older brother of tear duct issue, but that's something I think could have been treated on its own.

Another dude handed me some ayurvedic pills to treat huge acidity issues I had when I was a teen. I didn't go to him for that. He was some 'face reader' and came to our house for timepass. Well, many things he said was correct. Looks like he was more of an ayurvedic heeler than a face reader, coz all he did was check our pulses for 10-15 minutes. Anyway, he checked my pulse and said I have acidity issue, but I didn't confirm it to him. He said such issues can lead me to be sterile in future. So I took his meds. Dunno why he gave them to me for free, maybe he thought he will convince my dad to give him 1 quintal of rice that he asked for later. Dad told him to get going (he didn't know I had been given the meds). It looked and smelled like goat poop, and I am sure must have tasted like that too, coz the taste was horrible. Who knows if it was indeed goat poop! Anyway, I ate the 1-week course, and my acidity issues were gone, but when I told my siblings, they piled up on me for being so stupid and eating anything that anyone gives.

by confuzzled dude Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:19 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:CD: i believe ayurveda and siddha are often based on sound empirical evidence. they don't always work, but often work well. i'll give you a couple of examples -- the neti pot method of irrigating your nasal passages for blocked nostrils from colds during allergy season was invented by ayurvedists. the kizhAnelli plant which was recommended by a siddha doctor cured someone i am very close to of a severe hepatits B infection and saved his life after mainstream doctors had given up on him. he was near death at the time. and i know of more cases of hep B cured by kizhAnelli. i wouldn't knock ancient indian medicine. these guys experimented and figured out a lot of things that western medicine is also starting to embrace.

here is a webMD page on kizhAnelli:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-441-kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29.aspx?activeingredientid=441&activeingredientname=kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29

Max, I've no doubt Ayurveda has its own place but my question was to the guys giving suggestions whether they are qualified ayurvedic doctors or have used that specific medicine.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:01 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:CD: i believe ayurveda and siddha are often based on sound empirical evidence. they don't always work, but often work well. i'll give you a couple of examples -- the neti pot method of irrigating your nasal passages for blocked nostrils from colds during allergy season was invented by ayurvedists. the kizhAnelli plant which was recommended by a siddha doctor cured someone i am very close to of a severe hepatits B infection and saved his life after mainstream doctors had given up on him. he was near death at the time. and i know of more cases of hep B cured by kizhAnelli. i wouldn't knock ancient indian medicine. these guys experimented and figured out a lot of things that western medicine is also starting to embrace.

here is a webMD page on kizhAnelli:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-441-kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29.aspx?activeingredientid=441&activeingredientname=kizha%20nelli%20%28chanca%20piedra%29

Med schools have included a course on "Alternative medicines" in their curriculum so that the Money Docs become aware of other possibilities. Washington State recognizes Ayurvedic doctors and many insurance programs there cover the treatments.

by confuzzled dude Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:10 pm

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i suppose i neither have your belief in godmen like sadhguru, nor bw's humorous outlook to make light of the whole thing. he only ends up vexing me. i asked you a simple q really. your choices are to either give me an answer or say that you don't know. it's not nice to make me watch a 11 min rambling video which is pointless.

i wonder if ayurveda or siddha medicine has looked into tinnitus.

http://ayurveda-foryou.com/treat/tinnitus.html

The two page url above seems to have some good information from Ayurveda perspective.
Do these solutions work, did any of you have tried? or the links are provided to feel good about ancient India, "maa tAtalu nEtulu tAgAru maa mUtulu vAsana choodandi" kind.
Yeah. Counter that CD. Find similar Taabeez or raakh for treating tinnitus. You can do it!

BK, we need to be able to compartmentalize our discussions, my disgust over hyping ancient India's achievements has got nothing to do with Islam.

by Guest Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:13 pm

maghzu, i have been reading your tinnitus suffering for the last many years. is it a nuisance enough that you wish you try medications for or you wish to continue drinking green tea? curious. if former then i can give anecdotal advice *subject to market risks*.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:18 pm

madrasi_idiot wrote:maghzu, i have been reading your tinnitus suffering for the last many years. is it a nuisance enough that you wish you try medications for or you wish to continue drinking green tea? curious. if former then i can give anecdotal advice *subject to market risks*.

i am willing to try medications if they have been shown to be effective. on the really bad days, i have a foreboding that this is going to get much worse as i age. the recent few days have not been kind. ayurveda, siddha, western medicine or a combination thereof. the only thing that i am unwilling to try is homeopathy.

by goodcitizn Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:25 pm

Max, is it the ringing in your ear that causes you difficulty? I don't understand this ailment since I don't have any experience with it. Does it happen during the day when you work or only at night?

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:31 pm

goodcitizn wrote:Max, is it the ringing in your ear that causes you difficulty? I don't understand this ailment since I don't have any experience with it. Does it happen during the day when you work or only at night?

24x7 crickets in my left ear. varying volumes. lower during the day, louder at night when there's no background noise. most days i can distract myself with work, exercise, listening to music, posting on SUCH. some days (thankfully occasional as of now), nothing helps and it's rotten.

by goodcitizn Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:47 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:Max, is it the ringing in your ear that causes you difficulty? I don't understand this ailment since I don't have any experience with it. Does it happen during the day when you work or only at night?

24x7 crickets in my left ear. varying volumes. lower during the day, louder at night when there's no background noise. most days i can distract myself with work, exercise, listening to music, posting on SUCH. some days (thankfully occasional as of now), nothing helps and it's rotten.

Sounds terrible, no pun intended. Hope you find a permanent cure for it.

by bw Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:27 pm

i had no idea what tinnitus was - just watched this documentary. hope you find some relief, max.

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:53 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
madrasi_idiot wrote:maghzu, i have been reading your tinnitus suffering for the last many years. is it a nuisance enough that you wish you try medications for or you wish to continue drinking green tea? curious. if former then i can give anecdotal advice *subject to market risks*.

i am willing to try medications if they have been shown to be effective. on the really bad days, i have a foreboding that this is going to get much worse as i age. the recent few days have not been kind. ayurveda, siddha, western medicine or a combination thereof. the only thing that i am unwilling to try is homeopathy.

max, your approach is correct. barring homeopathy, it's worth trying the other alternative therapies you have listed.

see this link (if you haven't already): [url=http://www.ata.org/sites/ata.org/files/pdf/Pharmacological_Treatments_for_Tinnitus_New_and_Old_by_Salvi_Lobarinas_Wen 2009.pdf]NIH[/url]

if you go for medication, it would be a trial and error approach for there is no silver bullet yet for tinnitus but chances are good that one of the medicines might work for you. if i were you i would try melatonin first (it's in the list in the link) because it is safe and OTC. sleep disorder affects tinnitus and/or vice versa and melatonin restores the cardiac rhythm.

which med. you wish to try next would be best decided by you in consultation with your doc.

i have a sneaky suspicion that benzodiazepines might bring you instant relief (they are all listed in the link and ending with "am" like alprazolam). an overwhelming majority of folks who abruptly quit benzos develop tinnitus -- so there is a relation between tinnitus and gaba activity i feel. i have also revised my opinions of benzos. i am not convinced that all people who abruptly quit benzos (after long term use) develop horrendous withdrawals like me (i have encountered 2 people in my extended family who quit from high doses after long term use without withdrawals). also, only a small minority develop tolerance (necessitating higher doses over a period). i have been on a low dose of a benzo for decades without developing tolerance and i have countless friends who are in the same boat as me. i do not intend to quit for quitting it is too painful. anyway, it is better we talk about benzos only after you decide to give them a shot (there are other more effective meds. in the list that, IMO, you should try first). trying a benzo for a few days won't hurt. it should bring you instant relief. if it doesn't, case closed. if it does -- give me a shout.

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:15 am

typo: circadian rhythm and nor cardiac rhythm above

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:50 am

anecdotal but relevant: xanax (alprazolam) for tinnitus http://www.drugs.com/comments/alprazolam/for-tinnitus.html

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:57 am

xanax has known side effects. However, melatonin has side effects too, no? I would say try those herbal therapies, but be aware that many of those ayurvedic things have questionable metal contents/amounts in them.

I have been investigating my issue since yesterday, as in bothering others if they can hear the same sounds as me. I can't do that at work, so I go to some other location and observe again. So far, this is what I have learned.

I think I do get off periods.
I have a lot of sinus issues coz of my allergies. maybe the two are related.
It seems to be more in my right ear, but it's in the left ear too. However, my right ear is also hurting lately, so it might be some other issue going on in there.
It's not the sound of crickets (i was mixing it up with real sound of crickets outside), but it's a lower buzzing sound, like we used to hear when tubelights back home would go bad. Had to harass XH and kids a lot last night to differentiate the sounds. They were mighty confused what I am trying to do as lately I have also been complaining of rats/squirrel sounds in my attic.
So far, the sound is mild.
It comes randomly, atleast that's how it seems so far, like when I am driving, or sometimes at work or home. But doesn't last very long, or maybe I get distracted.

Older sibs had it the same way when they were my age. It has progressed for them. If genes are to be trusted, I am hoping it will stay milder for me. Let's see. But a part of me tells me that maybe I should not think about it too much until it's in my face.

by garam_kuta Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:10 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:xanax has known side effects. However, melatonin has side effects too, no? I would say try those herbal therapies, but be aware that many of those ayurvedic things have questionable metal contents/amounts in them.

I have been investigating my issue since yesterday, as in bothering others if they can hear the same sounds as me. I can't do that at work, so I go to some other location and observe again. So far, this is what I have learned.

I think I do get off periods.
I have a lot of sinus issues coz of my allergies. maybe the two are related.
It seems to be more in my right ear, but it's in the left ear too. However, my right ear is also hurting lately, so it might be some other issue going on in there.
It's not the sound of crickets (i was mixing it up with real sound of crickets outside), but it's a lower buzzing sound, like we used to hear when tubelights back home would go bad. Had to harass XH and kids a lot last night to differentiate the sounds. They were mighty confused what I am trying to do as lately I have also been complaining of rats/squirrel sounds in my attic.
So far, the sound is mild.
It comes randomly, atleast that's how it seems so far, like when I am driving, or sometimes at work or home. But doesn't last very long, or maybe I get distracted.

Older sibs had it the same way when they were my age. It has progressed for them. If genes are to be trusted, I am hoping it will stay milder for me. Let's see. But a part of me tells me that maybe I should not think about it too much until it's in my face.

just like the floaters/cobwebs in the eyes - shouldn't focus too much on it. ah no pun intended!

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:21 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:xanax has known side effects. However, melatonin has side effects too, no? I would say try those herbal therapies, but be aware that many of those ayurvedic things have questionable metal contents/amounts in them.

xanax, in low does, doses not have side effects any more than your normal BP/anti-diabetes/anti-cholesterol medicine does. same for melatonin i would suspect but may be not for it is a natural extract -- short answer is i don't know. the only trouble with xanax is that it has a dependency syndrome and a withdrawal syndrome. if you start it you can't stop. if you become tolerant then god help you. a small minority develop tolerance and i am not convinced all suffer a withdrawal syndrome (beyond the minor withdrawals).

edit. you raised a good point. i almost started ayurvedic medicine upon the insistence of a relative till i discovered it has metal in it -- toxic levels. avoid ayurvedic medicine!

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:36 am

add to above: dependency and withdrawal symptom mean the same thing. you become dependent because one of the symptoms of withdrawal is the return of the symptom for which you were taking xanax with a double force plus a host of other symptoms.

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:07 am

m_i -- thanks for the links and the suggestions. at this point, i am able to manage my condition with background sounds and distracting myself with music and have a nearly normal level of functionality about 85% of the time. it's those maybe two days a month on average when it gets difficult. i am going to explore your suggestions with my doctor if things get worse than they are now, but i am hoping i won't have to resort to psycho-pharmacological medications if i can help it. by ayurveda i meant directly ingesting some tried and true herbs. i didn't quite have processed pills in mind. like BK and you have said, that is a little scary because i am not sure how well regulated that industry is.

i have come to accept that despite our best efforts in watching our diets, exercising etc. there is a high likelihood of developing something that will give us cause for concern as we age. this is the way of humankind. this is my cross to bear, and i am thankful that so far it hasn't been anything worse.

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:10 am

some more promising information i unearthed yesterday:

http://www.nih.gov/news/health/mar2014/nidcd-06.htm

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:12 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:xanax has known side effects. However, melatonin has side effects too, no? I would say try those herbal therapies, but be aware that many of those ayurvedic things have questionable metal contents/amounts in them.

I have been investigating my issue since yesterday, as in bothering others if they can hear the same sounds as me. I can't do that at work, so I go to some other location and observe again. So far, this is what I have learned.

I think I do get off periods.
I have a lot of sinus issues coz of my allergies. maybe the two are related.
It seems to be more in my right ear, but it's in the left ear too. However, my right ear is also hurting lately, so it might be some other issue going on in there.
It's not the sound of crickets (i was mixing it up with real sound of crickets outside), but it's a lower buzzing sound, like we used to hear when tubelights back home would go bad. Had to harass XH and kids a lot last night to differentiate the sounds. They were mighty confused what I am trying to do as lately I have also been complaining of rats/squirrel sounds in my attic.
So far, the sound is mild.
It comes randomly, atleast that's how it seems so far, like when I am driving, or sometimes at work or home. But doesn't last very long, or maybe I get distracted.

Older sibs had it the same way when they were my age. It has progressed for them. If genes are to be trusted, I am hoping it will stay milder for me. Let's see. But a part of me tells me that maybe I should not think about it too much until it's in my face.

BK if i pay close attention to my sounds (and i probably shouldn't), i have one constant frequency continuous sound somewhat like the hum of some of those old tubelights in india that you mentioned in my left ear, and then crickets somewhere in the middle between the two ears.

by Seva Lamberdar Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:15 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:Typical western approach not trying to figure out the reason but just to manage it.

Reduce toxins in your food/body/environment, it goes away. I had a very mild issue of it now it is gone completely just by eating fresh fruits/kind of cleansing/detoxing the system.

what according to non western approach is the reason one gets tinnitus? and why did you assume fresh fruits are not part of my diet?

Can't be too sure of fresh fruits in food these days. Yesterday I bought some grapes from a store. They have a taste / smell of sewer (probably were grown using the sewer water).

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:27 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
i have come to accept that despite our best efforts in watching our diets, exercising etc. there is a high likelihood of developing something that will give us cause for concern as we age. this is the way of humankind. this is my cross to bear, and i am thankful that so far it hasn't been anything worse.

very very very well said. i like this and i will copy and paste it in my diary. it echoes the thoughts of a man in a forum that i occasionally participate in. he wrote this, reminiscing his state and thoughts from earlier, after he had recovered from his abrupt benzo withdrawal (2 years of secluded life -- he retired from his job):

My resentment built until one day it reached a climax. “Life’s not a vacation, you know,” I heard myself think. “Something happens to everybody—this is what happened to you. Some people win the lottery, others contract cancer or get hit by a bus. This addiction to benzos is what happened to you. You’re going to have to accept that. Being pissed at the world is a waste of energy and it’s not helping you, so get over it.”

i have decided to make peace with my benzo -- i can't take a 3/4 year holiday to taper and there is no guarantee that at the end of the taper i will have a soft landing. it does not hurt me if i continue taking it. what used to hurt me i have stopped -- alcohol and ssris. rest i leave to god. have trust in god. there is an almighty. i hope you never need meds. but if you ever do, know that there IS help out there in allopathy. next year we shall have a tinnitus bucket challenge. Smile

bye (to forums) for now.

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:40 am

Glad to know you quit alcohol.

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:56 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Glad to know you quit alcohol.

i was in a rehab for 15 days in hyderabad last april. the owner was a friend of my cousin; so he did not stop my benzo (the main reason why i was avoiding rehab). i had no withdrawals save disturbed sleep for a month, after which everything evened out. so, every person reacts differently! currently i am helping a school friend undergo a kidney transplant in kolkata. Razz

i am THE EXPERT now. Razz

he resides in delhi. i also donated 3 lacs to a local foundation for the visually impaired here last week (the foundation is run by another school friend). it's important to announce the good one is doing (while continuing to do bad). Razz

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:59 am

madrasi_idiot wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
i have come to accept that despite our best efforts in watching our diets, exercising etc. there is a high likelihood of developing something that will give us cause for concern as we age. this is the way of humankind. this is my cross to bear, and i am thankful that so far it hasn't been anything worse.

very very very well said. i like this and i will copy and paste it in my diary. it echoes the thoughts of a man in a forum that i occasionally participate in.

Yeah, if one has a chronic problem and if there are no solutions for it, the best way to deal with it is to accept it as a part of your life and learn to live with it. I have chronic neck issues. That's what my doc told me, 'accept it as a part of you, learn to manage it, live with it and move on.'

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:01 am

madrasi_idiot wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Glad to know you quit alcohol.

i was in a rehab for 15 days in hyderabad last april. the owner was a friend of my cousin; so he did not stop my benzo (the main reason why i was avoiding rehab). i had no withdrawals save disturbed sleep for a month, after which everything evened out. so, every person reacts differently! currently i am helping a school friend undergo a kidney transplant in kolkata. i am THE EXPERT now. he resides in delhi. i also donated 3 lacs to a local foundation for the visually impaired here last week. it's important to announce the good one is doing (while continuing to do bad).

Good going, madsi! Smile

by Guest Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:08 am

Kinnera wrote:
madrasi_idiot wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Glad to know you quit alcohol.

i was in a rehab for 15 days in hyderabad last april. the owner was a friend of my cousin; so he did not stop my benzo (the main reason why i was avoiding rehab). i had no withdrawals save disturbed sleep for a month, after which everything evened out. so, every person reacts differently! currently i am helping a school friend undergo a kidney transplant in kolkata. i am THE EXPERT now. he resides in delhi. i also donated 3 lacs to a local foundation for the visually impaired here last week. it's important to announce the good one is doing (while continuing to do bad).
Good going, madsi!

texas much. Smile

hey, you know, next year september i too will have an empty nest. younger will be starting college! so i would have caught up with you. is older staying at home or has moved on? on another note, i found that the univ. of toronto accepts indian students based on their isc/cbse scores! and it's a top notch college! but i am not sending him abroad for undergrad. indian undergrad is as good i feel. he wants to study mechanical.

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