We have our own traditions - a Tamil woman

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

you haven't been to any non indian or non hindu festivals/feasts of your friends or colleagues? or wish them? or if they wish you (ignorantly), politely wish them back? or did you tell them to buzz off? 

forget seven's corelation to you. you are saying above, "regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?"

among group of friends, i assume, you will behave the same way? remember the context of OP. it was a group of friends. Not some mormon or jenovah's witness on your doorstep.

and kindly try to stick to the topic. first you start talking about carnatic music, then you write a paragraph of irrelevant people playing it. not making any real point except showcasing your useless (to the topic) knowledge.

the issue is NOT whether i have been to a christmas party, but the OP's expectation that the tamil woman she spoke to acknowledge her wishes. i may or may not choose to return christmas wishes. and btw, i may not have reacted the way seven's tamil acquaintance did, even if i did not celebrate ramanavami (which my family in fact does celebrate). that still doesn't excuse seven's whining.

incidentally many jews in the northeast US make an express point of telling people who wish them christmas that they don't celebrate christmas. entirely their prerogative.

the reason i brought up carnatic music and cultural reciprocity is because seven was making a broader whine about culture and cultural insularity (as best as i could make out her somewhat incoherent post).

Meghna Mathur wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

this was more about simple greetings and mere pot luck (I think). where there is feasting, it's a different type of mindset. music recital is a bigger commitment. My gujju friend teaches BN to little kids in her neighborhood. she doesn't think my culture their culture. She likes it, she does it. you think it, not sure if that's "true" open mindedness. seven has started thinking it now. That's what her point was in OP. 

talking about feasting, i remember reading here i think, that now a days BN personal type of concerts people keep samosa, etc to entice audience while it was not a norm before. So I mean... that's cultural openness right there, and in a way proves your point.

garam_kuta wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

ha ha ha the imposter hyphenator, like the senile demented sistah, is targeting women and looking for 'pun' dai.டேய்...நன்னா பார்த்து மழுமழுன்னு சரைச்சு விடப்போறியா?

Meghna Mathur wrote:
"serve samosa," not "keep "samosa."

swapna wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

ha ha ha the imposter hyphenator, like the senile demented sistah, is targeting women and looking for 'pun' dai.டேய்...நன்னா பார்த்து மழுமழுன்னு சரைச்சு விடப்போறியா?

ennadee kaamaakshi, don't you know that there's no such word as "nanna" in proper thamizh? the correct word is "nandraga"; "nanna" is a brahmin distortion of a good, thamizh word. 

if you don't quit saying "nanna," I'm gonna whip you with the soiled paavaadai that my thamizh brahmin classmate's niece used instead of tampons to stem her flow at the time of her "menses," as the boys of your tribe called that monthly occurrence.

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

you haven't been to any non indian or non hindu festivals/feasts of your friends or colleagues? or wish them? or if they wish you (ignorantly), politely wish them back? or did you tell them to buzz off? 

forget seven's corelation to you. you are saying above, "regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?"

among group of friends, i assume, you will behave the same way? remember the context of OP. it was a group of friends. Not some mormon or jenovah's witness on your doorstep.

and kindly try to stick to the topic. first you start talking about carnatic music, then you write a paragraph of irrelevant people playing it. not making any real point except showcasing your useless (to the topic) knowledge.

the issue is NOT whether i have been to a christmas party, but the OP's expectation that the tamil woman she spoke to acknowledge her wishes. i may or may not choose to return christmas wishes. and btw, i may not have reacted the way seven's tamil acquaintance did, even if i did not celebrate ramanavami (which my family in fact does celebrate). that still doesn't excuse seven's whining.

incidentally many jews in the northeast US make an express point of telling people who wish them christmas that they don't celebrate christmas. entirely their prerogative.

the reason i brought up carnatic music and cultural reciprocity is because seven was making a broader whine about culture and cultural insularity (as best as i could make out her somewhat incoherent post).

garam-kuta wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:
Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

you haven't been to any non indian or non hindu festivals/feasts of your friends or colleagues? or wish them? or if they wish you (ignorantly), politely wish them back? or did you tell them to buzz off? 

forget seven's corelation to you. you are saying above, "regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?"

among group of friends, i assume, you will behave the same way? remember the context of OP. it was a group of friends. Not some mormon or jenovah's witness on your doorstep.

and kindly try to stick to the topic. first you start talking about carnatic music, then you write a paragraph of irrelevant people playing it. not making any real point except showcasing your useless (to the topic) knowledge.

the issue is NOT whether i have been to a christmas party, but the OP's expectation that the tamil woman she spoke to acknowledge her wishes. i may or may not choose to return christmas wishes. and btw, i may not have reacted the way seven's tamil acquaintance did, even if i did not celebrate ramanavami (which my family in fact does celebrate). that still doesn't excuse seven's whining.

incidentally many jews in the northeast US make an express point of telling people who wish them christmas that they don't celebrate christmas. entirely their prerogative.

the reason i brought up carnatic music and cultural reciprocity is because seven was making a broader whine about culture and cultural insularity (as best as i could make out her somewhat incoherent post).

how do you rate seven's language skills?
-2 or -3 or (-2 to -3)?
even with typos and grammatical errors, if at least the thoughts are conveyed then a positive non-zero rating can be given.
otherwise, only negative.
same message to the other woman fuming over -2 or -3 or (-2 to -3).

Kris wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

>It *is* celebrated in TN as in presumably the rest of India. It is pretty uncool to make a statement like that regardless, even if she followed a different religion. It is as weird as making a point of not being a Christian at the office X-mas party. If someone does that, it is a safe bet that there is a chip on the shoulder and people do notice those things. Anyway, it is good that you find your own reaction worrisome. Thankfully, this type of personality is a rarity.

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

100 times:

she works in the u.s.
she works in the u.s.
she works in the u.s.
...

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

tamilnadu is not a person. "closed tamilnadus" doesn't make any sense.

i see that others have corrected you re TN and ramanavami. regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?

a broader point -- i will pick and choose aspects of your culture and art that i find interesting and reject what doesn't appeal to me. for example i love hindustani music (it's a good bet that i know more about it than the average northindian), but i detest the holi festival. i also have no interest in the stories of prem 

Meghna Mathur wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

i see that others have corrected you re TN and ramanavami. regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?

That woman saying, "we don't celebrate Ramanavami in Tamil Nadu; we have other festivals," seems to suggest she is a non-Hindu.

how do you celebrate it? if i remember correctly, we invite about 9 or more kids (is it girls?) from the neighborhood for a feast at home. i am usually never clear on what we do when, but this is what's coming to my mind. as per my habit, i assume a lot. so am guessing the op convo was, 'we don't celebrate it this way'.

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

seven wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

so you are denying tamils are culturally rigid and suggesting north indians are culturally closed?

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:
I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

irrelevant.

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

swapna wrote:seven, what part of india are you from?

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:
I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:
I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

that woman's behaviour is perfectly understandable. there is a long history of whining about southern indians by northpeepals; some people are annoyed by it, and express their annoyance. 

perhaps you should spend your time more productively by working for northpeepal's economic and social upliftment.

max has gone out of his way to show his love of northpeepal's music ever since the powerful charvakan started this forum and made.clear that he would oppose any criticism of northpeepals. you should appreciate max's openmindedness to your music.

southindian wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:
i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

that woman's behaviour is perfectly understandable. there is a long history of whining about southern indians by northpeepals; some people are annoyed by it, and express their annoyance. 

perhaps you should spend your time more productively by working for northpeepal's economic and social upliftment.

max has gone out of his way to show his love of northpeepal's music ever since the powerful charvakan started this forum and made.clear that he would oppose any criticism of northpeepals. you should appreciate max's openmindedness to your music.

Thomas,

Long history of whining never stops. Right? 

You northindian, Your whining on northindians hasn't stopped on this forum for the last decade?  Right?

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:
I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

southindian wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

Assholes here are ignoring dark ages of Christianity, tales from Africa and Australia (aboriginals) and Muslims onslaught on earth since Muhammad was born. 

These jackasses here won't even think of living close to Middle-East.

swapna wrote:

southindian wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:
i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

Assholes here are ignoring dark ages of Christianity, tales from Africa and Australia (aboriginals) and Muslims onslaught on earth since Muhammad was born. 

These jackasses here won't even think of living close to Middle-East.

you're not angry or upset, are you?

swapna wrote:

southindian wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people. That doesn't stop you from posting anti Hindu articles n painting Hindus as badder than Muslims n more violent. You stop doing that before you tell me to not project one woman's and Max's behavior onto all the Tamils.

that woman's behaviour is perfectly understandable. there is a long history of whining about southern indians by northpeepals; some people are annoyed by it, and express their annoyance. 

perhaps you should spend your time more productively by working for northpeepal's economic and social upliftment.

max has gone out of his way to show his love of northpeepal's music ever since the powerful charvakan started this forum and made.clear that he would oppose any criticism of northpeepals. you should appreciate max's openmindedness to your music.

Thomas,

Long history of whining never stops. Right? 

You northindian, Your whining on northindians hasn't stopped on this forum for the last decade?  Right?

this thread is a long, pathetic whine by seven about a southern indian. she appears to be in severe pain. help her.

what does "You northindian, Your whining hasn't stopped?" mean? is that a question? a statement? an accusation?

do you call yourself "southindian" as a strategy to aggrandize yourself?

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

seven wrote:
i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

harsh mander, then a serving i.a.s. officer, writes that he was "numbed with disgust and horror" by the murders of muslims in february and march, 2002, in naroda patiya and other parts of ahmedabad. 

he is writing about the horrors perpetrated by the people you "observed" to be "in general, and on average, peaceful and law-abiding." they were not muslims, sikhs, or christians.

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

harsh mander, then a serving i.a.s. officer, writes that he was "numbed with disgust and horror" by the murders of muslims in february and march, 2002, in naroda patiya and other parts of ahmedabad. 

he is writing about the horrors perpetrated by the people you "observed" to be "in general, and on average, peaceful and law-abiding." they were not muslims, sikhs, or christians.

coming out of the woodwork, targeting women, but not responding to others legit questions on your allegations; incorrigible, you both are
இன்னா மச்சி!   நம்ம​ கிட்ட​ மோதாம​, பொம்பளைங்களா பொறுக்கினு கீறே! எல்லாம் சேர்ந்து ஆப்பை அட்ச்சி கிளிச்சுட்டானுங்களா!  வீடியோல
1:25 - 2:05 காட்னா மாதிரி..இப்ப​ தெர்தா நாதாரிப் பயலுங்களா  

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

as per my observation tamils are, in general and on average, superior culturally, ethically, morally, and intellectually to all other Indians. of course there will always be the occasional rotten apple like perhaps the woman you spoke with.

As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

harsh mander, then a serving i.a.s. officer, writes that he was "numbed with disgust and horror" by the murders of muslims in february and march, 2002, in naroda patiya and other parts of ahmedabad. 

he is writing about the horrors perpetrated by the people you "observed" to be "in general, and on average, peaceful and law-abiding." they were not muslims, sikhs, or christians.

coming out of the woodwork, targeting women, but not responding to others legit questions on your allegations; incorrigible, you both are
இன்னா மச்சி!   நம்ம​ கிட்ட​ மோதாம​, பொம்பளைங்களா பொறுக்கினு கீறே! எல்லாம் சேர்ந்து ஆப்பை அட்ச்சி கிளிச்சுட்டானுங்களா!  வீடியோல
1:25 - 2:05 காட்னா மாதிரி..இப்ப​ தெர்தா நாதாரிப் பயலுங்களா  

swapna wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:
As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

harsh mander, then a serving i.a.s. officer, writes that he was "numbed with disgust and horror" by the murders of muslims in february and march, 2002, in naroda patiya and other parts of ahmedabad. 

he is writing about the horrors perpetrated by the people you "observed" to be "in general, and on average, peaceful and law-abiding." they were not muslims, sikhs, or christians.

coming out of the woodwork, targeting women, but not responding to others legit questions on your allegations; incorrigible, you both are
இன்னா மச்சி!   நம்ம​ கிட்ட​ மோதாம​, பொம்பளைங்களா பொறுக்கினு கீறே! எல்லாம் சேர்ந்து ஆப்பை அட்ச்சி கிளிச்சுட்டானுங்களா!  வீடியோல
1:25 - 2:05 காட்னா மாதிரி..இப்ப​ தெர்தா நாதாரிப் பயலுங்களா  

no question is legit in the light of your crass "puNs." I note that gc was so embarrassed by your vulgarity that he punished you with a resounding slap, characterizing you as "crass."

you called me other names for months, as if you were the thirteen-year-old brother of the tyre-level propa711. I waited patiently for you to grow up and reform yourself. you didn't. thus, no answers for you.

the moral of your story: crass tamil brahmins are just crass.

swapna wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:

seven wrote:
As per my observation Hindus are, in general and on average, peaceful and law abiding people.

you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

harsh mander, then a serving i.a.s. officer, writes that he was "numbed with disgust and horror" by the murders of muslims in february and march, 2002, in naroda patiya and other parts of ahmedabad. 

he is writing about the horrors perpetrated by the people you "observed" to be "in general, and on average, peaceful and law-abiding." they were not muslims, sikhs, or christians.

coming out of the woodwork, targeting women, but not responding to others legit questions on your allegations; incorrigible, you both are
இன்னா மச்சி!   நம்ம​ கிட்ட​ மோதாம​, பொம்பளைங்களா பொறுக்கினு கீறே! எல்லாம் சேர்ந்து ஆப்பை அட்ச்சி கிளிச்சுட்டானுங்களா!  வீடியோல
1:25 - 2:05 காட்னா மாதிரி..இப்ப​ தெர்தா நாதாரிப் பயலுங்களா  

"targeting women?" are these your women? are you their protector, as the admin fancied himself to be? they don't need you; they are not the angels you naively think they are. 

for example, seven started this thread of her own volition. she knew the possible consequences. you will gain nothing from these women, least of all, access, for you've now revealed yourself to be as crude as anyone can be.

please use better tamil.

swapna wrote:
max has gone out of his way to show his love of northpeepal's music ever since the powerful charvakan started this forum and made.clear that he would oppose any criticism of northpeepals. you should appreciate max's openmindedness to your music.

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:
you must not have heard of babri masjid, the massacre of sikhs after indira gandhi's assassination.- was that perpetrated by muslims? - or the killings of muslims in ahmedabad in february and march, 2002. and you surely missed this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/cry-the-beloved-country/214944

harsh mander, then a serving i.a.s. officer, writes that he was "numbed with disgust and horror" by the murders of muslims in february and march, 2002, in naroda patiya and other parts of ahmedabad. 

he is writing about the horrors perpetrated by the people you "observed" to be "in general, and on average, peaceful and law-abiding." they were not muslims, sikhs, or christians.

coming out of the woodwork, targeting women, but not responding to others legit questions on your allegations; incorrigible, you both are
இன்னா மச்சி!   நம்ம​ கிட்ட​ மோதாம​, பொம்பளைங்களா பொறுக்கினு கீறே! எல்லாம் சேர்ந்து ஆப்பை அட்ச்சி கிளிச்சுட்டானுங்களா!  வீடியோல
1:25 - 2:05 காட்னா மாதிரி..இப்ப​ தெர்தா நாதாரிப் பயலுங்களா  

"targeting women?" are these your women? are you their protector, as the admin fancied himself to be? they don't need you; they are not the angels you naively think they are. 

for example, seven started this thread of her own volition. she knew the possible consequences. you will gain nothing from these women, least of all, access, for you've now revealed yourself to be as crude as anyone can be.

please use better tamil.

hahaha..  that ain't going to work either.. *I am interfering in anyway* with the women's posts, but only whipping you for chasing them exclusively. matter of fact at least one of them is your nightmare, isn't it?

swapna wrote:..... I waited patiently for you to grow up and reform yourself. you didn't. thus, no answers for you.

the moral of your story: crass tamil brahmins are just crass.

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:..... I waited patiently for you to grow up and reform yourself. you didn't. thus, no answers for you.

the moral of your story: crass tamil brahmins are just crass.

you are not even wrong, and you know that.

et voila , a very well known, time-proven adage, just for you - good luck with you getting it right, though...
கெட்டாலும் மேன்மக்களே* மேன்மக்களே
சங்கு சுட்டாலும் வெண்மை தரும்

and mbwaahahaha.. what a filthy rat you are, running away without proving any of your allegations but trying to end it with ''no answers for you"; in this forum, for me, it's like 'deja vu all over again' as they say

garam-kuta wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

please seven..one swallow doesn't make a summer. and as good citizen has pointed out, majority of tamilians do celebrate ramanavami - the issue is it is rooted in religion and hence may not gel with linguistic solidarity. in the us, celebrating christmas is fun but optional for non-christians though the language enlish could be the common denominator.

I think max is just assertive of his own rights to choose, and not be pushed to renounce distinct cultural traditions and lose distinction. as for me , i love those feasting festivals and generally refrain those fasting ones

yes. pleading and gentle persuasion will work with the northindian crowd. do some more.

swapna wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:......
yes. pleading and gentle persuasion will work with the northindian crowd. do some more.

the comment above in bold text, by the hyphenated dog is by far the best in this thread. haha @ the sarcastic "gentle persuasion" and "do some more."