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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:20 am

Insisting that LTTE supremo Velupillai Prabhakaran was a "creation" of his supporters, a former Tiger commander and now a pro-government MP has claimed the rebel leader never came to the battlefield to fight.

Insisting that Tamils in the Island nation do not want a separate state but equal rights, Karuna Amman alias V Muralitharan said Prabhakaran did not do anything for Tamils.

"Prabhakaran is a creation. Some of the leaders including myself had created Prabhakaran. When we were winning the battle Prabhakaran become more popular. He never came to the battlefront or to meet the people," Karuna told the state run Sunday Observer.

Karuna alias Vinayagamoorthy Muralitharan split from Prabhakaran towards the end of 2004 and formed the Tamil Makkal Viduthalai Pulikal (TMVP) party that now heads the coalition government in Eastern Province.

"I motivated the cadres as well as the people. I have already told the people in the East I need their support to destroy Prabhakaran. We should do that because he did not do anything for the Tamils in the country," he said.

In reply to a query on whether the Tamils in Sri Lanka desired a separate nation, Karuna said :"it is equal rights that Tamils need to enjoy. Tamils do not want separate country or political rights but need the benefits that Colombo people enjoy. They need development, peaceful life, education and entertainment".

"Today no politician can mislead the Tamils. They suffered for the last three decades," Karuna said.

On whether he apprehended that the IDP camps in Vavuniya would be turned into concentration camps, Karuna blamed "pro-LTTE elements" for spreading such fears.

"LTTE sympathisers still want to make these allegations to mislead the international community. These IDPs need to be protected, not from anyone else, but from Prabhakaran," he said, accusing the LTTE leader of "torturing Tamils more than Hitler did to the Jews.

"There is no doubt, a tight security system is needed to protect them as well as to stop LTTE infiltration. Those who talk about the proposed camps should never forget Prabhakaran's human bombs sent to kill IDPs. The government has a good plan for resettlement of IDPs," Karuna said.

On the reasons for the success of the present government against LTTE, Karuna hailed the successful policies of president Mahinda Rajapaksa, saying the earlier governments fought the LTTE "to get political mileage".

"President Rajapaksa never expected anything from Prabhakaran and he invited the LTTE for negotiations, but when Prabhakaran was becoming more of a problem, the president banned the LTTE as a terrorist movement," Karuna said.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_prabhakaran-never-came-to-the-battlefield-karuna_1235254

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:53 am

Q: But wasn’t that obvious, at the time he was killed that the Army was closing in, and capture was, in fact, a very real possibility?

A: Yes, but I think he would have wanted to go on fighting. He is a coward, make no mistake. I will call him a coward because he held over a 100,000 Tamil people as hostages. Although he purported to be fighting for the Tamil cause, he achieved nothing for the Tamil people. All he succeeded in doing was inflicting pain and suffering and misery on the Tamil people. And his final act was to hold more than 100,000 Tamils –
some of the poorest and most innocent people in Sri Lanka, as hostages. This is an unpardonable crime which he has committed. Not only Prabhakaran, but any LTTE leader, including Kumaran Padhmanathan, should be tried for War Crimes, for what they did there in the safe zone. So there is nothing heroic about Prabhakaran.
More than 60 percent of his fighters were below 16 years old. These were impressionable youth who might have become doctors, engineers or accountants if they were allowed to grow up. He recruited them and sent them to their death. So he is a terrorist monster and a remorseless man.


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Post by MulaiAzhagi Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:42 pm

http://www.pvtr.org/pdf/ICPVTRinNews/InabilityToSustainLuxuriousLifeStyle.pdf


===> First the man says "Gotabhaya Rajapaksa and his three commanders have no fear of death."


Later he contradicts himself: ".. there is no being in this world, even an animal, who is not afraid of death. Certainly, even in Prabhakaran there would have been fear."

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:28 pm

MulaiAzhagi wrote:http://www.pvtr.org/pdf/ICPVTRinNews/InabilityToSustainLuxuriousLifeStyle.pdf


===> First the man says "Gotabhaya Rajapaksa and his three commanders have no fear of death."


Later he contradicts himself: ".. there is no being in this world, even an animal, who is not afraid of death. Certainly, even in Prabhakaran there would have been fear."

This Karuna is no angel either. He is now a politician and will continue screwing the tamils in a democratic way.

The only guys who were democratic and also "reasonably" caring for the tamils were the TULF, who at one time was the main opposition party (briefly). Pirabhakaran finished off TULF and Amirthalingam. That was when the tamils came closest to anything like equal "human rights"

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:19 pm

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:47 pm

karuna is, from what i can make out, a scoundrel, and so was Prabhakaran.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:50 pm

From BBC News

"Under his leadership, the Tamil Tigers became one of the world's most highly disciplined and highly motivated guerrilla forces.

Prabhakaran dedicated his life to his dream of a Tamil homeland

In 1975 he was accused of the murder of the mayor of Jaffna, who was shot at point blank range while he was about to enter a Hindu temple. The killing was said to be in response to an incident in Jaffna the previous year when a police attack on a crowd led to the deaths of about seven people.

At the height of its powers at the end of the 1990s and the early years of this decade, the LTTE controlled nearly one-third of Sri Lanka.

his demand for self-determination for Tamils and said he was prepared to die in the fight to achieve it.

His single-minded determination in pursuit of his goal never wavered: he once claimed he had ordered his own men to shoot him if he ever gave up his demands for a Tamil state.

One of his sons, Charles, was reported to have been killed in fighting a few days before Prabhakaran himself died."

Note: He sacrificed his entire family for his country. A true Tamil god - ellaith theyvam.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:03 pm

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TgpxEOM7_c8/Sf-2Ge0DXwI/AAAAAAAAAUk/ctk4oySkMKU/s1600-h/ForUSForHim7+.jpg

Left side of these two photos shows a LTTE woman soldier and a child soldier. Right picture shows the LTTE leader Prabhakaran's daughter Dhavaraga. Look in the first photo of these two, what Prabhakaran has given to these women soldiers to wear in the neck is a Cyanide capsule. But what he has given for his daughter is a Perl necklace. While those young girls in his terrorist organization hold AK47 guns in their hands, what his daughter holds in her hand is a nice rose flower. See the difference. See how the so called leader of the freedom fighters treats his family and his own people who he says to liberate and represent. While thousands of Tamil children were forcefully dragged from schools to join his terrorist organization, his children went abroad to learn in foreign universities.
LTTE is a ruthless terrorist organization built on heaps of lies and try to deceive international community and Tamil diaspora by those lies and try to justify their crimes using those lies. They have created lot of pains to Tamil people. They have killed almost all of Tamil intellectuals who stands for democracy and who refuse violent actions of LTTE. They have prevented getting education by those Tamil children in North & Eastern of Sri Lanka. All Tamil peoples in those regions had to live in a hell like environment and with the fear that any moment LTTE will kidnap their loving children to use as child soldiers.

http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/2009/05/children-of-ltte-leader-and-ltte-child.html


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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:31 pm

Dhavaraga's photo could be photoshopped. We know she fought in battles and died in the battlefield not in some luxury hotel abroad. His eldest son led the final offensive against the Sinhala army knowing verey well it was the last stand. He died as a hero.

There is no evidence Commander's children studied abroad. He could have sent his famiky abroad as war intensified. He did not. He said their place is with the people. Even at the very end of the war, his supporters abroad wanted him to leave Tamil Eelam and go to Eriteria. He refused and died as one of the greatest commanders of all time.

By the way your hero Karunan Amman sent his family abroad and cohorted with assorted Sinhala sluts and whores. He did not leave LTTE. He was dismissed because he would not go to Killinochi to face an inquiry into questyionable financial transactions.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:35 pm

Commander's youngest son (13 years) shot and killed at point blank by Rasmun's hero Rajapaksa army

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:37 pm

Commander's family

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:38 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:Dhavaraga's photo could be photoshopped. We know she fought in battles and died in the battlefield not in some luxury hotel abroad. His eldest son led the final offensive against the Sinhala army knowing verey well it was the last stand. He died as a hero.

There is no evidence Commander's children studied abroad. He could have sent his famiky abroad as war intensified. He did not. He said their place is with the people. Even at the very end of the war, his supporters abroad wanted him to leave Tamil Eelam and go to Eriteria. He refused and died as one of the greatest commanders of all time.

By the way your hero Karunan Amman sent his family abroad and cohorted with assorted Sinhala sluts and whores. He did not leave LTTE. He was dismissed because he would not go to Killinochi to face an inquiry into questyionable financial transactions.

i have already said that as per my observation Karuna comes across as a scoundrel. And so does Prabhakaran.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:40 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:Commander's youngest son (13 years) shot and killed at point blank by Rasmun's hero Rajapaksa army


what about the hundreds of thousands of young tamil kids who were indoctrinated and made child soldiers by Prabhakaran, and the Sinhalese kids who were killed or made orphans by the barbaric Prabhakaran. any tamil leader who wanted peace was quickly killed by this butcher.


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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:40 pm

In the above photo you see commander's mother. After the war, this old woman wanted to come to Tamil Nadu for medical treatment. The Hindian government immigration officers turned her back at the Chennai airport saying she was a threat to India.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:42 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:In the above photo you see commander's mother. After the war, this old woman wanted to come to Tamil Nadu for medical treatment. The Hindian government immigration officers turned her back at the Chennai airport saying she was a threat to India.

Slain Tamil Tiger leader V Prabhakaran’s mother passed away in a government hospital in Jaffna on Sunday. Parvati Pillai, 81, had multiple health problems and had been in a hospital in a town called Valvettithurai for several months. Her health further deteriorated in the last five weeks after she sank into depression and stopped eating. Reason: though helping financially, her three remaining children – in Denmark, Canada and India -- are not ready to visit Sri Lanka.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/SriLanka/Prabhakaran-s-mother-dead/Article1-664790.aspx

Looks like Prabhakaran took good care of his family while making tamil kids child soldiers.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:46 pm

>> her three remaining children – in Denmark, Canada and India -- are not ready to visit Sri Lanka.

Because Lankan military would kill them. There is no need to sacrifice themselves.

The great Tamil poet Perunsiththiranar's grand daughter visited her in hospital. Later Lankan military arrested her. Hindian gov did nothing. Chennai bar council (she is a lawyer) raised lots of voice and Lankans released her.



Rasmun,

What do you think of your gov refusing permission for a old, sick lady to get treatment in TN hospital saying she was a threat to India? Why are you silent? Do you condemn it?

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:50 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> her three remaining children – in Denmark, Canada and India -- are not ready to visit Sri Lanka.

Because Lankan military would kill them. There is no need to sacrifice themselves.

The great Tamil poet Perunsiththiranar's grand daughter visited her in hospital. Later Lankan military arrested her. Hindian gov did nothing. Chennai bar council (she is a lawyer) raised lots of voice and Lankans released her.


why did many of Prabhakaran's family members and relatives not fight along with the LTTE child soldiers? Because they would rather sacrifice the lives of young Tamil children, child soldiers, rather than themselves.

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Post by truthbetold Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:46 pm

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=5dmwtnQBkLk
stop fighting and enjoy a little.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:26 pm

[quote="Rashmun]why did many of Prabhakaran's family members and relatives not fight along with the LTTE child soldiers? Because they would rather sacrifice the lives of young Tamil children, child soldiers, rather than themselves.[/quote]

All his family members, except thye 13 year old son fought and died. The 13 year old boy was mudered by shooting point blank by your hero Rajapaksa's army.

Rashmun, you did not answer me. Do you condemn your gov for not allowing a old, sick woman to a hospital in TN for treatrment saying she was a threat to India? Do you? Yes or No.

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Post by Kris Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:30 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:[quote="Rashmun]why did many of Prabhakaran's family members and relatives not fight along with the LTTE child soldiers? Because they would rather sacrifice the lives of young Tamil children, child soldiers, rather than themselves.

All his family members, except thye 13 year old son fought and died. The 13 year old boy was mudered by shooting point blank by your hero Rajapaksa's army.

Rashmun, you did not answer me. Do you condemn your gov for not allowing a old, sick woman to a hospital in TN for treatrment saying she was a threat to India? Do you? Yes or No.[/quote]



>>.Speaking of unaswered questions, are you KV a member of the LTTE? yes or no?

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:39 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:[quote="Rashmun]why did many of Prabhakaran's family members and relatives not fight along with the LTTE child soldiers? Because they would rather sacrifice the lives of young Tamil children, child soldiers, rather than themselves.

All his family members, except thye 13 year old son fought and died. The 13 year old boy was mudered by shooting point blank by your hero Rajapaksa's army.

Rashmun, you did not answer me. Do you condemn your gov for not allowing a old, sick woman to a hospital in TN for treatrment saying she was a threat to India? Do you? Yes or No.[/quote]

why are you lying? earlier in this thread, i gave a news item saying that Prabhakaran's siblings are in canada, denmark, and india and you said that it is good they are not coming to sri lanka because they would get killed. is their life more precious than the lives of the hundreds of thousands of indoctrinated child soldiers who sacrificed their lives for the sake of Prabhakaran's fantasies.



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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:42 pm

>> are you KV a member of the LTTE? yes or no?

NO. Infact I criticized LTTE in early 2009 here or in Sulekha where we all wrere that time.

You answer my question. I repeating what I asked twice before. and you did not answer me. Do you condemn your gov for not allowing a old, sick woman to a hospital in TN for treatrment saying she was a threat to India? Yes or No

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Post by Kris Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:49 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> are you KV a member of the LTTE? yes or no?

NO. Infact I criticized LTTE in early 2009 here or in Sulekha where we all wrere that time.

You answer my question. I repeating what I asked twice before. and you did not answer me. Do you condemn your gov for not allowing a old, sick woman to a hospital in TN for treatrment saying she was a threat to India? Yes or No



>>>Whom did you ask this question to? Who was the sick old woman? If you are not an LTTE member, why do you want to overlook their atrocities? I pointed out one, namely the child soldiers.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:50 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:
Rashmun wrote:why did many of Prabhakaran's family members and relatives not fight along with the LTTE child soldiers? Because they would rather sacrifice the lives of young Tamil children, child soldiers, rather than themselves.

All his family members, except thye 13 year old son fought and died. The 13 year old boy was mudered by shooting point blank by your hero Rajapaksa's army.

Rashmun, you did not answer me. Do you condemn your gov for not allowing a old, sick woman to a hospital in TN for treatrment saying she was a threat to India? Do you? Yes or No.

why are you lying? earlier in this thread, i gave a news item saying that Prabhakaran's siblings are in canada, denmark, and india and you said that it is good they are not coming to sri lanka because they would get killed. is their life more precious than the lives of the hundreds of thousands of indoctrinated child soldiers who sacrificed their lives for the sake of Prabhakaran's fantasies?


KV please answer my question.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:00 pm

I answered your question. You refuse to answer my question. Bye.

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Post by Kris Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:04 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:I answered your question. You refuse to answer my question. Bye.



>>>A follow up question: are you okay with the political assassinations of Rajiv Gandhi and Lakshman Kadirgamar by the LTTE, to name just a couple?

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:08 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:I answered your question. You refuse to answer my question. Bye.

you never answered my question about why Prabhakaran's siblings continue to live in denmark and canada and India even as their brother was indoctrinating and sending hundreds of thousands of children to their deaths after making them child soldiers . with respect to your question the answer is that although Prabhakaran's mother was initially denied entry into India by the govt. later on she was allowed entry after her medical condition was confirmed:

http://news.oneindia.in/2010/05/10/center-allows-prabhakarans-mom-to-come-to-tn.html

this shows the humanity and magnanimity of the indian govt. even though Prabhakaran was responsible for the death of a former Indian PM, the indian govt. did not take revenge against his mother for his misdeed.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:12 pm

>> the answer is that although Prabhakaran's mother was initially denied entry into India by the govt.

Do you condemn your gov for this and spit on Manmohan? Two questions there. Answer yes or no to each.

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Post by Kris Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:15 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> the answer is that although Prabhakaran's mother was initially denied entry into India by the govt.

Do you condemn your gov for this and spit on Manmohan? Two questions there. Answer yes or no to each.



>>>> You are still dodging the question: Rajiv Gandhi assasination is okay by you? Yes or no?

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:16 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> the answer is that although Prabhakaran's mother was initially denied entry into India by the govt.

Do you condemn your gov for this and spit on Manmohan? Two questions there. Answer yes or no to each.

she was probably denied entry into India initially because her medical condition was unconfirmed. Also she was denied entry by the immigration dept. Manmohan had nothing to do with the decision. I answered your question, but because you are inherently a coward and a fraud you refuse to answer my question and also the questions of Kris.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:27 pm

i already answered your question. If you have a new question post it. No nonsense. Real questions.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:31 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:I answered your question. You refuse to answer my question. Bye.

you never answered my question about why Prabhakaran's siblings continue to live in denmark and canada and India even as their brother was indoctrinating and sending hundreds of thousands of children to their deaths after making them child soldiers . with respect to your question the answer is that although Prabhakaran's mother was initially denied entry into India by the govt. later on she was allowed entry after her medical condition was confirmed:

http://news.oneindia.in/2010/05/10/center-allows-prabhakarans-mom-to-come-to-tn.html

this shows the humanity and magnanimity of the indian govt. even though Prabhakaran was responsible for the death of a former Indian PM, the indian govt. did not take revenge against his mother for his misdeed.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:41 pm

Commander cannot order his elder siblings to do this or that. They do what they want.

He sacrificed his entire family (him, wife, two sons, 1 daughter) for his country. I cannot ask anyone more than that. Actually it was too much.

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Post by Ponniyin Selvan Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:12 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> the answer is that although Prabhakaran's mother was initially denied entry into India by the govt.

Do you condemn your gov for this and spit on Manmohan? Two questions there. Answer yes or no to each.

KV,

I'm not sure what your point is. Hindians and their supporters are not going to answer that they have a bloody hand in the war crimes against Sri lankan Tamils. What do you expect?.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:31 pm

>> I'm not sure what your point is.

Idid not say what I said for people like you who know what happened. It was for "Indians" who really do not know the blood in "their" hands.

The following is for people who think India did not play a role or it did not know the wholesale slaughter of Tamils.

Indian military officers wre present at the battlefront. Indian satellites photographed the war zone. SL president and his brother said many many times "India knew what we are doing".

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Post by Ponniyin Selvan Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:44 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> I'm not sure what your point is.

Idid not say what I said for people like you who know what happened. It was for "Indians" who really do not know the blood in "their" hands.

The following is for people who think India did not play a role or it did not know the wholesale slaughter of Tamils.

Indian military officers wre present at the battlefront. Indian satellites photographed the war zone. SL president and his brother said many many times "India knew what we are doing".

I think everyone knows. What else do you expect from Sonia Gandhi's government?. She can't go soft on her husband's killer and took her revenge by actively participating in the genocide of Sri lankan Tamils.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:23 pm

In 2009, when the parliamentary polls in India were announced, the Manmohan Singh government demanded that President Rajapaksa halt the military offensive against the LTTE. This "request" became insistent just a week befoire the capture and killing of LTTE supremo Prabhakaran, when a team of officials from Delhi was sent to Colombo to attempt a forced ceasefire that would allow LTTE supremo Velupillai Prabhakaran and his organisation to escape annihilation.

As he had done with similar requests from the EU, Rajapaksa ignored the Indian advice, calling off the campaign only after the destruction of the LTTE and the killing of Prabhakaran and his close associates. He threw a fig leaf in the direction of Delhi, halting the use of mortars and heavy artillery two days before Prabhakaran was killed on May 19, 2009.

http://www.gatewayhouse.in/publication/gateway-house/features/how-sri-lanka-slipped-china’s-orbit

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:25 pm

Under Rajapaksa, a campaign was quietly launched to burnish the reputation of the army, and within a year of taking office, an overall increase of 300,000 in the strength of the Sri Lankan army was approved, of which 50,000 were to be recruited "immediately." It was then that requests were sent to India for weapons and equipment - and when this was turned down, Pakistan was asked to fill the gap, which Islamabad (and its ally Beijing) did immediately and with zest.

http://www.gatewayhouse.in/publication/gateway-house/features/how-sri-lanka-slipped-china’s-orbit

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:29 pm

Each time the Sri Lankan army pushed the LTTE into a corner, professional peacemakers stepped in and halted military operations, giving the LTTE time to recover and once again emerge as a deadly force.

This time around, Rajapaksa turned a deaf year to the peaceniks in the EU, India and the US, all of whom were united in asking that he declare a cease-fire. Instead,he publicly assured the armed forces that this time around, he would not stop "until the LTTE was eliminated."

http://www.gatewayhouse.in/publication/gateway-house/features/how-sri-lanka-slipped-china’s-orbit

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Post by Hellsangel Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:50 pm

Silly Tamils!
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:52 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Silly Tamils! LTTE supporters

*corrected*

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Post by Idéfix Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:24 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:He sacrificed his entire family for his country. A true Tamil god - ellaith theyvam.
Prabhakaran was not a god, he was a mass murderer. He enslaved children and committed war crimes. As did the Sri Lankan army under the Rajapaksa brothers. The victims of both sets of murderers were poor Tamil folk.
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:21 pm

panini press wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:He sacrificed his entire family for his country. A true Tamil god - ellaith theyvam.
Prabhakaran was not a god, he was a mass murderer. He enslaved children and committed war crimes. As did the Sri Lankan army under the Rajapaksa brothers. The victims of both sets of murderers were poor Tamil folk.

did the Sri Lankan army also make children child soldiers? The fact that the ordinary tamils died when the battle between the sri lankan army and the LTTE took place was unfortunate but inevitable. Prabhakaran was not willing to accept anything less than independence of the northern and eastern parts of Sri Lanka.

Rajapaksa brothers need to be congratulated for freeing their country from decades of terrorist violence.

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Post by Idéfix Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:48 pm

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon appointed a panel of experts to study the allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war. The report states:

The Panel's determination of credible allegations reveals a very different version of the final stages of the war than that maintained to this day by the Government of Sri Lanka. The Government says it pursued a "humanitarian rescue operation" with a policy of "zero civilian casualties." In stark contrast, the Panel found credible allegations, which if proven, indicate that a wide range of serious violations of international humanitarian law and international human rights law was committed both by the Government of Sri Lanka and the LTTE, some of which would amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The Sri Lanka Army advanced its military campaign into the Vanni using large-scale and widespread shelling, causing large numbers of civilian deaths. This campaign constituted persecution of the population of the Vanni.

The Government shelled on a large scale in three consecutive No Fire Zones, where it had encouraged the civilian population to concentrate, even after indicating that it would cease the use of heavy weapons. It shelled the United Nations hub, food distribution lines and near the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) ships that were coming to pick up the wounded and their relatives from the beaches. It shelled in spite of its knowledge of the impact, provided by its own intelligence systems and through notification by the United Nations, the ICRC and others. Most civilian casualties in the final phases of the war were caused by Government shelling.

The Government systematically shelled hospitals on the frontlines. All hospitals in the Vanni were hit by mortars and artillery, some of them were hit repeatedly, despite the fact that their locations were well-known to the Government.

This, in conclusion, the Panel found credible allegations that comprise five core categories of potential serious violations committed by the Government of Sri Lanka: (i) killing of civilians through widespread shelling; (ii) shelling of hospitals and humanitarian objects; (iii) denial of humanitarian assistance; (iv) human rights violations suffered by victims and survivors of the conflict, including both IDPs and suspected LTTE cadre; and (v) human rights violations outside the conflict zone, including against the media and other critics of the Government.

The Panel has concluded that the Government's notion of accountability is not in accordance with international standards. Unless the Government genuinely addresses the allegations of violations committed by both sides and places the rights and dignity of the victims of the conflict at the center of its approach to accountability, its measures will fall dramatically short of international expectations.

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Post by Idéfix Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Rashmun wrote:did the Sri Lankan army also make children child soldiers?
Yes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1534152/Sri-Lanka-army-is-accused-of-recruiting-child-soldiers-for-rebel-group.html
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:00 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:did the Sri Lankan army also make children child soldiers?
Yes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1534152/Sri-Lanka-army-is-accused-of-recruiting-child-soldiers-for-rebel-group.html

a mere accusation, not definite proof. furthermore, the accusation is confined to eastern sri lanka where the former LTTE commander Karuna (who later crossed over to the side of the Rajapaksa brothers) was in control. it is entirely possible that Karuna or his subordinates were continuing the LTTE practice of recruiting child soldiers without the knowledge of the Rajapaksa brothers.

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Post by Idéfix Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:12 pm

Rashmun wrote:commander Karuna (who later crossed over to the side of the Rajapaksa brothers) was in control.
From the article I linked above, in the British newspaper The Telegraph:

The United Nations has accused Sri Lanka's security forces of helping to recruit child soldiers for a break-away faction of the Tamil separatist movement.

Allan Rock, the special adviser to the UN Representative for Children and Armed Conflict, said that government soldiers had been rounding up young Tamil children in the east of the country.

Last year the Tamil Tigers, who have been fighting a 25-year separatist war, split into two, with the break-away wing being led by Colonel "Karuna", a former commander from the eastern district of Batticaloa.

Rashmun wrote:without the knowledge of the Rajapaksa brothers.

"The complicity of the [Sri Lankan government] security forces with the Karuna group is common knowledge. It corrodes respect for rule of law and creates space for more abductions of children," Mr Rock said.

He was speaking after raising the issue with Sri Lanka's hardline president, Mahinda Rajapakse, whose 18 months in office have been marked by a gradual slide towards all-out war.

Mr Rajapakse has promised an inquiry.
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:20 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:commander Karuna (who later crossed over to the side of the Rajapaksa brothers) was in control.
From the article I linked above, in the British newspaper The Telegraph:

The United Nations has accused Sri Lanka's security forces of helping to recruit child soldiers for a break-away faction of the Tamil separatist movement.

Allan Rock, the special adviser to the UN Representative for Children and Armed Conflict, said that government soldiers had been rounding up young Tamil children in the east of the country.

Last year the Tamil Tigers, who have been fighting a 25-year separatist war, split into two, with the break-away wing being led by Colonel "Karuna", a former commander from the eastern district of Batticaloa.

Rashmun wrote:without the knowledge of the Rajapaksa brothers.

"The complicity of the [Sri Lankan government] security forces with the Karuna group is common knowledge. It corrodes respect for rule of law and creates space for more abductions of children," Mr Rock said.

He was speaking after raising the issue with Sri Lanka's hardline president, Mahinda Rajapakse, whose 18 months in office have been marked by a gradual slide towards all-out war.

Mr Rajapakse has promised an inquiry.

it is delusionary to think that complicity of govt forces with the Karuna group corrodes respect for the rule of law. Rajapaksa deserves credit for successfully weaning away an important LTTE faction which resulted in a much weakened LTTE. Since Rajapaksa refused to listen to these idiotic peacemakers who were trying to get a ceasefire to take place, and successfully carried out the extermination of the LTTE, these fools naturally are suffering from a case of sour milk. Because they were ignored by Rajapaksa.

The point is that when an army goes into a region where killings are occurring regularly, it is natural that some atrocities will be committed. This is true for any army, not just Sri Lankan army.


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