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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:57 pm

http://sulekha.forumotion.com/t147-remembering-jaspal-bhatti#288

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:49 pm

you should also spend sometime convincing remaining sulekha users to join SuCH.

you dont seriously expect people to talk about same things in two different forums, do you?

bring ts,qb,kripa, sandaliya and other kids here if you wanna exercise your persuasive skills.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:52 pm

seven wrote:you should also spend sometime convincing remaining sulekha users to join SuCH.

you dont seriously expect people to talk about same things in two different forums, do you?

bring ts,qb,kripa, sandaliya and other kids here if you wanna exercise your persuasive skills.

http://sulekha.forumotion.com is complimenting https://such.forumotion.com and http://rivr.sulekha.com and not competing with them. There are so many other forums and i myself post in various forums.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:59 pm

why are you getting so defensive? i didn't say its competing. but there's already a thread on jaspal bhatti on this forum. why would you expect us to discuss him on another forum? and i mean among the same set of people. almost.

on other forums, like reddit for example, there are other people and different views etc. so its ok to mayb remember him there once.

now pls bring the missing people to this forum so we can all talk about flop show. all in one place.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:05 pm

seven wrote:why are you getting so defensive? i didn't say its competing. but there's already a thread on jaspal bhatti on this forum. why would you expect us to discuss him on another forum? and i mean among the same set of people. almost.

on other forums, like reddit for example, there are other people and different views etc. so its ok to mayb remember him there once.

now pls bring the missing people to this forum so we can all talk about flop show. all in one place.

the bhatti thread on http://sulekha.forumotion.com is very different. in that thread, specific instances of Bhatti's social satire are given. That is the ultimate tribute you can give to any artist--celebrate his art.

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Post by southindian Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:18 pm

Rashmun wrote:http://sulekha.forumotion.com/t147-remembering-jaspal-bhatti#288

I clicked on your link above and saw 3 people posting on your article.

You, Chunmun and Munmun were passionately engaged in discussion remembering Bhatti.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:20 pm

southindian wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://sulekha.forumotion.com/t147-remembering-jaspal-bhatti#288

I clicked on your link above and saw 3 people posting on your article.

You, Chunmun and Munmun were passionately engaged in discussion remembering Bhatti.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:44 pm

Rashmun wrote:
seven wrote:why are you getting so defensive? i didn't say its competing. but there's already a thread on jaspal bhatti on this forum. why would you expect us to discuss him on another forum? and i mean among the same set of people. almost.

on other forums, like reddit for example, there are other people and different views etc. so its ok to mayb remember him there once.

now pls bring the missing people to this forum so we can all talk about flop show. all in one place.

the bhatti thread on http://sulekha.forumotion.com is very different. in that thread, specific instances of Bhatti's social satire are given. That is the ultimate tribute you can give to any artist--celebrate his art.

and why can't that be posted here? no one else is posting there anyway. complimenting or not, it's too much work posting on two similar looking websites. and confusing. i know if i started posting on both sites, i'll forget where i wrote what and may repeat stuff on the same forum. it will be very boring. i thot qb n ts et al were discussing there but they're not. so why can't u celebrate art on the JB thread here?

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:47 pm

seven wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
seven wrote:why are you getting so defensive? i didn't say its competing. but there's already a thread on jaspal bhatti on this forum. why would you expect us to discuss him on another forum? and i mean among the same set of people. almost.

on other forums, like reddit for example, there are other people and different views etc. so its ok to mayb remember him there once.

now pls bring the missing people to this forum so we can all talk about flop show. all in one place.

the bhatti thread on http://sulekha.forumotion.com is very different. in that thread, specific instances of Bhatti's social satire are given. That is the ultimate tribute you can give to any artist--celebrate his art.

and why can't that be posted here? no one else is posting there anyway. complimenting or not, it's too much work posting on two similar looking websites. and confusing. i know if i started posting on both sites, i'll forget where i wrote what and may repeat stuff on the same forum. it will be very boring. i thot qb n ts et al were discussing there but they're not. so why can't u celebrate art on the JB thread here?

QB is in fact posting on that forum. She prefers not to post here. Personally i prefer to post in various forums so that i can interact with as many people as possible.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:02 pm

Personally i prefer to post in various forums so that i can interact with as many people as possible.


then you should do just that! visit different forums and talk to as many people as you can.

why invite same people that you are interacting with on one forum to interact with them on a different forum? (hint: you don't have to answer me. it's a rhetorical question.)

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:14 pm

seven wrote:
Personally i prefer to post in various forums so that i can interact with as many people as possible.


then you should do just that! visit different forums and talk to as many people as you can.

why invite same people that you are interacting with on one forum to interact with them on a different forum? (hint: you don't have to answer me. it's a rhetorical question.)

because i would enjoy observing the interaction of member X of a forum i visit with member Y of another forum i visit if i have enjoyed interacting with both X and Y.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:43 pm

Rashmun wrote:http://sulekha.forumotion.com/t147-remembering-jaspal-bhatti#288

wait...i clicked on the link above and was confused where i was. Both the sites are exactly similar except that I saw qb on the right side under latest topics on one and panini press in the other. Took me while to realize that the other one was your forum and that you copied the format of this forum exactly. Why did you do that? got no originality?

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:50 pm

kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://sulekha.forumotion.com/t147-remembering-jaspal-bhatti#288

wait...i clicked on the link above and was confused where i was. Both the sites are exactly similar except that I saw qb on the right side under latest topics on one and panini press in the other. Took me while to realize that the other one was your forum and that you copied the format of this forum exactly. Why did you do that? got no originality?

Excuse me, this is a forumotion forum, not Charvaka's personal site. The forumotion site was not designed by Charvaka.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:56 pm

Rashmun wrote:
kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://sulekha.forumotion.com/t147-remembering-jaspal-bhatti#288

wait...i clicked on the link above and was confused where i was. Both the sites are exactly similar except that I saw qb on the right side under latest topics on one and panini press in the other. Took me while to realize that the other one was your forum and that you copied the format of this forum exactly. Why did you do that? got no originality?

Excuse me, this is a forumotion forum, not Charvaka's personal site. The forumotion site was not designed by Charvaka.

Do all forumotion sites look exactly like this?

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:07 pm

Rashmun wrote:Excuse me, this is a forumotion forum, not Charvaka's personal site. The forumotion site was not designed by Charvaka.
You did copy a logo that I had created. You removed the logo when I first mentioned it, and shamelessly restored it later.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:09 pm

Rashmun wrote:
seven wrote:you should also spend sometime convincing remaining sulekha users to join SuCH.

you dont seriously expect people to talk about same things in two different forums, do you?

bring ts,qb,kripa, sandaliya and other kids here if you wanna exercise your persuasive skills.

http://sulekha.forumotion.com is complimenting https://such.forumotion.com and http://rivr.sulekha.com and not competing with them. There are so many other forums and i myself post in various forums.

That's really nice of you.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:10 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Excuse me, this is a forumotion forum, not Charvaka's personal site. The forumotion site was not designed by Charvaka.
You did copy a logo that I had created. You removed the logo when I first mentioned it, and shamelessly restored it later.

If you were concerned about people not copying the logo you claim to have created you should not have kept the Indian national flag as your logo. I am as much of an Indian as you and the Indian flag is as dear to me as it is to you.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:11 pm

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Rashmun wrote:
seven wrote:you should also spend sometime convincing remaining sulekha users to join SuCH.

you dont seriously expect people to talk about same things in two different forums, do you?

bring ts,qb,kripa, sandaliya and other kids here if you wanna exercise your persuasive skills.

http://sulekha.forumotion.com is complimenting complementing https://such.forumotion.com and http://rivr.sulekha.com and not competing with them. There are so many other forums and i myself post in various forums.

That's really nice of you.

*Corrected*

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:13 pm

rashmun -like you understand qb doesnt want to post in this forum and not ask her to join, you should also quit asking people to post on sulekha.forumotion. if they want to post, they will.

add the site address in ur signature or something so anyone interested can find it easily.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:15 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Excuse me, this is a forumotion forum, not Charvaka's personal site. The forumotion site was not designed by Charvaka.
You did copy a logo that I had created. You removed the logo when I first mentioned it, and shamelessly restored it later.

If you were concerned about people not copying the logo you claim to have created you should not have kept the Indian national flag as your logo. I am as much of an Indian as you and the Indian flag is as dear to me as it is to you.
The Indian national flag is not the logo. The logo uses the flag as one of its design elements. The color, font, words, and the location and shape of the flag are all distinctive elements of the logo that were created by me.

Let me remind you of what someone called Rashmun said a while ago:

This would have been a valid criticism if the logo would have been designed by Charvaka. Except that it is not. The logo being used on the such.forumotion.com and http://sulekha.forumotion.com boards is taken from the chaikaapi forum.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2740-a-warning#23710

Now you do know that chaikaapi is my forum and the logo was designed by me. So you changed your tune. No surprises there.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:16 pm

seven wrote:rashmun -like you understand qb doesnt want to post in this forum and not ask her to join, you should also quit asking people to post on sulekha.forumotion. if they want to post, they will.

add the site address in ur signature or something so anyone interested can find it easily.

thanks but if there is an interesting thread on http://sulekha.forumotion.com i intend to post it here.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:19 pm

panini press wrote:
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panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Excuse me, this is a forumotion forum, not Charvaka's personal site. The forumotion site was not designed by Charvaka.
You did copy a logo that I had created. You removed the logo when I first mentioned it, and shamelessly restored it later.

If you were concerned about people not copying the logo you claim to have created you should not have kept the Indian national flag as your logo. I am as much of an Indian as you and the Indian flag is as dear to me as it is to you.
The Indian national flag is not the logo. The logo uses the flag as one of its design elements. The color, font, words, and the location and shape of the flag are all distinctive elements of the logo that were created by me.

Let me remind you of what someone called Rashmun said a while ago:

This would have been a valid criticism if the logo would have been designed by Charvaka. Except that it is not. The logo being used on the such.forumotion.com and http://sulekha.forumotion.com boards is taken from the chaikaapi forum.

https://such.forumotion.com/t2740-a-warning#23710

Now you do know that chaikaapi is my forum and the logo was designed by me. So you changed your tune. No surprises there.

After discussing this issue with a member of http://sulekha.forumotion.com i have changed my view on this issue. The person with whom i discussed this issue convinced me that it is not possible to claim copyright over the Indian national flag and that you should have shown some originality and come up with your own original logo instead of making the Indian national flag as your logo.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:25 pm

Rashmun wrote:The person with whom i discussed this issue convinced me
Sounds like you are in touch with "self." Good for you.

Rashmun wrote:that it is not possible to claim copyright over the Indian national flag and that you should have shown some originality and come up with your own original logo instead of making the Indian national flag as your logo.
The fact is, you are imitating the exact look and feel of this forum, down to the lettering and font of Coffeehouse, and the stylized Indian flag (not the original flag). It is possible to claim copyright over the image that I created, with the name, font, lettering and color in it.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:28 pm

Rashmun wrote:
seven wrote:rashmun -like you understand qb doesnt want to post in this forum and not ask her to join, you should also quit asking people to post on sulekha.forumotion. if they want to post, they will.

add the site address in ur signature or something so anyone interested can find it easily.

thanks but if there is an interesting thread on http://sulekha.forumotion.com i intend to post it here.

ok. who can stop you.

but think about this. if that interesting thread has other people contributing to it and not just you. posting alone. then post it here. bcz otherwose u can simply post that interesting topic here for everyone to read n reply.

imagine having to create a new id ( even if it takes 2 min to do so) just to respond to you. it will be easy to respond here. dont u think?

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:30 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The person with whom i discussed this issue convinced me
Sounds like you are in touch with "self." Good for you.

Please go ahead and ask QB whether or not i discussed this issue with her.

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Rashmun wrote:that it is not possible to claim copyright over the Indian national flag and that you should have shown some originality and come up with your own original logo instead of making the Indian national flag as your logo.
The fact is, you are imitating the exact look and feel of this forum, down to the lettering and font of Coffeehouse, and the stylized Indian flag (not the original flag). It is possible to claim copyright over the image that I created, with the name, font, lettering and color in it.

Since you have kept the Indian national flag as part of your logo, you are not permitted to copyright it. You should have shown some originality and refrained from keeping the Indian national flag as your logo. Furthermore, the 'skin' of the forum on https://such.forumotion.com and on http://sulekha.forumotion.com is one of several options available. I liked this particular 'skin' and so opted for it. I don't see why you should get upset by my doing so.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:44 pm

Rashmun wrote:Since you have kept the Indian national flag as part of your logo, you are not permitted to copyright it.
You and QB can't make up copyright law. The logos of Air France, US Airways, Korean Air, etc. all contain stylized versions of their respective national flags, and they are all copyrighted.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:46 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Since you have kept the Indian national flag as part of your logo, you are not permitted to copyright it.
You and QB can't make up copyright law. The logos of Air France, US Airways, Korean Air, etc. all contain stylized versions of their respective national flags, and they are all copyrighted.

Laws are different from country to country. For instance it is legally permitted to burn the U.S. national flag but it is illegal to burn the Indian national flag. Also, it is legally not permitted to copyright even a stylized version of the Indian national flag.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:50 pm

Rashmun wrote:Also, it is legally not permitted to copyright even a stylized version of the Indian national flag.
Any proof or did you just make that up?
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:52 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Also, it is legally not permitted to copyright even a stylized version of the Indian national flag.
Any proof or did you just make that up?

first, do you agree that it is illegal to burn the Indian national flag, while it is legal to burn the U.S. national flag?

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:59 pm

Rashmun wrote:
panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Also, it is legally not permitted to copyright even a stylized version of the Indian national flag.
Any proof or did you just make that up?

first, do you agree that it is illegal to burn the Indian national flag, while it is legal to burn the U.S. national flag?
irrelevant!
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Section 3 of the Flag Code of India

Section 3: Notwithstanding anything contained in any law for the time
being in force, no person shall, except in such cases and under such
conditions as may be prescribed by the Central Government, use, or
continue to use, for the purpose of any trade, business, calling or
profession, or in the title of any patent, or in any trade mark of
design
, any name or emblem specified in the Schedule or any colourable
imitation thereof
without the previous permission of the Central
Government or of such officer of Government as may be authorised in this
behalf by the Central Government.





NOTE: The Indian National Flag has been specified as an emblem in the Schedule to the Act.




the Prevention of Insults to National Honour Act, 1971** and any
other law enacted on the subject. Keeping in view the provisions of the
aforementioned Acts -



(i) the Flag shall not be used for commercial purposes in violation
of the Emblem and Names (Prevention of Improper Use) Act, 1950;





(ii) the Flag shall not be dipped in salute to any person or thing;

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Rashmun wrote:Section 3 of the Flag Code of India

Section 3: Notwithstanding anything contained in any law for the time
being in force, no person shall, except in such cases and under such
conditions as may be prescribed by the Central Government, use, or
continue to use, for the purpose of any trade, business, calling or
profession, or in the title of any patent, or in any trade mark of
design
, any name or emblem specified in the Schedule or any colourable
imitation thereof
without the previous permission of the Central
Government or of such officer of Government as may be authorised in this
behalf by the Central Government.





NOTE: The Indian National Flag has been specified as an emblem in the Schedule to the Act.




the Prevention of Insults to National Honour Act, 1971** and any
other law enacted on the subject. Keeping in view the provisions of the
aforementioned Acts -



(i) the Flag shall not be used for commercial purposes in violation
of the Emblem and Names (Prevention of Improper Use) Act, 1950;





(ii) the Flag shall not be dipped in salute to any person or thing;

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Flag_Code_of_India
This website is not operated in India. It is not subject to Indian law.
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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:18 pm

Rashmun wrote:You should have shown some originality
Hahaha. Says the guy who mimicked the look of this forum exactly in order to lure people from here.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:21 pm

not a peep about jaspal bhatti on this thread so far. shameful. Mad

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:23 pm

panini press wrote:
Rashmun wrote:You should have shown some originality
Hahaha. Says the guy who mimicked the look of this forum exactly in order to lure people from here.

i am not the one who is whining and complaining about this. you should have shown some originality if you wanted to copyright the logo of this forum.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:25 pm

Natalia Romanova wrote:not a peep about jaspal bhatti on this thread so far. shameful. Mad
Good point. My best memory of Jaspal Bhatti was from his Flop Show. He had an opening segment where Bhatti is sitting in a vehicle with his wife. He says to her, "it has been a long-time dream for me to take my wife out on a sarkari gaDDi and that is realized today so I am so happy, etc. etc." and the camera zooms out to show that they are on a road-roller.
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