Re: On playing the caste card

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:48 pm

Rashmun wrote:Debating with Charvaka also made me understand the Charvakian tactic if i may call it that.

If Charvaka disagrees with you strongly about something--even if it something as petty as the view on Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian-- then he will do the following:

1. Go out of his way to discredit you
2. Refuse to accept even reasonable things you say
3. Get his attack dogs to bite you. These attack dogs comprise abusive posters who have no compulsions about parental or family abuse or even giving death threats. They are also Gultis and they are friends of his. Charvaka has never reprimanded them because he wants to retain their goodwill and friendship for the time when they are to be used against people he wants them to bite. For instance, Seva or Luke Warmus. With more and more Gultis joining the fray, other Gultis feel obliged to take the side of their fellow Gultis.

I agree with you....that this 3 -step process followed by Carvaka is complex. Do you suggest that he also follow YOUR method of

"Attack the mother and father of any poster that disagrees with you on your CLAIMS, LIES, or MADE UP ACCUSATIONS".

by Guest Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:53 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Debating with Charvaka also made me understand the Charvakian tactic if i may call it that.

If Charvaka disagrees with you strongly about something--even if it something as petty as the view on Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian-- then he will do the following:

1. Go out of his way to discredit you
2. Refuse to accept even reasonable things you say
3. Get his attack dogs to bite you. These attack dogs comprise abusive posters who have no compulsions about parental or family abuse or even giving death threats. They are also Gultis and they are friends of his. Charvaka has never reprimanded them because he wants to retain their goodwill and friendship for the time when they are to be used against people he wants them to bite. For instance, Seva or Luke Warmus. With more and more Gultis joining the fray, other Gultis feel obliged to take the side of their fellow Gultis.

I agree with you....that this 3 -step process followed by Carvaka is complex. Do you suggest that he also follow YOUR method of

"Attack the mother and father of any poster that disagrees with you on your CLAIMS, LIES, or MADE UP ACCUSATIONS".

It is true that i have questioned your upbringing after you started calling me jehadi, terrorist, mullah, maulana, etc. It is also true that you claimed that i did not know who my biological father was and you also claimed that you were having intimate relations with gyaanputra's mother.

This is actually one problem why the Charvakian tactic did not work with me: I can actually handle attack dogs like you who have no knowledge about concrete issues other than childish gibberish but love to go on the attack and abuse away to glory.

by Guest Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:57 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Debating with Charvaka also made me understand the Charvakian tactic if i may call it that.

If Charvaka disagrees with you strongly about something--even if it something as petty as the view on Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian-- then he will do the following:

1. Go out of his way to discredit you
2. Refuse to accept even reasonable things you say
3. Get his attack dogs to bite you. These attack dogs comprise abusive posters who have no compulsions about parental or family abuse or even giving death threats. They are also Gultis and they are friends of his. Charvaka has never reprimanded them because he wants to retain their goodwill and friendship for the time when they are to be used against people he wants them to bite. For instance, Seva or Luke Warmus. With more and more Gultis joining the fray, other Gultis feel obliged to take the side of their fellow Gultis.

I agree with you....that this 3 -step process followed by Carvaka is complex. Do you suggest that he also follow YOUR method of

"Attack the mother and father of any poster that disagrees with you on your CLAIMS, LIES, or MADE UP ACCUSATIONS".

It is true that i have questioned your upbringing after you started calling me jehadi, terrorist, mullah, maulana, etc. It is also true that you claimed that i did not know who my biological father was and you also claimed that you were having intimate relations with gyaanputra's mother.

This is actually one problem why the Charvakian tactic did not work with me: I can actually handle attack dogs like you who have no knowledge about concrete issues other than childish gibberish but love to go on the attack and abuse away to glory.

--> I would also like to add that a man with even a shred of honor, decency, ethics, integrity, values would not have behaved with Merlot as you did:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33620

by charvaka Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:15 pm

Rashmun wrote:Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian

https://such.forumotion.com/t2502-my-line-is-the-party-line-diggy-raja#21597
My stand that Diggy is an important leader of the Congress and not a 'clown' as some were trying to portray him to be stands vindicated.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#18676
in my opinion all those who are calling diggy raja a clown will be eating humble pie after he becomes a union cabinet minister in 2014.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
to begin with, i don't consider Diggy a clown. i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:19 pm

haha carvaka -- have you considered a job with the daily show?

by truthbetold Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:33 pm

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian
https://such.forumotion.com/t2502-my-line-is-the-party-line-diggy-raja#21597
My stand that Diggy is an important leader of the Congress and not a 'clown' as some were trying to portray him to be stands vindicated.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#18676
in my opinion all those who are calling diggy raja a clown will be eating humble pie after he becomes a union cabinet minister in 2014.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
to begin with, i don't consider Diggy a clown. i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

Cravaka,

What have you done? Now we will have a lesson on the difference between a clown and comedian.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:34 pm

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian
https://such.forumotion.com/t2502-my-line-is-the-party-line-diggy-raja#21597
My stand that Diggy is an important leader of the Congress and not a 'clown' as some were trying to portray him to be stands vindicated.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#18676
in my opinion all those who are calling diggy raja a clown will be eating humble pie after he becomes a union cabinet minister in 2014.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
to begin with, i don't consider Diggy a clown. i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

Please stop digging up posts that contradict Maulana Rashmunullah Jehadi's claims, "facts", "truths" and "godly revelations" . Even if you did, those must have been said in a rage of fury, and hence justified. Even if abused and lied, it is only bcz you and some Uppili MADE him do that.

Anyway which way you look at it the Maulana talks truth oonly.

P.S. Please note that he is for inter-caste marriages although he is marrying within Brahmin cashtu. But, I think he being a Maulana is actually going to convert hid bride before dumdumming.

by Guest Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:53 pm

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Diggy Raja who i consider a bit of a comedian and Charvaka considers a villian
https://such.forumotion.com/t2502-my-line-is-the-party-line-diggy-raja#21597
My stand that Diggy is an important leader of the Congress and not a 'clown' as some were trying to portray him to be stands vindicated.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#18676
in my opinion all those who are calling diggy raja a clown will be eating humble pie after he becomes a union cabinet minister in 2014.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
to begin with, i don't consider Diggy a clown. i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

--> The reason i was posting links to articles containing Diggy Raja's statements was because i was finding them funny. In that sense he is a bit of a comedian.

--> At another level, he is a serious politician because he has been chief minister of undivided Madhya Pradesh (i.e. when Chattisgarh was part of Madhya Pradesh) for 10 years and is now said to be the principal adviser to Rahul Gandhi.

--> Dismissing him as a clown would be like dismissing YSR--when he was alive--as simply a clown because he abused Chandrababu Naidu in the Andhra assembly.

by chameli Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:55 pm

Charvakian tactics ?

I've heard of Chanakya .... advisor to Chandragupta Maurya ..and considered to be the Hindu Machiavelli Razz

boss u need to take a bow !

by Guest Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:07 pm

--> The reason i was posting links to articles containing Diggy Raja's statements was because i was finding them funny. In that sense he is a bit of a comedian.

--> At another level, he is a serious politician because he has been chief minister of undivided Madhya Pradesh (i.e. when Chattisgarh was part of Madhya Pradesh) for 10 years and is now said to be the principal adviser to Rahul Gandhi.

--> Dismissing him as a clown would be like dismissing YSR--when he was alive--as simply a clown because he abused Chandrababu Naidu in the Andhra assembly.[/quote]

--> Your real view of Diggy Raja--that he is a villain-- is to be gleaned from this post of yours where you call him a 'hamla kutta' and make it very clear that you have no respect for him:

When Diggy becomes a Cabinet mantriji in 2014 and we all start respecting him again, Congress will need a new hamla-kuttaji.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2317p150-should-adminstrator-of-this-forum-be-replaced?theme_id=104384

by Guest Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:12 pm

Rashmun wrote:--> The reason i was posting links to articles containing Diggy Raja's statements was because i was finding them funny. In that sense he is a bit of a comedian.

--> At another level, he is a serious politician because he has been chief minister of undivided Madhya Pradesh (i.e. when Chattisgarh was part of Madhya Pradesh) for 10 years and is now said to be the principal adviser to Rahul Gandhi.

--> Dismissing him as a clown would be like dismissing YSR--when he was alive--as simply a clown because he abused Chandrababu Naidu in the Andhra assembly.

--> Your real view of Diggy Raja--that he is a villain-- is to be gleaned from this post of yours where you call him a 'hamla kutta' and make it very clear that you have no respect for him:

When Diggy becomes a Cabinet mantriji in 2014 and we all start respecting him again, Congress will need a new hamla-kuttaji.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2317p150-should-adminstrator-of-this-forum-be-replaced?theme_id=104384[/quote]

--> Shortly after i started posting articles containing Diggy Raja's statements the phrase 'Rashmun Method' was coined, described in a derogatory way, and then used again and again by you in post after post in a bid to discredit me. Curiously enough, you had been an admirer of the 'Rashmun Method' earlier when you would post congratulatory messages expressing support for my philosophy posts and also several posts. In one of your sulekha blogs you expressed complete support for my criticism of Adi Sankara's views on sudras.

--> The correct thing for you to do, of course, was to criticize me when you disagreed with me. It was up to you to express support or to remain silent when you agreed with me. By going out of your way to undermine my credibility--on all issues-- you undermined your own credibility particularly since you had earlier expressed support for many of my views. And this is what i have been trying to explain to you.

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:16 am

Rashmun wrote:Your real view of Diggy Raja--that he is a villain-- is to be gleaned from this post of yours where you call him a 'hamla kutta'

In that case, you must consider him a villain too.

https://such.forumotion.com/t1964-diggy-raja-as-home-minister-of-india#16730

charvaka wrote:Why don't they make him Home Minister now? Yuvraj for PM, Diggyraj for Home.

Rashmun replied: because he is required right now as an attack dog for the Congress.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19035

could it be that the BJP will stop attacking Diggy once he is no longer the attack dog

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:17 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:haha carvaka -- have you considered a job with the daily show?

Rashmun makes this too easy.

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:21 am

Rashmun wrote:The reason i was posting links to articles containing Diggy Raja's statements was because i was finding them funny. In that sense he is a bit of a comedian.

Your words:
https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

https://such.forumotion.com/t1964-diggy-raja-as-home-minister-of-india#16724
If the Congress returns to power in 2014, one can expect Diggy Raja to be given an important position in the cabinet. One should not be surprised if he becomes the union home minister.

Rashmun wrote:Dismissing him as a clown

is a problem, but dismissing him as a comedian is not. Makes a lot of sense!

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:26 am

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Your real view of Diggy Raja--that he is a villain-- is to be gleaned from this post of yours where you call him a 'hamla kutta'
In that case, you must consider him a villain too.

https://such.forumotion.com/t1964-diggy-raja-as-home-minister-of-india#16730

charvaka wrote:Why don't they make him Home Minister now? Yuvraj for PM, Diggyraj for Home.

Rashmun replied: because he is required right now as an attack dog for the Congress.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19035

could it be that the BJP will stop attacking Diggy once he is no longer the attack dog

--> the phrase 'attack dog' is a commonly used english phrase for a politician given the task of attacking a rival political party. My objection is to you calling Diggy a 'kutta'. 'Hamla Kutta', even though it is the hindi equivalent of the english term, is a term that carries a derogatory connotation. and further if one reads your entire sentence you make it clear that you do not have any respect for him. Let me quote you again:

When Diggy becomes a Cabinet mantriji in 2014 and we all start respecting him again, Congress will need a new hamla-kuttaji.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:28 am

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The reason i was posting links to articles containing Diggy Raja's statements was because i was finding them funny. In that sense he is a bit of a comedian.
Your words:
https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

https://such.forumotion.com/t1964-diggy-raja-as-home-minister-of-india#16724
If the Congress returns to power in 2014, one can expect Diggy Raja to be given an important position in the cabinet. One should not be surprised if he becomes the union home minister.

Rashmun wrote:Dismissing him as a clown
is a problem, but dismissing him as a comedian is not. Makes a lot of sense!

--> His words are well though through and measured but the way he presents his views has a comical touch which i find amusing.

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:29 am

Rashmun, my sincere advice to you: stop digging yourself into a hole. Just let it go.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:29 am

charvaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:haha carvaka -- have you considered a job with the daily show?
Rashmun makes this too easy.

--> is that why you are religiously avoiding any response to what i wrote just a few posts earlier:

--> Shortly after i started posting articles containing Diggy Raja's
statements the phrase 'Rashmun Method' was coined, described in a
derogatory way, and then used again and again by you in post after post
in a bid to discredit me. Curiously enough, you had been an admirer of
the 'Rashmun Method' earlier when you would post congratulatory messages
expressing support for my philosophy posts and also several posts. In
one of your sulekha blogs you expressed complete support for my
criticism of Adi Sankara's views on sudras.

--> The correct
thing for you to do, of course, was to criticize me when you disagreed
with me. It was up to you to express support or to remain silent when
you agreed with me. By going out of your way to undermine my
credibility--on all issues-- you undermined your own credibility
particularly since you had earlier expressed support for many of my
views. And this is what i have been trying to explain to you.

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:30 am

truthbetold wrote:What have you done? Now we will have a lesson on the difference between a clown and comedian.

Haha. Now that you made this post before he could give that lecture, we won't get that lecture.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:30 am

charvaka wrote:Rashmun, my sincere advice to you: stop digging yourself into a hole. Just let it go.

--> You should have thought of that before you started going out of your way to undermine my credibility.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:31 am

charvaka wrote:
truthbetold wrote:What have you done? Now we will have a lesson on the difference between a clown and comedian.
Haha. Now that you made this post before he could give that lecture, we won't get that lecture.

--> there is a difference between 'a bit of a comedian'--the precise phrase i had used-- and a 'comedian'.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 am

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The reason i was posting links to articles containing Diggy Raja's statements was because i was finding them funny. In that sense he is a bit of a comedian.
Your words:
https://such.forumotion.com/t2191-when-diggy-raja-made-bjp-rss-eat-crow#19013
i think his words are for the most part well thought through and measured

https://such.forumotion.com/t1964-diggy-raja-as-home-minister-of-india#16724
If the Congress returns to power in 2014, one can expect Diggy Raja to be given an important position in the cabinet. One should not be surprised if he becomes the union home minister.

Rashmun wrote:Dismissing him as a clown
is a problem, but dismissing him as a comedian is not. Makes a lot of sense!

--> There is a difference between 'a bit of a comedian'--the precise phrase i had used--and a 'clown'. Calling someone a 'clown' carries a definite negative connotation. Calling someone 'a bit of a comedian' does not carry a negative connotation.

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:37 am

Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:haha carvaka -- have you considered a job with the daily show?
Rashmun makes this too easy.

--> is that why you are religiously avoiding any response to what i wrote just a few posts earlier:

--> Shortly after i started posting articles containing Diggy Raja's
statements the phrase 'Rashmun Method' was coined, described in a
derogatory way, and then used again and again by you in post after post
in a bid to discredit me. Curiously enough, you had been an admirer of
the 'Rashmun Method' earlier when you would post congratulatory messages
expressing support for my philosophy posts and also several posts. In
one of your sulekha blogs you expressed complete support for my
criticism of Adi Sankara's views on sudras.

--> The correct
thing for you to do, of course, was to criticize me when you disagreed
with me. It was up to you to express support or to remain silent when
you agreed with me. By going out of your way to undermine my
credibility--on all issues-- you undermined your own credibility
particularly since you had earlier expressed support for many of my
views. And this is what i have been trying to explain to you.

Dear Rashmun, you are doing a lot more to undermine your own credibility than anything I could possibly do to help you in that quest. Look at this very thread. You started with a wrong claim that nobody forced you to make (that you played the caste card exactly once in your life.) When I bid you good day after simply pointing out the error, you dug yourself deeper in the hole with another wrong claim that I could easily prove wrong. I implore you, stop digging. You now agree with me that Diggy Raja is a joker; that's great. We don't need to agree on which word to use; I will use clown, you use comedian.

On a tangent, when is the wedding?

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:47 am

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:haha carvaka -- have you considered a job with the daily show?
Rashmun makes this too easy.

--> is that why you are religiously avoiding any response to what i wrote just a few posts earlier:

--> Shortly after i started posting articles containing Diggy Raja's
statements the phrase 'Rashmun Method' was coined, described in a
derogatory way, and then used again and again by you in post after post
in a bid to discredit me. Curiously enough, you had been an admirer of
the 'Rashmun Method' earlier when you would post congratulatory messages
expressing support for my philosophy posts and also several posts. In
one of your sulekha blogs you expressed complete support for my
criticism of Adi Sankara's views on sudras.

--> The correct
thing for you to do, of course, was to criticize me when you disagreed
with me. It was up to you to express support or to remain silent when
you agreed with me. By going out of your way to undermine my
credibility--on all issues-- you undermined your own credibility
particularly since you had earlier expressed support for many of my
views. And this is what i have been trying to explain to you.
Dear Rashmun, you are doing a lot more to undermine your own credibility than anything I could possibly do to help you in that quest. Look at this very thread. You started with a wrong claim that nobody forced you to make (that you played the caste card exactly once in your life.) When I bid you good day after simply pointing out the error, you dug yourself deeper in the hole with another wrong claim that I could easily prove wrong. I implore you, stop digging. You now agree with me that Diggy Raja is a joker; that's great. We don't need to agree on which word to use; I will use clown, you use comedian.

On a tangent, when is the wedding?

--> And my dear fellow, you cannot possibly do anything to undermine my credibility because by coining the phrase 'Rashmun Method' and using it again and again in post after post to discredit me, you undermined your own credibility. The reason for this is that before our disagreement you were in agreement with me on several issues. You were particularly fond of my philosophy posts and repeatedly posted in support of my views.

--> Your cheap tactics are now exposed. Everyone knows now what a cheap person you are befitting a person whose own uncle is a fraudulent priest who goes around cheating people:

http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse/attention-seva-1122843.htm

--> With such a background, it is not surprising to see you resorting to crooked tactics. Trying your utmost to label someone you disagree with as a casteist just because you disagree with that person's view of Diggy Raja would have surely made your uncle proud of you. More so, since the person you are trying to malign with the 'casteist' slur is someone who has consistently advocated for the destruction of the caste system, who has repeatedly promoted inter caste marriages, and who has criticized Adi Sankara's views on sudras.

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:53 am

Rashmun wrote:You call me a casteist

I didn't. I just pointed out that your original claim of playing the caste card "exactly once" was wrong. HTH.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:59 am

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:You call me a casteist
I didn't. I just pointed out that your original claim of playing the caste card "exactly once" was wrong. HTH.

And you lied for two reasons:
1. my post was about real life and not internet posts i had made in heated debates.
2. even in internet debates i have consistently been opposed to casteism as people who have known me for the longest period of time (Kris and Dr Kapasi have now known me for over 15 years) will attest to.

With LittleFella i was not playing the caste card, rather i was responding and reacting to the caste card played by him when he asked me 'What is your caste' in a heated debate in which abuses were flying in both directions.

Time to get additional training from your uncle?

by charvaka Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:07 am

Rashmun wrote:With LittleFella i was not playing the caste card

Your words from Thursday: https://such.forumotion.com/t4105-on-playing-the-caste-card#33357
the caste card was played with LF

You should hold a meeting with yourself -- all sides of it -- and figure this important issue out.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:09 am

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:With LittleFella i was not playing the caste card

Your words from Thursday: https://such.forumotion.com/t4105-on-playing-the-caste-card#33357
the caste card was played with LF

You should hold a meeting with yourself -- all sides of it -- and figure this important issue out.

--> I miswrote that. It was LF who played the card card by asking the question 'What is your caste?' in the midst of a heated debate in which abuses were flying in both directions.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:11 am

Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:With LittleFella i was not playing the caste card

Your words from Thursday: https://such.forumotion.com/t4105-on-playing-the-caste-card#33357
the caste card was played with LF

You should hold a meeting with yourself -- all sides of it -- and figure this important issue out.

--> I miswrote that. It was LF who played the card card by asking the question 'What is your caste?' in the midst of a heated debate in which abuses were flying in both directions.

--> The record is there for all to see. He played the caste card by asking the casteist question 'What is your caste?' and i simply responded and reacted to his question.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:15 am

Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:With LittleFella i was not playing the caste card

Your words from Thursday: https://such.forumotion.com/t4105-on-playing-the-caste-card#33357
the caste card was played with LF

You should hold a meeting with yourself -- all sides of it -- and figure this important issue out.

--> I miswrote that. It was LF who played the card card by asking the question 'What is your caste?' in the midst of a heated debate in which abuses were flying in both directions.

--> It is not surprising why i would miswrite something like that. When someone who has consistently been opposed to casteism, who has repeatedly called for the destruction of the caste system, who has repeatedly promoted inter caste marriage, who has criticized Adi Sankara's derogatory views on sudras is accused of playing the caste card (with the clear insinuation that he is a casteist) than that person is liable to make a few errors when defending himself against the surprise attack.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:21 am

Rashmun wrote:
--> It is not surprising why i would miswrite something like that. When someone who has consistently been opposed to casteism, who has repeatedly called for the destruction of the caste system, who has repeatedly promoted inter caste marriage, who has criticized Adi Sankara's derogatory views on sudras is accused of playing the caste card (with the clear insinuation that he is a casteist) than that person is liable to make a few errors when defending himself against the surprise attack.

Let us clear some things here. Since, according to you, I ONLY speak the truth and whatever I say is golden for you:

1. I am the one who coined "rashmun Methodology"

2. I am the one who calls you a hypocrite, liar, and yes a Jehadi

3. I am also the one who call you a Casteist.

4. I am also the one who calls you the cut and vomit dumbest guy I have come across in real or on the net.

and

5. finally, Congratulations and good luck in your marriage.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:32 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
--> It is not surprising why i would miswrite something like that. When someone who has consistently been opposed to casteism, who has repeatedly called for the destruction of the caste system, who has repeatedly promoted inter caste marriage, who has criticized Adi Sankara's derogatory views on sudras is accused of playing the caste card (with the clear insinuation that he is a casteist) than that person is liable to make a few errors when defending himself against the surprise attack.

Let us clear some things here. Since, according to you, I ONLY speak the truth and whatever I say is golden for you:

1. I am the one who coined "rashmun Methodology"
2. I am the one who calls you a hypocrite, liar, and yes a Jehadi

3. I am also the one who call you a Casteist.

4. I am also the one who calls you the cut and vomit dumbest guy I have come across in real or on the net.

and

5. finally, Congratulations and good luck in your marriage.

Thanks for the good wishes. With respect to your other words, you forget that you no longer have any credibility to make such accusations:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33620

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:51 am

Rashmun wrote:

Thanks for the good wishes. With respect to your other words, you forget that you no longer have any credibility to make such accusations:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33620

Iteration #3.

Two more posts and your CLAIMS will become Gospel in your mind.

Marriage tip: Assuming whatever you can think of to be real and convincing yourself that those are then irrevocable facts will destroy trust in a marriage - very fast.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:02 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Thanks for the good wishes. With respect to your other words, you forget that you no longer have any credibility to make such accusations:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33620

Iteration #3.

Two more posts and your CLAIMS will become Gospel in your mind.

Marriage tip: Assuming whatever you can think of to be real and convincing yourself that those are then irrevocable facts will destroy trust in a marriage - very fast.

--> In that chat discussion you had mentioned that your father disrespects hinduism for the very same reason that Merlot does. Would you care to elaborate on this? I recall you saying on CH that according to your father widows were historically treated badly in Hinduism.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:04 am

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Thanks for the good wishes. With respect to your other words, you forget that you no longer have any credibility to make such accusations:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33620

Iteration #3.

Two more posts and your CLAIMS will become Gospel in your mind.

Marriage tip: Assuming whatever you can think of to be real and convincing yourself that those are then irrevocable facts will destroy trust in a marriage - very fast.

--> In that chat discussion you had mentioned that your father disrespects hinduism for the very same reason that Merlot does. Would you care to elaborate on this? I recall you saying on CH that according to your father widows were historically treated badly in Hinduism.

--> Three people were there when you made the claim about Merlot: you, me, and Kinnera. When she read the content of my post, Kinnera knew my handle because it was only the three of us:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33583

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:29 am

Rashmun wrote:
--> In that chat discussion you had mentioned that your father disrespects hinduism for the very same reason that Merlot does. Would you care to elaborate on this? I recall you saying on CH that according to your father widows were historically treated badly in Hinduism.

~~https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33583~~ just bcz you can MAKE a link out of anything that does not become evidence[/quote]

I only recall talking about Merlot. May be my memory is fading. So if you can cut paste the Exact screen, I will try to explain. Your word is not worth the Goat shyt and Merlot's is not valid as he is a hindu hater.

Since you advocate(d) inter-caste marriage, why did you go the extent of claiming your Brahmin caste to marry a Brahmin girl? Can we call you a hypocrtite ? Why not ?

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:32 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
--> In that chat discussion you had mentioned that your father disrespects hinduism for the very same reason that Merlot does. Would you care to elaborate on this? I recall you saying on CH that according to your father widows were historically treated badly in Hinduism.

~~https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33583~~ just bcz you can MAKE a link out of anything that does not become evidence

I only recall talking about Merlot. May be my memory is fading. So if you can cut paste the Exact screen, I will try to explain. Your word is not worth the Goat shyt and Merlot's is not valid as he is a hindu hater.

Since you advocate(d) inter-caste marriage, why did you go the extent of claiming your Brahmin caste to marry a Brahmin girl? Can we call you a hypocrtite ? Why not ?

[/quote]

--> Do you also deny claiming on CH that your father has a poor opinion of hinduism because of the way widows have been historically treated in hinduism? As i recall, your father also had a poor opinion of the caste system. Could you confirm this?

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:35 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
--> In that chat discussion you had mentioned that your father disrespects hinduism for the very same reason that Merlot does. Would you care to elaborate on this? I recall you saying on CH that according to your father widows were historically treated badly in Hinduism.

~~https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33583~~ just bcz you can MAKE a link out of anything that does not become evidence

I only recall talking about Merlot. May be my memory is fading. So if you can cut paste the Exact screen, I will try to explain. Your word is not worth the Goat shyt and Merlot's is not valid as he is a hindu hater.

Since you advocate(d) inter-caste marriage, why did you go the extent of claiming your Brahmin caste to marry a Brahmin girl? Can we call you a hypocrtite ? Why not ?

[/quote]

--> There is actually one person who has access to the Exact Screen. That person is Charvaka. If you have nothing to hide, i suggest you request him to post the exact transcript here so that we can all form our own conclusions.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:57 am

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Since you advocate(d) inter-caste marriage, why did you go the extent of claiming your Brahmin caste to marry a Brahmin girl? Can we call you a hypocrtite ? Why not ?

Since YOU started this thread and it is about caste and YOUR marriage, let us deal with yout caste and marriage in this thread and deal with the merlot issue in your other thread.

So why are you marrying a same caste Brahmin woman instead of a non-brahmin as you have been preaching forever?

Be honest and accept you were just lying about your "principles" and you are just a normal casteist UPwala. If not what is the reason for being so casteist?

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:01 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Since you advocate(d) inter-caste marriage, why did you go the extent of claiming your Brahmin caste to marry a Brahmin girl? Can we call you a hypocrtite ? Why not ?

Since YOU started this thread and it is about caste and YOUR marriage, let us deal with yout caste and marriage in this thread and deal with the merlot issue in your other thread.

So why are you marrying a same caste Brahmin woman instead of a non-brahmin as you have been preaching forever?

Be honest and accept you were just lying about your "principles" and you are just a normal casteist UPwala. If not what is the reason for being so casteist?

--> Sorry, you butted in making all kinds of accusations against me--calling me jehadi and so forth--so i had to point to the Merlot thread to make it clear that you now have zero credibility to make the kinds of accusations which you have been making in the past.

--> I see no reason to respond to you about my love life. After all, i am not probing your married life.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:12 am

Rashmun wrote:
Since YOU started this thread and it is about caste and YOUR marriage, let us deal with yout caste and marriage in this thread and deal with the merlot issue in your other thread.

So why are you marrying a same caste Brahmin woman instead of a non-brahmin as you have been preaching forever?

Be honest and accept you were just lying about your "principles" and you are just a normal casteist UPwala. If not what is the reason for being so casteist?

--> I see no reason to respond to you about my love life. After all, i am not probing your married life.[/quote]

Again you are putting your foot in the mouth. You are the one who started THIS thread about Caste and YOUR marriage...not me or any one else.

Never mind. I will take it that you are a hypocrite and a liar that preached inter-caste marriage with no sincerity while practicing perfect casteism. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

That is enough for all of us.

by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:18 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Since YOU started this thread and it is about caste and YOUR marriage, let us deal with yout caste and marriage in this thread and deal with the merlot issue in your other thread.

So why are you marrying a same caste Brahmin woman instead of a non-brahmin as you have been preaching forever?

Be honest and accept you were just lying about your "principles" and you are just a normal casteist UPwala. If not what is the reason for being so casteist?

--> I see no reason to respond to you about my love life. After all, i am not probing your married life.

Again you are putting your foot in the mouth. You are the one who started THIS thread about Caste and YOUR marriage...not me or any one else.

Never mind. I will take it that you are a hypocrite and a liar that preached inter-caste marriage with no sincerity while practicing perfect casteism. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

That is enough for all of us.[/quote]

The point is that i am not prepared to take questions about my marriage. What i say and how much i say about my marriage is upto me. Your calling me 'hypocrite' and 'liar' and 'jehadi' etc. makes no difference to me since you have now been exposed:

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili

https://such.forumotion.com/t4139-overheard-on-chaikaapi-chat-merlot-and-uppili#33620

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