We have our own traditions - a Tamil woman

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Meghna Mathur wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

you may have a point, seven. Look what it did to the senile one, having lived among tamilnadus (I like this term hehe) for 22 impressionable years of his life . and look what happened to Rashmun, who I believe used to be an earnest, although idiotic, scholar. The senile one HAD to pretend to be a TAMBRAM and listen to their conversations by eavesdropping from outside their dorm rooms to gain some sorta acceptance. Rashmun, poor fella, could not learn their language even.

hahaha.. jokes aside. I know someone indian and non-tamil and non-Christian who gets PISSED if people wish them merry Christmas. different different personalities.

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

garam_kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

please seven..one swallow doesn't make a summer. and as good citizen has pointed out, majority of tamilians do celebrate ramanavami - the issue is it is rooted in religion and hence may not gel with linguistic solidarity. in the us, celebrating christmas is fun but optional for non-christians though the language enlish could be the common denominator.

I think max is just assertive of his own rights to choose, and not be pushed to renounce distinct cultural traditions and lose distinction. as for me , i love those feasting festivals and generally refrain those fasting ones

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Hellsangel wrote:Hi GC. Welcome back.

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Hi GC. Welcome back.

Thanks, Hellsbells. Wtf is going on here? I notice two hotdogs and a lot of pig vomit threads.

Meghna Mathur wrote:Hey GC

welcome back... currently, this (video below) is what's going on. from this you might be able to assume what was going on before that. 

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

goodcitizn wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:Hey GC

welcome back... currently, this (video below) is what's going on. from this you might be able to assume what was going on before that. 

I can see from HA's, Hotdog's and your response as to why this is no longer a fun forum to visit.

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Hi GC. Welcome back.

Thanks, Hellsbells. Wtf is going on here? I notice two hotdogs and a lot of pig vomit threads.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Hi GC. Welcome back.

Thanks, Hellsbells. Wtf is going on here? I notice two hotdogs and a lot of pig vomit threads.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

i see that others have corrected you re TN and ramanavami. regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?

garam-kuta wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

+1

goodcitizn wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

i see that others have corrected you re TN and ramanavami. regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?

That woman saying, "we don't celebrate Ramanavami in Tamil Nadu; we have other festivals," seems to suggest she is a non-Hindu.

Meghna Mathur wrote:
how do you celebrate it? if i remember correctly, we invite about 9 or more kids (is it girls?) from the neighborhood for a feast at home. i am usually never clear on what we do when, but this is what's coming to my mind. as per my habit, i assume a lot. so am guessing the op convo was, 'we don't celebrate it this way'.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

Meghna Mathur wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

confuzzled dude wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

Those are valid questions If that Westerner lived all his life India/TN and that was Max's point.

Appalamma wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

Valid questions if the westerner lives in TN.

Meghna Mathur wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

Those are valid questions If that Westerner lived all his life India/TN and that was Max's point.

it was funny to me the way it was composed. listing particular things and activities Max constantly talks about. I never remember details like this, and hence parodies/spoofs are always funny to me. 

and no, i don't think max wasn't addressing NIs living in TN.

Meghna Mathur wrote:
how do you celebrate it? if i remember correctly, we invite about 9 or more kids (is it girls?) from the neighborhood for a feast at home. i am usually never clear on what we do when, but this is what's coming to my mind. as per my habit, i assume a lot. so am guessing the op convo was, 'we don't celebrate it this way'.

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

confuzzled dude wrote:A friend of mine from Punjab told me that people from Punjab, Haryana, HP etc., mainly worship Vaishno Devi, Rama Navami not very popular; in a way they have their own traditions too.

Rashmun wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

+1

i am also in agreement with what Max has written. but i think we need to go deeper into this issue. for instance, there is a lot of cultural variation between a punjabi vs uttar pradeshi vs bihari vs bengali. to lump them into a single category of NI ("northindian") in any discussion involving indian culture is just intellectual laziness.
it is easier for a tamilian to know hindi because of the existence of the language Dakhini (or Dakhni) which is the southern indian variant of hindi. this is a good article on the subject:

http://www.makarand.com/acad/HindiHainHum.htm

seven wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

seven wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

would you mind translating the last paragraph to a language that you know better. even if it's hindi, we may understand it better than your english. thanks in advance.

I feel this forum n learning about Tamil people's mentality is influencing me in a bad way.

Seven, you start this thread with the assumption that people in Tamil Nadu don't celebrate Rama Navami (not Navmi) based on one Tamil woman's comment and then make snide remarks about Max and others without knowing anything about the Hindu practices in Tamil Nadu. I question your mentality.

i did not assume one way or another. it's celebrated or not is besides the point. i talked about that woman's reluctance to accept ram navmi wishes and instead of just letting it slide, making a point to tell everyone they don't celebrate it in TN, have their own things (yes, she said things) and don't want to add new things. 

her attitude towards accepting wishes reminded me of max somehow. it may be because i'm not too impressed by tamils on this forum. or maybe because my mentality is becoming like the general mood of our forum - foul.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Meghna Mathur wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

this was more about simple greetings and mere pot luck (I think). where there is feasting, it's a different type of mindset. music recital is a bigger commitment. My gujju friend teaches BN to little kids in her neighborhood. she doesn't think my culture their culture. She likes it, she does it. you think it, not sure if that's "true" open mindedness. seven has started thinking it now. That's what her point was in OP. 

talking about feasting, i remember reading here i think, that now a days BN personal type of concerts people keep samosa, etc to entice audience while it was not a norm before. So I mean... that's cultural openness right there, and in a way proves your point.

garam_kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

please seven..one swallow doesn't make a summer. and as good citizen has pointed out, majority of tamilians do celebrate ramanavami - the issue is it is rooted in religion and hence may not gel with linguistic solidarity. in the us, celebrating christmas is fun but optional for non-christians though the language enlish could be the common denominator.

I think max is just assertive of his own rights to choose, and not be pushed to renounce distinct cultural traditions and lose distinction. as for me , i love those feasting festivals and generally refrain those fasting ones

confuzzled dude wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Meghna Mathur wrote:

Kinnera wrote:
Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

Those are valid questions If that Westerner lived all his life India/TN and that was Max's point.

it was funny to me the way it was composed. listing particular things and activities Max constantly talks about. I never remember details like this, and hence parodies/spoofs are always funny to me. 

and no, i don't think max wasn't addressing NIs living in TN.

Many Indians [arrogantly] claim that they write/spell better than Americans. Well, Max's and many South Indians' gripe is about North Indians insistence, on everyone speaking in Hindi while not making any effort to learn another Indian language.

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

seven wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

seven wrote:...and do not want to add more to the list"

She works in US. When people were exchanging Ramnavmi greetings, she said we don't celebrate Ramnavmi in tamilnadu. We have our own Festivals, don't want to add new ones to  the list followed by a sheepish hehe. 

I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!

You cannot wish someone or accept a wish from someone Bcz you don't celebrate that in your state? What kind of insecure culture is this? 
You are not even there right now. You're in US, which btw is very accepting of other cultures.

Other thing that worries me is *I* noticed she said that. Normally I wouldn't care. I'll be like so they don't celebrate, whatever. Move on to other things like who is bringing what to the potluck. But I noticed she said that n didn't like it. It reminded me of max entropy n other closed tamilnadus.

please seven..one swallow doesn't make a summer. and as good citizen has pointed out, majority of tamilians do celebrate ramanavami - the issue is it is rooted in religion and hence may not gel with linguistic solidarity. in the us, celebrating christmas is fun but optional for non-christians though the language enlish could be the common denominator.

I think max is just assertive of his own rights to choose, and not be pushed to renounce distinct cultural traditions and lose distinction. as for me , i love those feasting festivals and generally refrain those fasting ones

i know all tamil people are not like her. i know people who aren't like her. 
that remark reminded me of max because idk why. 

me too @ fasting. my mom fasts and i cannot understand why. i cannot be hungry.

I remember growing up neighborhood aunties used to fast and invite us for kanya bhoj. one particular lol aunty used to be like totally out of energy and talk almost in whispers and i was scared in my heart that she's going to die and worry why isn't she eating. they told me she will eat after we all finish. she used to sit with bunch of bananas and break one from the bunch to give it to the girls in a zombie like slow motion. i was too scared to go near her and never got the banana.

Meghna Mathur wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:more tamilians speak hindi than northindians who speak tamil. many tamilians have studied hindustani music formally and become professional hindustani musicians. northindian carnatic musician is a non-existent species. so we'll talk about cultural open-mindedness after you (i.e. seven) have attended your first carnatic music concert.

Do you say the same to a westerner? "I can speak in english and feel that the more proficient I am in that, the more superior I am to others. How much Tamil do you know? I listen to jazz, rock, western classical and all and believe that listening to them makes me look sophisticated and classy. How much do you know about Carnatic music? I eat grilled salmon and drink expensive whiskeys and beers, which puts me in an upscale league. Have you ever tasted arachuvitta sambar, paruppu rasam or tayir sadam?"

no westerner has complained to me that i don't celebrate their festivals. the only occasions when i've had to tell someone off like that in the US is when i was approached by proselytizers, once a mormon missionary and the second time a jehovah's witness. on both occasions i curtly told them to buzz off, and they did. they didn't stand around and complain how insular tamil americans are, and so they were not at the receiving end of "the lecture".

incidentally, more americans have displayed curiosity about carnatic musicians than northindians ever have. there was a competent professional carnatic musician of american origin, a professor at wesleyan university in CT by the name of jon higgins. he used to be affectionately known as higgins bhagavathar in chennai music circles. i have posted clips of his music here. search on youtube for him. in fact it started with him, but wesleyan now has a full fledged degree program in carnatic music.

you haven't been to any non indian or non hindu festivals/feasts of your friends or colleagues? or wish them? or if they wish you (ignorantly), politely wish them back? or did you tell them to buzz off? 

forget seven's corelation to you. you are saying above, "regardless, the person who told you off is absolutely right in telling you that she doesn't celebrate ramanavami. why does it concern you whether or not she celebrates ramanavami? it's a religious festival, isn't it?"

among group of friends, i assume, you will behave the same way? remember the context of OP. it was a group of friends. Not some mormon or jenovah's witness on your doorstep.

and kindly try to stick to the topic. first you start talking about carnatic music, then you write a paragraph of irrelevant people playing it. not making any real point except showcasing your useless (to the topic) knowledge.